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Thread: Shuyal Gladiator Arena--Unfair Timed Runs

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    Imo the only thing glitch did was remove the 20sec in between each boss.
    The traps.. Well lets say you get the purple thing that doesn't do anything anyways. All you gotta do is stand still... No trap.

    Btw i soloed arena today, no glitch. Just about 6min...

    For the trap and bosses all you need is a lucky combo. Sthal or stahyl or stahyagsl, mardon, glob mother. If you get these without vortex or pumpkins... Well that's easy .-.

    And just for the record, i wanna be a looney >:-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundlesskill View Post
    Imo the only thing glitch did was remove the 20sec in between each boss.
    The traps.. Well lets say you get the purple thing that doesn't do anything anyways. All you gotta do is stand still... No trap.

    Btw i soloed arena today, no glitch. Just about 6min...

    For the trap and bosses all you need is a lucky combo. Sthal or stahyl or stahyagsl, mardon, glob mother. If you get these without vortex or pumpkins... Well that's easy .-.

    And just for the record, i wanna be a looney >:-(
    I've done tons of solo runs the past few days, managed to put a time on board solo, and some with a group. Getting lucky bosses is a pain, just gotta execute when you get them tho. I'd really like to see my times stacked up against others

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    Okay now I'm changing the subject completely, but I wanna try and run with you.
    2 rouges... Just to see how it turns out -_-

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    Can do

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    Tell me when you can...

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    I completely agree with azep and support resetting the arena lb. Why?

    1. If you already done it before, then there shouldn't be a problem doing it again, especially w/ the buffed up arcane pets now.

    2. Having 60 secs (20 secs before each bosses #2-4) fighting the bosses w/o staging effects (eg vortex, pumpkins...) allow the party to have a major advantage. I think we ALL can agree that it is harder to fight and deal damages when the vortex is around. No need for me to explain further.

    I'm surprised that this issue hasn't been addressed much sooner. If the ppl on the arena lb feel that resetting is unfair, I have a suggestion...u should create 2 sets of arena lb...change the current one to "Shuyal Gladiator Arena w/ Glitch/Bug" and "Shuyal Gladiator Arena w/o Glitch/Bug"

    Thank you azepeiete for your integrity and fight for fairness
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    What arcane pets? I don't see any arcane pet around me

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    soundlesskill whats ur ign? add me

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    Lol seems a little like the tomb records back in season one. Originally they had it so the timer did not start until you killed an enemy, and then changed it to start when you first gained the aggro of an enemy. This made it impossible to beat any timed runs. A lot of people were very upset at the time. They finally ended up changing the timers back to how they were for the rest of the season. This gave everyone a fair chance.

    This is a little bit of a different situation as this was more a a glitch that was taken advantage of. If you ban these guys for exploiting this glitch, you would have to ban a lot of people in the game, because I know of a lot of people who took advantage of it. I think the fairest thing to do is to reset the leaderboards, although I do feel bad for those that set the records as they did so with all of the tools at their disposal.

    Not to bring up a whole can of worms, but how about all those people who got their arena achievement with this glitch? What do you do with all of their achievement points? Not like I think sts can do anything about this, but not really fair to all those people who had to hunt for their achievement points without the glitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chitgoks View Post
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    u barely scratch d boss or u wont survive at all without 5/5 mythic.

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    In serious MMOs people intentionally abusing bugs in a game for certain benefits gets banhammerd
    This sounds extreme but enforcing this rule actually works

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    dup.

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    Whatever, I won't compete. Bye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundlesskill View Post
    Tell me when you can...
    I'd like to do it any time today, ill be on often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundamsone View Post
    In serious MMOs people intentionally abusing bugs in a game for certain benefits gets banhammerd
    This sounds extreme but enforcing this rule actually works
    I really don't think banning people would make sense. Literally everyone who knew about the glitch used it, and it's not like they hoarded huge sums of gold from this. The benefits gained could easily be taken away by removing times, so removing good players from the game really would just be too much, and it was NOT the point of this thread.

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    I agree. This issue should get devs attention.
    Thank you for bringing this up and keeping it fair aze

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo View Post
    Bug abusers definitely shouldn't be allowed to benefit. Honestly, IMO, if they were bug abusing to get such timed runs, then like others who have abused bugs/exploits to get on the leaderboards, they should be wiped and given some sort of punishment.
    I agree with Apollo and Aze on this issue if you really want the lb that bad do it legit so you don't have to worry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warriorname View Post
    I really don't think banning people would make sense. Literally everyone who knew about the glitch used it, and it's not like they hoarded huge sums of gold from this. The benefits gained could easily be taken away by removing times, so removing good players from the game really would just be too much, and it was NOT the point of this thread.
    Good players? I don't think people who intentionally abused this bug to pixel hog are good players...unless that's your definition of good, do w/e it takes to get on leaderboards.
    If you do it once or twice w/o knowing that's forgiveable b/c it wasn't intentional, but after you do it a dozen times+ and not report this then I can't really say they should be forgiven.

    If STS is harsher on bug abusers, then players (especially top players) will learn that there will be CONSEQUENCES if they abusing bugs intentionally.
    If you keep letting these people slip by each time, it sets a bad example for everyone else..."hey let's abuse the crap outa this glitch till it's fixed b/c STS won't do a thing to us"
    That kind of logic is wrong if you want to create a competitive and fair game experience for any MMO.

    *o and I didn't mean to say perm ban.
    Let's say 1st offence is 1 day ban, then 7 day, then perm etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gundamsone View Post
    Good players? I don't think people who intentionally abused this bug to pixel hog are good players...unless that's your definition of good, do w/e it takes to get on leaderboards.
    If you do it once or twice w/o knowing that's forgiveable b/c it wasn't intentional, but after you do it a dozen times+ and not report this then I can't really say they should be forgiven.

    If STS is harsher on bug abusers, then players (especially top players) will learn that there will be CONSEQUENCES if they abusing bugs intentionally.
    If you keep letting these people slip by each time, it sets a bad example for everyone else..."hey let's abuse the crap outa this glitch till it's fixed b/c STS won't do a thing to us"
    That kind of logic is wrong if you want to create a competitive and fair game experience for any MMO.

    *o and I didn't mean to say perm ban.
    Let's say 1st offence is 1 day ban, then 7 day, then perm etc.
    I agree some punishment would make sense, so yes, a couple day ban would be ok. But really I was not trying to intentionally attack certain players here. I wanted to point out that the board is full of abused glitches, not allowing serious competitors a fair chance. Thanks for the support(which I think you are doing lol).

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