Should I put points in STR?

**MightyMicah** · 04-30-2013, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by Deathofan

Didn't you make a voodoo bird and said you had fun using it? There's nothing wrong with it, just saying, few people can use another spect, study it, and master it and that truly is an achievement.

This is true. However, bear in mind that my voodoo was level 35. Before forgotten, this meant that warbird was the only "successful" build during that time. Pure dex and int hadn't been done before. After forgotten, pure dex means forgotten bow. That's something I won't stoop to.

Also, I wasn't necessarily dissing warbirds. Thank Xazic for that. Warbirds are amazing and I kind of wish I had one from time to time. However, it's annoying when every single bird I see is a warbird, and the random one-in-a-thousand dex bird I see usually completely sucks. I just wish more people would play it the way it was meant to be played like back at sewer cap.

Overall it's just a game. Do whatever is fun and makes you successful.

**Zeus** · 04-30-2013, 08:50 AM

I don't get this thread.

You ask which is more viable & then when given advice, you do your own thing. If you already have your mind made up then what was the purpose of this thread?

**Caiahar** · 04-30-2013, 08:52 AM

Um Apollo.....im going pure dex.....and I left this thread quite a while ago...I already decided im going pure dex....

**Suentous PO** · 04-30-2013, 08:53 AM

I was surprised to see the crit on a bird w/crafted 75 int set was higher than dex set (63 vs 55) but that's at the cost of loosing out on ALL other stats.
Yeah pure dex is best, but I'm keeping a warbird for pve. In games without a tank (which I love!) I'm in front gaining agro and setting up massive nature strikes ( ooh no non-traditional how evil.) 40 dodge vs 18, more health, armor, and comparable damage = farm machine.

**tHelonestud** · 04-30-2013, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Shadowstar

Um Apollo.....im going pure dex.....and I left this thread quite a while ago...I already decided im going pure dex....

Do not use that tone of voice at Sir Parth

**Caiahar** · 04-30-2013, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Suentous PO:1074474

I was surprised to see the crit on a bird w/crafted 75 int set was higher than dex set (63 vs 55) but that's at the cost of loosing out on ALL other stats.
Yeah pure dex is best, but I'm keeping a warbird for pve. In games without a tank (which I love!) I'm in front gaining agro and setting up massive nature strikes ( ooh no non-traditional how evil.) 40 dodge vs 18, more health, armor, and comparable damage = farm machine.

Kewl! I might make a warbird pve only

**Zeus** · 04-30-2013, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Shadowstar

Um Apollo.....im going pure dex.....and I left this thread quite a while ago...I already decided im going pure dex....

Good, you're learning to take advice.

**Caiahar** · 04-30-2013, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Apollo:1074478

Originally Posted by Shadowstar

Um Apollo.....im going pure dex.....and I left this thread quite a while ago...I already decided im going pure dex....

Good, you're learning to take advice.

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@thelonestud: Sir......Parth?

**Zeus** · 04-30-2013, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Shadowstar

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@thelonestud: Sir......Parth?

It's better than the other cringing titles you've decided to bestow.

**Caiahar** · 04-30-2013, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Apollo:1074484

Originally Posted by Shadowstar

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@thelonestud: Sir......Parth?

It's better than the other cringing titles you've decided to bestow.

Like Great p- nevermind that.
Ill probably treat lots of forumers the same, normally, unless someone helps me, I will give a name of honor to them

Stupid I know...

**CrimsonTider** · 04-30-2013, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Suentous PO

I was surprised to see the crit on a bird w/crafted 75 int set was higher than dex set (63 vs 55) but that's at the cost of loosing out on ALL other stats.
Yeah pure dex is best, but I'm keeping a warbird for pve. In games without a tank (which I love!) I'm in front gaining agro and setting up massive nature strikes ( ooh no non-traditional how evil.) 40 dodge vs 18, more health, armor, and comparable damage = farm machine.

Everyone knows I love to tank. Pure dex bird, bear, mage... I love the challenge of spamming pots and keeping things moving. My favorite non-traditional "tank" is (dumdumduuuuum) pure int STAFF mage. I love to circle up the mobs, releasing nightmare/weakness along the way, and once they are circled, freeze, lightening, (hopefully roots are laid down by now), and fire blast away.

**Suentous PO** · 04-30-2013, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by CrimsonTider

Everyone knows I love to tank. Pure dex bird, bear, mage... I love the challenge of spamming pots and keeping things moving. My favorite non-traditional "tank" is (dumdumduuuuum) pure int STAFF mage. I love to circle up the mobs, releasing nightmare/weakness along the way, and once they are circled, freeze, lightening, (hopefully roots are laid down by now), and fire blast away.

Haven't tried anything like that in a while, think I'll respec and give that a try

**tHelonestud** · 04-30-2013, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Shadowstar

Stupid I know...

Acknowledgement is the first step toward fixing it

**MightyMicah** · 04-30-2013, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by CrimsonTider

Everyone knows I love to tank. Pure dex bird, bear, mage... I love the challenge of spamming pots and keeping things moving. My favorite non-traditional "tank" is (dumdumduuuuum) pure int STAFF mage. I love to circle up the mobs, releasing nightmare/weakness along the way, and once they are circled, freeze, lightening, (hopefully roots are laid down by now), and fire blast away.

A perfect example of how you don't need a strength respec in order to tank. Thank you, Crim.

**Deathofan** · 04-30-2013, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by dudetus

I can play any spec with my bird and I have actually done it. I will be Intbird at the very moment it becomes viable compared to pure dex. In this case a cap without talon + wing combo. Intbirds are basically talon birds and during this cap talonset outmatches wandset in every essential term, damage, crit, skill damage, speed, armor.

Once again, true question is viability. Not if it can be used as it is always possible.

Yeah, i'm aware wand birds are used as a high-armor-8m-auto-range class just like talon, but were only used in levels were the wand was considerably better than the talon set. Some examples would be toyman birds in low lv (pre-forgotten), voodoo pin bird, I think I saw some decent 56 charmin wand birds when drop rate was increased, if I recall correctly phoenix did an angel wand bird and did really well, just like alvin & pkbanana did with goddess set. I know int set is currently messed up at endgame, and talon set is more viable, but let's hope endgame stats are fixed and some people start creating different builds with different spects.

**Suentous PO** · 04-30-2013, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by MightyMicah

A perfect example of how you don't need a strength respec in order to tank. Thank you, Crim.

Personally I make a distinction between gaining aggro and being a real tank. Prob with gaining aggro is that you loose their attention when someone else does more damage, a problem I had in the past as a pure dex behind a nuke.
Not to argue semantics however.