Logic exists, but not with forgotten weapons.

How can birds win mages now?
How can bears win mages now?
How can mages lose to any of them?

Fact: IF, you know how to use a Mage, mana shield timing, kiting etc, you won't lose. Unless birds get lucky and dodge all hits. Bears can only nuke kills now.

Question: How do we(Bears and Bird) win mages.
Enlighten me.

*30-35* PvP. This is a PvP question to pros ^.^