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    I've been wondering how did you guys (Iluva, Alrisaia, etc) survive when soloing elite?
    I saw on youtube Iluva likes just having 1.9k health and soloing elite in a very short time. I can solo pretty well with my mage but rogue is so tough to play. I remember running brakenbridge once with Alrisaia and he wipe out enemy pretty fast! I can't even FINISH brakenbridge with my well equipped rogue.

    My skills is Aim Shot, Nox Bolt, Trap and Razor Shield.
    I use Bonechill Bow of Potency and Incandescent Blade of Tactics (I have teeth for level 31).
    I usually switch pet between Talon, Mccraw, Horton and I don't remember the deary relative pet that gives 10% dodge.

    So guys, the ultimate question, am I just sucks and how do I overcome my 'suck'iness?

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    The highest damage you take during the run is the 4-5 goblins right before jarl. Target down 1 goblin as fast as possible. After that 1 goblin it gets easier, just have to mash those pots haha. Also using malison IMO slows down the run compaired to talon but might be needed for those 5 goblins. That will give you enough time to take down that 1. IMO jarl is easier to survive then those 5 goblins. Although I feel jarl has had his health or armor buffed because I have better gear then when I made that video. Talking 4/5 mythical instead of just helm. And now barely beat that time.
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    My best time was 1:28 first try after getting mythic armor. A few weeks later I got amulet which added total damage and dps tremendously. I tried a good 20 times my best was 1:36.
    So idk if that time with that gear is possible anymore.

    Also use daggers haha. And idk about trap haven't used it in months
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    Just did solo jarl. Cant even move when attacking bcos right hand tapping space for auto attack, left hand tapping pot and skills. 3 min 44 sec is that sucks or what?

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    no ur stats are gd ,using combos will always help u in combat! the best way for a Rogue is put all points on Dexterity nd for skills ,i use aimed,nox,heal,piercer ... nd till now i dont get why ppl use razor nd trap!! ... useless !!
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    luv and i both spec sv also which i don't see in your list. i have a specific strategy for job clearing that works well for me.

    I'll give more detail later typing this on my phone is annoying :-)

    oh and dmg over dps always in my opinion... so mountains teeth mate... mountains teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroGh View Post
    no ur stats are gd ,using combos will always help u in combat! the best way for a Rogue is put all points on Dexterity nd for skills ,i use aimed,nox,heal,piercer ... nd till now i dont get why ppl use razor nd trap!! ... useless !!
    razor and traps... i will show you.. you will get it.

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    Lol razor is far from useless. Also shadow Vail helps make a faster time, and helps survive if all 5 goblins hit you at the same time. Stack razor and shadow Vail get your critical high time whichever arcane ability right. Should be able to get less then 2:30.
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    Yes everything alrisaia said is spot on.

    And I play on PC. So in a way I have 9 fingers I use instead of 2. That right thumb so lazy he just chills there and watches the others do the work.
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    I think I might ditch trap for shadow veils bcos trap rarely works for me.
    Razor shield is soo usefull for my survivality as it can increase my dodge to 60%.

    And don't convince me to use shadow piercer on elite because I know that skill is mana wh*r* and delivers low dmg.
    I will try to get teeth but I'm nearly hit 31 and my friend already bought one for me (level 31 one).

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    SV+AS+RS+AS+ribbit arcane+ SP
    can kill those 5mobs quickly.
    also i focus mainly on archers.
    they deal high dmg.

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    Don't get SP, it is quite a waste of mana. Use Veil instead of Trap, it might help. I'm thinking of creating and deleting Rogue to find the right build. Going to try different builds and see which one works best.
    Thinking of these:
    1. AS - Nox - RS - SV
    2. AS - Nox - Trap - SV
    3. AS - RS - Trap - SV

    Don't know which one will work best for me....

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    Hmm
    Always full dex main points...
    Full dex passive...
    Try malisonfor solo running (HP), or slag (Mob Control)


    Mountain of brut for the HP boost

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    Best solo build is with a bow, IMO.
    Aim-5
    Nox-4 no radius upgrade
    Pierce-1
    Veil-4 no explode
    Mx dex max int max damage 1 crit passives

    That's what I use for solos and it works extremely well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drearivev View Post
    Don't get SP, it is quite a waste of mana. Use Veil instead of Trap, it might help. I'm thinking of creating and deleting Rogue to find the right build. Going to try different builds and see which one works best.
    Thinking of these:
    1. AS - Nox - RS - SV
    2. AS - Nox - Trap - SV
    3. AS - RS - Trap - SV

    Don't know which one will work best for me....
    dnt say sp is bad. it is for dagger rogue lol and i dagger rogue.
    and u r probably a bow rogue

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    I don't think bow is viable because the overall damage dealt will be only from aim shot and nox.

    @Drearivev, I think the first one is the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajnikanth View Post
    dnt say sp is bad. it is for dagger rogue lol and i dagger rogue.
    and u r probably a bow rogue
    Actually I've used dagger with SP and without for a very long time, mainly back in the ALP days.
    And i really really don't like that delay you get after SP with daggers on your regular attack. also add i have'nt used daggers with SP in months,
    so who knows if sts changed things at all without saying anything. but that delay caused me tons of deaths in pvp and you could tell in pve when your not doing as much damage idk just my opinion, I would rather just spam aimed/nox regular attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iluvataris View Post
    And i really really don't like that delay you get after SP with daggers on your regular attack
    ++; from me on that - the delay costs valuable time - you can't move or do anything from what I remember... just so you could finish the animation of the skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warriorname View Post
    Best solo build is with a bow, IMO.
    Aim-5
    Nox-4 no radius upgrade
    Pierce-1
    Veil-4 no explode
    Mx dex max int max damage 1 crit passives

    That's what I use for solos and it works extremely well.
    I'll be trying this build on the next free respec weekend Aze - I can't wait to run with it.

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