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    Default Trap or Veil? ^^?

    Which one?
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    Both

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    Both, too

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    Assuming your going for pve definitely both.

    Veil is beneficial to whole team cus increases dodge and dmg as long as they stand in smoke.

    Traps is useful for gathering mobs for mages and aoe bleeding.


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    yeah... neither for pvp

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    I will go for Veil...^^

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    Both for elite maps

    Veil only for arena.

    Veil if you're counting on 1 skill

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    If you don't want to charge pick trap

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    Thanks everyone
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    If you HAD to us pick just one, i'd go with Smoke. Like stated above though, for max PvE efficiency....both.
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    That's totally dependent on the map you're running, the team you're with, the type of pulls, whether you run a bow or dagger, are you running elites or normal, pve kill farming, pet leveling, crate farming, the list could go on and on.

    If you're doing big massive pulls then traps and shadow veil is a good combination. But you should also know that really one of the best parts of trap is net retraction, or the 'pull in effect'. The pull in effect is only a 20% chance, so if you're the only rogue unless you're really lucky you're going to be sacrificing damage output by removing pierce in favor of traps.

    And traps in ctf pvp is actually fun and useful for big clashes if you are okay with sacrificing a damage skill. Two warriors who can barely move to protect their team because they are heavily slowed will always have it's uses.

    It really depends on how you play, you can find a situation for almost every skill in the game for rogues where that skill would be useful - yes even shadow storm shot you can find uses for.
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    Wow thank you for the answers everyone ! In the end between trap and smoke, I chose smoke ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jexetta View Post
    That's totally dependent on the map you're running, the team you're with, the type of pulls, whether you run a bow or dagger, are you running elites or normal, pve kill farming, pet leveling, crate farming, the list could go on and on.

    If you're doing big massive pulls then traps and shadow veil is a good combination. But you should also know that really one of the best parts of trap is net retraction, or the 'pull in effect'. The pull in effect is only a 20% chance, so if you're the only rogue unless you're really lucky you're going to be sacrificing damage output by removing pierce in favor of traps.

    And traps in ctf pvp is actually fun and useful for big clashes if you are okay with sacrificing a damage skill. Two warriors who can barely move to protect their team because they are heavily slowed will always have it's uses.

    It really depends on how you play, you can find a situation for almost every skill in the game for rogues where that skill would be useful - yes even shadow storm shot you can find uses for.
    This is the right answer.personally with only 5plats left to respec, i would opt for veil as it suits my playstyle.
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    Bomb!

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    i tried to solo arena and i fould trap and veil both useless
    peirce+razor+aimed+nox
    for elites i run with trap+aimed+razor+nox

    for me i prefer trap over veil
    i m not fan of having both skills

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhutkeyur View Post
    i tried to solo arena and i fould trap and veil both useless
    peirce+razor+aimed+nox
    for elites i run with trap+aimed+razor+nox

    for me i prefer trap over veil
    i m not fan of having both skills
    For arena my skills preference is slightly difference from above.

    Not sure bout trap as theres nothing there really to trap.u cant trap the boss neither mobs.as the focus is on the boss hence the focus should concert on inflicting massive damage quickly to defeat the boss.arena has small space to move around and dodging boss abilities and other areba challenges like proximity ring makes trap a questionable skills.

    Veil is a great skill to use considering the environment.in fact veil is one of arena challenges which cn be deadly too.the smoke with its dodge and crits buff can helo players to adapt in the small environtment for attacks.

    Razor is a challenge due to its nature of fixing a focus attack for maximum dmg.in reality tht is not working well imo considering how often u hv to dodge the bosses abilites.to move to close in melee range for the spinning blender to work can be a suicide.

    Shadow pierce still relevant for both movement speed and dmg .

    And nox is still the 2nd best arrow attack for bosses no doubt.

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