Level problems in PVP

**Valkiryas** · 03-09-2013, 10:56 PM

After the update (the last) I've seen very abrupt changes in the level of acceptance of PVP, well here I have some screen shots:

sorry for the size of the image, Please STS Fix this fast.

**Delphina** · 03-09-2013, 11:01 PM

With PVP there is a +/- 2 levels from the first person who joins. So in this case if I level 23 started the match anyone from level 21-25 can join.

**Valkiryas** · 03-09-2013, 11:09 PM

That's what I say I started in the first image and then all joined, first joined a level 23 and then only at high levels.

**xcainnblecterx** · 03-09-2013, 11:09 PM

At least its not pl were your a lvl50 pvper joining a 51 game with 56 glyph. This is still in a way more fair

**gundamsone** · 03-10-2013, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by xcainnblecterx

At least its not pl were your a lvl50 pvper joining a 51 game with 56 glyph. This is still in a way more fair

A l50 could join a l55 game with l60 in it it's up to 10 lvls dif whereas al is 4.
If STS lowers the gap too much there will be less games active and running which means longer wait times in spawn rooms.

**xcainnblecterx** · 03-10-2013, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by gundamsone

A l50 could join a l55 game with l60 in it it's up to 10 lvls dif whereas al is 4.
If STS lowers the gap too much there will be less games active and running which means longer wait times in spawn rooms.

Yes this to luckily i havent hit this one. Usually just host my own, get owned by 51s enough dont.need a 60 lol
I think this lvl gap is fine imo. Other people goin be yelling bout low lvls on their team, but they'll have to make do

**really** · 03-11-2013, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by Delphina

With PVP there is a +/- 2 levels from the first person who joins. So in this case if I level 23 started the match anyone from level 21-25 can join.

Straight brackets would get rid of a lot of ills. Too many are having their guild member use a lower alt to start and then they join. Original member switches higher and they proceed to make heroes of themselves by spawnkilling in gangs. Brackets with set ceilings would cut that way down. I run my 6 and end up in games with 8-10. I switch to 12 and end up in a game with 16s. I go to 16 and end up with 19s. Getting old.

**Syylent** · 03-11-2013, 08:54 AM

Had my 21 in pvp last night. I got to fight against a couple lvl 26s.

It was quite interesting.

I am not sure how the math could go that a lvl 21 could be paired with a 26.

Wish I woulda got some screenies. Not that would have the fainest clue how.

Too many fights with lvl 25s all calling my lvl 21 a noob. There are some characters here.

**Infrico** · 03-11-2013, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Delphina

With PVP there is a +/- 2 levels from the first person who joins. So in this case if I level 23 started the match anyone from level 21-25 can join.

Do you not see anything wrong in that? Lol, one elite cap level matchmaking with lower level elite cap.

Do it + or - 1 level and all our problems are sorted.

**Valkiryas** · 03-11-2013, 09:47 PM

Wrong few minutes ago I started the game and all good according to these rules, but everything changed when he joined suddenly a level 25 mage is this balance of levels is very, very bad.

**really** · 03-12-2013, 05:24 PM

I joined 2 games since today's update. One on my 12 - there were 15s and a 16 down to 10. One on my 6 where a level 12 was rampaging.we had from 4-12 in the game. This isn't that difficult. Set static caps. 1-6 7-11 12-16 however you want, but we really need set caps in my opinion.

**Zyntia** · 03-13-2013, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Infrico

Do you not see anything wrong in that? Lol, one elite cap level matchmaking with lower level elite cap.

Do it + or - 1 level and all our problems are sorted.

I agree with Infrico. This is the best way.

**Prolikethis** · 03-13-2013, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Delphina

With PVP there is a +/- 2 levels from the first person who joins. So in this case if I level 23 started the match anyone from level 21-25 can join.

Figured it had to be + - 2 or 3 from creator ty for clarifying and like someone else mentioned,
Within 2 levels is a lot better then pl's 5.

The pics in the op look very normal to me, unfortunately these pics i took last night are normal and shouldn't be.

Notice the 7 level diff?

when multiple games end and multiple players continue instead of exiting them this happens.

Somehow some players get merged with players of higher/ lower lvls from other games.
He'll if i know why i just see it happen everyday in pvp. I can tell u it started like 100ish updates ago in PL. like around the 66cap if that helps you Dev's any :P

We asked him to leave nicely for a while and explained to him he was twice our lvl. he was getting fast ez kills at will & he knew was fighting low levels. i put up with a few games of this crap before saying, /g mythic here...
kinda funny watching 5 lvl 6's destroy this bully into leaving game. Im just glad he stayed for a few dozen deaths, he deserved every one of em an more imo.

Back to the glitch. Noted the highest level we could bring to the fight was level 6's.
trust,. we tried to bring 7,8,9,10,11,12 and didn't meet level requirements
So it obvious a lvl 4 made this game this 12 entered and obvious this is a bad glitch.

This has been going on in sts pvp games months before AL release
& This is the real 'level problem in pvp' this glitch needs to be fixed

2 levels of creator...That is not a problem at all and im shocked some of our community think it is.

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**Valkiryas** · 03-14-2013, 04:05 PM

Maybe in next update

**Samhayne** · 03-14-2013, 04:36 PM

The team is aware of the issue. Thanks for your patience while it is worked on.

**Prolikethis** · 03-15-2013, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Samhayne

The team is aware of the issue. Thanks for your patience while it is worked on.

Thx for responding so fast Sam! my patience is gold with sts!

honestly i know its a bad glitch but it doesnt effect me and guild Such a bad way. Once in a blue moon one side gets all the crazy high lvls and my team gets correct lvl bracket but very rare!

Normally its one sometimes two super high lvl's that get in when it happens. And Game On!
my guild, my friends, guild friends, we love to come fill these game up to kill and watch these types of players that don't care about class or respect take there deaths.

It's a glitch and yes i see its a huge problem Especially for new players or players that like to run solo.

My guild and allies dont like fighting players twice our lvl but like everything else in mmo and in rl we adapt and deal with it. Plus It's actually Gratifying killing these guys right off the map.

I wish you guys luck with this one. It's a tough one i can tell but i have a good feeling and
I know Sam, Justg and the rest of your elite team will figure this one out.
Ill stop posting about this glitch until or unless a dev has any questions on the matter.

However,
There is another glitch where i can go outside the walls and run around the outside pvp maps or straight out to all black never land.

I haven't gone as far as hitting the yellow floor like back in PL's original swamp maps but needless to say wow u guys have tons of space on these maps Oo!

I want see this and not jus read about it. seeing is believing to most. ihave tons of pics but here's a few so you get the idea of what i talking about.

Before

After

Freedom :P

Bye the way, its not just a rouge thing. My Warrior can run out there and get front row seats to the epic 1v1 battles or even just for a brb ect.

I have a few more glitches w pics but um
Come to think of it isn't this pvp section???? Hmmm ill copy paste and move soon as i get of work tonight!

my bad guys on rambling on glitches!

Ill edit this out and put in other section