Closing statements, please read PL forumers.

[Griffinfan]

Hello,

I have thought this out over the last few weeks as I see it becoming a huge problem. I am leaving forums because of these issues and I wanted to put them out there as constructively as possible.


I am not going to point fingers, I am not going to play the blame game, I just want you to read this then move on.





Lately I have noticed a rise in the trollish behavior towards new and old players, I am noticing a click in the forums, If you aren't in this click you aren't appreciated and sometimes you are flamed in almost everything you post.

It is disturbing that even some of the old players I used to have respect for have adapted this attitude towards newer players on the forums and those that don't act like adults sometimes because they (in RL) are still kids, is that any reason to be rude to them?


This is not the community I joined, nor is it one I want to see a month from now, I am truly disappointed in some of you, and I am asking you observe yourselves and ask the question "Was that post/thread really necessary to post? did I hurt someones feelings with that?"

I think sometimes we forget we are talking to actual people with actual feelings, and yes we could possibly be hurting them. I have felt that the community spirit has left the forums and its a drag to see what new argument has dispersed on what thread.

This is not a condemning letter, this is a plea. I joined these forums because you guys were awesome and it was fun to engage. That welcome has disappeared and I want it back.




Here is my Challenge: Be kinder, respect others and be constructive. If someone is annoying you then let them win, and forget the ego's. In the end nobody will care who had a better rep bar.


Until then, This is Griff signing off for the last time.

If you can't post anything constructive about this, then please (out of respect) don't post on the thread.

Thanks for reading.

[tHelonestud]

Lately I have noticed a rise in the trollish behavior towards new and old players, I am noticing a click in the forums, If you aren't in this click you aren't appreciated and sometimes you are flamed in almost everything you post.

clique*

[Bootdaddy]

clique*

he said don't post if it isn't constructive

[tHelonestud]

he said don't post if it isn't constructive

I'm pretty sure that strengthening someone's spelling habits is pretty constructive

[Griffinfan]

I'm pretty sure that strengthening someone's spelling habits is pretty constructive

Please re-read the letter, I am afraid you missed the objective.

[CrimsonTider]

clique*

Prime example of what Griff is talking about. This sudden rise in grammar correction is one of the MAJOR issues. It started, like Griff said, with some of the more well known forumers (usually as a joke between friends), and others take and run with it. Others, just think they are smarter than everyone else and will correct people at all costs.

And David, to say I am disappointed in the way you approach certain things (like this thread), well... disappointed isn't a strong enough word. I remember a different Chris, David, and others, when I joined the forums; not the turds I see on a daily basis now. If this current streak of brashness is truly you, then add me to the list of being completely fooled. Same with Otu before his exile and others whom I feel will soon follow.

@Griff - I could not have said it better myself. I know there are "veterans" who read the forums and never post and it is probably due to the exact issues you described. Only reason I have not walked away yet is I feel some of us need to stick around to attempt to continue the "true" forum tradition. Sadly, I think it is time I realize I cannot compete with these childish egos. (And yes, some of those belong to adults.) Actually, it's more of a matter I'm not going to deal with them.

Lists being made, posts being earmarked.

[Multibird]

totally

[Caiahar]

I'm pretty sure that strengthening someone's spelling habits is pretty constructive

Please re-read the letter, I am afraid you missed the objective.

Yes.

[KingFu]

Can I have your stuff btw?

[KingFu]

So, yes?

[Griffinfan]

So, yes?

If you don't have anything constructive to add, leave this thread.

[KingFu]

If you don't have anything constructive to add, leave this thread.

Constructive: Serving a useful purpose; tending to build up.

Purpose is me getting free items.

So, yes?

[Griffinfan]

Constructive: Serving a useful purpose; tending to build up.

Purpose is me getting free items.

So, yes?

I am leaving forums, not the game.

Please re-read the letter, you missed the objective.

[KingFu]

I am leaving forums, not the game.

Please re-read the letter, you missed the objective.

Den y u still hear?

[Bootdaddy]

If you don't have anything constructive to add, leave this thread.

Him and his friend gonna troll it till they get there point across

[tHelonestud]

Him and his friend gonna troll it till they get there point across

their*

I still am not sure how making the forums more readable is trolling
I am here to help

[Delphina]

I'm sorry to see you go.

[Zeus]

The truth of the matter is this:

Until developers take a firm stance against all trolls AS WELL AS those who cause the trolling to initiate (by irking people, spamming the forums, etc), it will not cease.

Those of you know who I am talking about know how you are and also know that I have personally tried. There is only so much you can do.



In short, nice speech, but wrong environment. The people you are talking to are bored players. If you don't believe me, take a look at the AL section. It is much more constructive than the PL side.

I hope you decide to stick around.

Cheers,

~Apollo



This stems from boredom. The forums is already in the troll mentality (I get caught in it as well at times, not going to lie.)

[Griffinfan]

The truth of the matter is this:

Until developers take a firm stance against all trolls AS WELL AS those who cause the trolling to initiate (by irking people, spamming the forums, etc), it will not cease.

Those of you know who I am talking about know how you are and also know that I have personally tried. There is only so much you can do.



In short, nice speech, but wrong environment. The people you are talking to are bored players. If you don't believe me, take a look at the AL section. It is much more constructive than the PL side.


Cheers,

I hope you decide to stick around.

Clear some PM space

[KingFu]

Clear some PM space

Oh! Oh! Is it about me?