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    How is PvP now? A drastic change? No more one shots or crazy dodge?

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    More 1 shots and birds don't dodge. Rangers are better than birds now. Pallies are unknown to me. Bears kill everything. Int mages can instant kill 3 birds with 1 fire storm.

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    It's a work in progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roberto077 View Post
    More 1 shots and birds don't dodge. Rangers are better than birds now. Pallies are unknown to me. Bears kill everything. Int mages can instant kill 3 birds with 1 fire storm.
    You forgot the rhino living against a 5vs1 ..

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    I am not sure why people continue to say birds are so bad. I may not dodge as much, but it is not that bad. Maybe it is because I learned during Sewer cap when birds had even less dodge than now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    I am not sure why people continue to say birds are so bad. I may not dodge as much, but it is not that bad. Maybe it is because I learned during Sewer cap when birds had even less dodge than now.
    Right, but then most of the fun birds would use xbow and kite not use the custom recurve set and tank everyone with that hella pro 51 crit

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    Quote Originally Posted by razerfingers View Post
    Right, but then most of the fun birds would use xbow and kite not use the custom recurve set and tank everyone with that hella pro 51 crit

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    I actually used Raid Recurve set over Custom because... well, I was broke back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    I actually used Raid Recurve set over Custom because... well, I was broke back then.
    Haha it all still looked good! just sparkle diffrence right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    I actually used Raid Recurve set over Custom because... well, I was broke back then.
    "Broke" back then. Haha Back then that was good money. I couldn't even afford a sewer set back then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMicah View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    I actually used Raid Recurve set over Custom because... well, I was broke back then.
    "Broke" back then. Haha Back then that was good money. I couldn't even afford a sewer set back then...
    Haha yeah, it was like 500k max for a set too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    Haha yeah, it was like 500k max for a set too.
    LOL you're thinking of the lvl 50 sets? haha
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    Haha yeah, it was like 500k max for a set too.
    Nah man, it was like 2m for normal raid and like 4m for custom. .-.

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    I'm pretty sure I had to save up well above 2Mil back then to buy a Custom Set. The other sets were cheaper tho iirc. Most birds used recurves because they had better damage, crit, regen, dps and a blind proc which made it superior for FFA/Ctf (xbow was arguably better in 1v1 scenarios).

    I find it hard to compare the "rebalanced" 76 PvP to the gorious days of Sewer PvP because too much of the game mechanics have changed. Kiting took much more skill and was more useful back then because the range didn't shift depending on wether you moved towards or away from your target and the advantage gained from hiding behind trees/corners wasn't as huge as it is nowadays.

    I think the reduction in dodge and crit was a right move towards balanced PvP (str sets base dodge is still too high tho), but the balance between armor and damage still needs to be adjusted to get closer to what PvP felt like during sewer days.
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    Sorry Gaunab....I didn't PvP during the Sewers. JUST A NOOB! Lol and still am!

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    Well... I say "broke" because back then, I didn't start PvP until about a month before Nuri's came out. I farmed every second I played and literally used ALL of my drops. (Actually, I gave a few bows away.) I never broke 1 mil til Humania... fo rizzle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapoke View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo View Post
    Nah man, it was like 2m for normal raid and like 4m for custom. .-.

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    Omg, ok let me explain for all those people saying saying birds crying they dont have one shots anymore need to gtfo. this isnt how it was in sewers OR ao3, u dont know what gf ur talking about. Birds are by far one of worst classes now. ok and makes a LOT of sense. Rhinos=support tank ,mage = support, bears=tank, birds= DAMAGE foxes = damage. BUT all the classes do more DAMAGE then the DAMAGE class.... strange

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonleybird View Post
    Omg, ok let me explain for all those people saying saying birds crying they dont have one shots anymore need to gtfo. this isnt how it was in sewers OR ao3, u dont know what gf ur talking about. Birds are by far one of worst classes now. ok and makes a LOT of sense. Rhinos=support tank ,mage = support, bears=tank, birds= DAMAGE foxes = damage. BUT all the classes do more DAMAGE then the DAMAGE class.... strange

    Not sure what you are trying to say. Not seeing anyone "crying" on this thread.

    Birds are absolutely not the worse class and are just as viable now as they were before the nerf. Only statements being made is now that dodge has been brought back a little, it is exposingthe birds who were counting on it to just rush in for kills. And yes, it is very similar to how it was in Sewers. Birds had more crit back then, but that made up for the fact they had practically zero dodge. And I hate to break it to you, but birds are still the highest damage output class in the game. Not sure where you got that all classes are stronger now.

    Might want to tone it down a bit when you post as the discussion was pretty productive before this post.
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    I still have fun playing bird, Just more "Luck" factor vs other birds then before re balance. Only problems I encounter was Talon bears.. but yeah enjoy the game, also almost all "Rich" birds went str, not sure why bcus it ain't that OP imo..
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