Question for the end-game PvPers

[Azepeiete]

In AVERAGE gear and top skill level consider this-

Rogues have the best chances 1v1.

Mages dominate in groups of 2 or more.

Warriors dominate in groups of 2 or more.

As of now, if you aren't in a guild that constantly does endgame pvp, then a rogue is your best choice.

TOP GEAR-keep in mind at endgame, you can farm elites for your cash.

Warriors with mythic armor and helm are beasts, in groups of 2 or more, extremely hard to beat if your team isnt completely groupd

Mages with all mythic armor and gun-unstoppable for rogues once that shield is up.

Rogues aren't really as strong in top gear, only really in 1v1s.

[Spects]

imo there will be less myth gears at 31pvp if the cap will be raised.
-devs mentioned that they will "turn over" myth armors to coup with 36cap.
now idk if its a players choice to "turn over" or if its automaticaly turn over.

but even so, in my guild we have only a handfull of rogues who have myth gears and still doing great with just bonechill.
it is players skill over others that can set the tides upside down.

agree with Cero.
Why would you want to beat up noobs(twinking) anyways if you had an arcane hammer?
The best competition is and will always be at endgame .
And I don't mind twinks at all, just a little bit tired of their antics.

[iluvataris]

Sorry if I'm coming off kinda strong this is my first Convo in a twinks thread and as stated above ^^^^^

you say you get owned by stat differences... I think you are just used to twink levels, and need a few hundred deaths to learn end game pvp. Don't be afraid to mess up that k/d ratio. Hanna happen at end unless you just don't pvp. Remember the only way to build your skill level is play against players who are better then you. Learn from mistakes..
this ties along with leaving games, if you leave games when your up against good players you wont get any better. There are ALOT of amazing players at end game.
edit: im sorry thought original post said you get owned at end game, not i get owned end game cause of stat differences, took it as you tride it.

[iluvataris]

He did ask end gamers... didn't say anything else for you to threaten him or is it you know end game pvp because you have friends there?

[iluvataris]

I have friends that endgame maybe you should keep those words to yourself

Sry so many posts meant to put quote in last one.

[Spects]

In AVERAGE gear and top skill level consider this-

Rogues have the best chances 1v1.

Mages dominate in groups of 2 or more.

Warriors dominate in groups of 2 or more.

As of now, if you aren't in a guild that constantly does endgame pvp, then a rogue is your best choice.

TOP GEAR-keep in mind at endgame, you can farm elites for your cash.

Warriors with mythic armor and helm are beasts, in groups of 2 or more, extremely hard to beat if your team isnt completely groupd

Mages with all mythic armor and gun-unstoppable for rogues once that shield is up.

Rogues aren't really as strong in top gear, only really in 1v1s.

+1
nice summary

[Bless]

He did ask end gamers... didn't say anything else for you to threaten him or is it you know end game pvp because you have friends there?

"keep your words to yourself" idk how it can be viewed as a threat :/

Anyways my apologies if i became a bit too hot headed.

[Cero]

"keep your words to yourself" idk how it can be viewed as a threat :/

Anyways my apologies if i became a bit too hot headed.

it is because many people grow hatred towards twinks , prolly cos during 21pvp many twinks brag about their kill strikes and kdr.

[Infrico]

I dispise twinks.. maybe its there k/d ratio. Maybe its all these silly guild vs guild Threads, Which end in lies, argueing and bickering. (Somtimes very entertaining i might add) Maybe its all the claims of being the best, or could be most ban together to fight new players who are just learning there charicters, may never know...

This is true up to a certain extent, up to level 16 rather, from level 16(inclusive)+, almost everyone you matchmake with are twinks/decently geared people, which I am sure is 100% the case in end-game atm, therefore farming noobs is not apparent. I found it funny how as soon as the 31 cap released, some end-gamers were already insulting level 26 twinks...its like, wtf you just came out of that level range!??, lol. Your point about guild wars actually proves how twinks have pushed the concept of guilds in AL even more with the use of 5v5 tournaments etc, although flaming will of course occur, my other threads being good evidence of that, but that is bound to happen.

[Bless]

"keep your words to yourself" idk how it can be viewed as a threat :/

Anyways my apologies if i became a bit too hot headed.

it is because many people grow hatred towards twinks , prolly cos during 21pvp many twinks brag about their kill strikes and kdr.

Well they should shut the hell up as its not all twinks bragging and killing noobs. Its really pissing me off and the forums is just their excuse to post bs on when theyre drunk and feeling like a hater.

Sorry i quoted you but atleast you didnt say anything disrespectful
Sorry i ruined the thread twinkleton.

@illuvatris

1. Lots of twinks go lookin for noobs to kill but they dont find any wearing greens, most atleast have bonechill gear. If they are still learning game characterstics then its not a smart idea to enter pvp. Ya know why people like me kill noobs? Because they attack us first, say if im on my way to a spawn room for 1v1 but a newb attacks me, im not gonna let them kill me.

2. Kdr isnt really considered important in my bracket. I have 22k kills 75% come from twinks and 6k deaths 75% come from twinks.....whilst an unnamed person who went around only seeking noobs had 17k kills and 1k deaths before he quit. Anyways what it to endgamers if people wanna kill farm noobs and get a good kdr! It doesnt affect yall so quit mentioning kdr.

3. Dont mention guild vs guilds threads because there were 0 threads about the L16 bracket.

Ffs stop degrading twinks, if u really hate twinks you dont need to post it on forums keep it ingame. If you wanna do something about that hate then 1v1 me.

[iluvataris]

Ill see you when you decide to try end game pvp,
My view on twinks wont change until there is some way to seperate the two.
IMO there are twinks taking up leaderboard positions from end game players who deserve it more. As it takes longer to get mass amounts of kills at endgame.

[Bless]

Ill see you when you decide to try end game pvp,
My view on twinks wont change until there is some way to seperate the two.
IMO there are twinks taking up leaderboard positions from end game players who deserve it more. As it takes longer to get mass amounts of kills at endgame.

ya know theres an old saying that goes: If ya cant beat em, join em. Smart players are doing this. Its not all of us anyways.

[Darko]

I agree with illuvataris...me and another rogue from my guild made twinks to see what all the hoopla was about. ..he was 212-0 , I was 178-2. In 3 matches ..its an easy way to get kills, show your dominance and take up undeserved lb spots...i saw a rogue yesterday with 55000/600 kdr... that doesn't happen in end game, period....

As far as gear, its skill...I has d good numbers before arcane and After. ...theres some warriors that still are ehhh, with arcane. ...we had guild warn against a team that both warriors were full mythic, 1 had arcane... both their rogues were full mythic. Their mage was mythic...our two warriors were regular gear, plus 1 arcane, our mage was mythic gun and helm, our two rogues, one full mythic, one bonechill, and we destroyed that other team evebthough they had better gear overall. ..

[Spects]

Illuvataris has a point. It`s kinda unfair that some twinks climb up the leaderboard effortlessly and wrap up banners as opposed to endgamers who work their butt off.
Some people already suggested the idea of separated leaderboards (twink, non-twink). My idea: CTF-Kill banner for endgamers and Most efficient killfarmer banner for twinks as reward.
And get off your 'everybody hating twinks' crackpipe, Miraclebird. Nobody hates twinks, we hate your antics (bragging,degrading others, demanding PvP-balance updates in your favor)
You made a factless claim and people called you out, period.
Seriously Illuvataris would shred you apart if you finally decide to move up.

[Darko]

Illuvataris has a point. It`s kinda unfair that some twinks climb up the leaderboard effortlessly and wrap up banners as opposed to endgamers who work their butt off.
Some people already suggested the idea of separated leaderboards (twink, non-twink). My idea: CTF-Kill banner for endgamers and Most efficient killfarmer banner for twinks as reward.
And get off your 'everybody hating twinks' crackpipe, Miraclebird. Nobody hates twinks, we hate your antics (bragging,degrading others, demanding PvP-balance updates in your favor)
You made a factless claim and people called you out, period.
Seriously Illuvataris would shred you apart if you finally decide to move up.

Second this! !! Twinks are ruining hauntlet runs too for time.....two leaderboards would be awesome

[iluvataris]

Ran outs thanks, but will thank both of you when I can : )

[Azepeiete]

Second this! !! Twinks are ruining hauntlet runs too for time.....two leaderboards would be awesome

Made a new character to run rec boards for hauntlet and watchers tomb, as did,a few endgame friends...let's see how they compare once the time runners from elites get geared.

[Bless]

I agree with illuvataris...me and another rogue from my guild made twinks

ign?

[iluvataris]

You need names? They got those kills in a couple games.

[Darko]

ign?

Do I need to log onto my alt??? Just look at a dew like bossbeats no tank would have that kd ratio in end game.....especially a flagger....