Skill change in PvP room

[Anarchist]

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I warn all of you that our donkey is tired of being freely mindedly beating and harrassed.

@ Op the 5th skill matter has been widely debated battered and discussed over and over again.

And just like i said in the other threads there are 3 major pillars in AL:

1. PvE balance.
2. Differences between classes
3. Ctf and TDM balance.

Looking better into the pvp balance it emerge that:

War>Mage
Rogue>War
Mage>=Rogue.

Including 5th skill to balance 1vs1 brought this:

War>>Mage.
War>Rogue.
Mage>Rogue.
Even though mage now really have the upper hand agaisnt rogues things weren't meant to be this way infact this balance gives the rogue class Small power in the PvP triangle in a 1vs1 fight More power to the mage class and Too much power to the War class.


(1vs1 pvp wasn't even meant to exist in d first place).

Solution
The best solution is giving a 5-10sec cooldown to any skill that is changed.
This will bring the original balance and still let players who change skill between fights to do it.

U sure This isn't a plot to get me banned? O. O

Where are these names?

[Daddyblu]

I guese a lot of mages and warriors who are.opposing this.and sayin "oh another thread" should actually try using a rogue. And if they have one...its prolly the fully mythic geared one so they dnt have much problem...just make on and ill ask a friend to test the skill switch with u im between the 1v1...lets see how much can u win

LOL.. 100% true

We tried this with one of my guild member who used 5 skills tried 1-1 with Full mythic and arcane pet warrior samael..

we dont lots of experiment if its true lol

He was using a full legendary tarlok or winter set and entobed hammer and slug.

then VS a full mythic with arcane warrior.

Legendary warrior use this skills SMash + Windmil + axe trow + veng + Jug.

Full mythic and arcane used Smash +axe + jug

legendary warrior wins.. using 5 skills fast change.



Only solution is 1!

Your not allowed to change skills inside the pvp room...

if you want to change skills you must go out of the pvp room 1st.

its is very advantage to warrior to change the skills... specially if they are on PC with hot keys.

Warrior is already hard to kill with high HP and healing..

how much more if it used hot keys and 5 skills build lol!

[Madnex]

Mad,

Are you positive that there's going to be a new arcane weapon? The reason why I am asking is that they have not made any announcements for upcoming arcane weapons and by this time, they usually do.

Secondly, the new itemization system that is set in place leads me to believe the new arcane weapon won't come until a month or two into the expansion.

To be honest, it's based mostly on assumptions and deductive thinking. I'm 87.63% sure there will be a new arcane rarity weapon for rogues. I'm also going to correct my earlier post and announce(!) it's going to be an arcane bow.


The reason its announcement is delayed is the new itemization system. There would be no point in announcing everything that's going to come out this early; it's supposed to make us feel the excitement of something new close to when it's released, not just having to wait for already announced gear longer than usual.

[Daddyblu]

To be honest, it's based mostly on assumptions and deductive thinking. I'm 87.63% sure there will be a new arcane rarity weapon for rogues. I'm also going to correct my earlier post and announce(!) it's going to be an arcane bow.


The reason its announcement is delayed is the new itemization system. There would be no point in announcing everything that's going to come out this early; it's supposed to make us feel the excitement of something new close to when it's released, not just having to wait for already announced gear longer than usual.

LOL where did you get the idea of arcane bow???

Geeezzzz.... why would they release arcane weapons again when we dont have any arcane armors or pendant and rings... meow meow

[Endkey]

Guys
Zephyruh is one of the best warriors i have known. I have seen him giving Predator a tough time and if my memory serves right..he was using architect.
Arrypotta has killed me and desperoto 2v1 with not only coz he has kershal but his timings were awesome
Predator has killed all those heavy tanks who have like 7k hp.
All these guys do it fair so pls dnt say that one class is better than the other.

[Emmacheese]

Only solution is 1!

Your not allowed to change skills inside the pvp room...

if you want to change skills you must go out of the pvp room 1st.

its is very advantage to warrior to change the skills... specially if they are on PC with hot keys.

Warrior is already hard to kill with high HP and healing..

how much more if it used hot keys and 5 skills build lol!

Um no the solution is not being able to switch skills in combat, I have 3 different play styles, many mages do, it depends who we are against etc, leaving the pvp room would be just silly.

[Endkey]

For those who say that Aimed shot has 250% dmg on crit, they prolly have never used a mage coz mages also have the same option.
Now u will prolly say that Rogues have high crits. Well mages have shields.
If a kershal mage crits on a lightning against a rogue, the rogues hp will prolly be 30% if the rogue is fully mythic geared with daggs. If the rogue uses aimed shot during the sheild, the mages hp will prolly be 80% again.
Mages have the shields who can save them from those deadly crits of rogues but rogues dont have any shields.

[Daddyblu]

Um no the solution is not being able to switch skills in combat, I have 3 different play styles, many mages do, it depends who we are against etc, leaving the pvp room would be just silly.

Well we all know 5skill build warrior using hotkeys are over power... what do you suggest??

not also that i saw one warrior who used unli skills pet... zzz they should fix this skill pet spam.

[falmear]

For those who say that Aimed shot has 250% dmg on crit, they prolly have never used a mage coz mages also have the same option.
Now u will prolly say that Rogues have high crits. Well mages have shields.
If a kershal mage crits on a lightning against a rogue, the rogues hp will prolly be 30% if the rogue is fully mythic geared with daggs. If the rogue uses aimed shot during the sheild, the mages hp will prolly be 80% again.
Mages have the shields who can save them from those deadly crits of rogues but rogues dont have any shields.

Mages have 30% less armor then rogues, so what do you expect? Just because you can't one shot us with shield this some how makes things balanced? Shield only lasts 15 seconds with a 30 second cool down. So 50% of the time I am running with 30% less armor then a rogue despite having similar health. And a mage withy mythic staff has less health then a rogue. And this doesn't account for the fact that it now only takes a few shots to break our shield before 15 seconds is up. Once a certain amount of damage is absorbed, then our shield will break. Lightning is in no way comparable to aimed shot. I proved this by doing a damage comparison between the two. Aimed shot does more damage then lightning. Seems like rogues aren't happy unless they can one shot mages. And rogues packs are very OP. They will recover 90% of your health. Lifegiver doesn't even recover 50% of my health. So if you get to all of your packs a mage has to do 190% damage on a rogue to kill them. This doesn't even account for the healing over time. Sorry but rogues have all of the advantages with very few disadvantages.

[Instanthumor]

Guys
Zephyruh is one of the best warriors i have known. I have seen him giving Predator a tough time and if my memory serves right..he was using architect.
Arrypotta has killed me and desperoto 2v1 with not only coz he has kershal but his timings were awesome
Predator has killed all those heavy tanks who have like 7k hp.
All these guys do it fair so pls dnt say that one class is better than the other.

I hope you realize that Arry uses 5 skills lmao...

[Endkey]

instant i dnt know that he does 5 skills...i cant take ur word for it..but still 2v1...that guy is a pro

[Striderevil]

Hotkeys is not the issue. As the game progresses and level caps increase there will be far more skill points available. It would make more sense to increase number of skill slots carried like in PL and their other games. Why limit skills at all. This is better so that mobile users have a fair advantage as PC users. Like I said before of the 3 avatars only mages can run more skills effectively due to their mana pools. Even wars run out of mana so having a ton of skills wont change that fact. However mana pools will increase as game advance so maybe devs should think about increasing mana prices as levels increase for skills rather than restricting mage heal ability or just introduce more advanced skills lol.

[Instanthumor]

instant i dnt know that he does 5 skills...i cant take ur word for it..but still 2v1...that guy is a pro

I know for a fact that he uses 5 skills, anyways, I don't think it's hard for a full geared arcane mage to kill 2 rogues, I'm sure Jon can do it too.

[falmear]

I hope you realize that Arry uses 5 skills lmao...

I didn't want to out Arry but I know for a fact he uses 5 skills. Whether or not you need to use 5 skills to kill 2 rogues my guess is you don't. Just 3 attack skills and shield. If anything this is a commentary on the rogues skills. If 2 rogues can't kill 1 mage, I am sorry but maybe something is wrong with how you play.

[Solid]

I didn't want to out Arry but I know for a fact he uses 5 skills. Whether or not you need to use 5 skills to kill 2 rogues my guess is you don't. Just 3 attack skills and shield. If anything this is a commentary on the rogues skills. If 2 rogues can't kill 1 mage, I am sorry but maybe something is wrong with how you play.

Lmfao exactly, 2 sh***** rogues can take a arcane mage in 2v1.

[zephyruh]

Guys
Zephyruh is one of the best warriors i have known. I have seen him giving Predator a tough time and if my memory serves right..he was using architect.
Arrypotta has killed me and desperoto 2v1 with not only coz he has kershal but his timings were awesome
Predator has killed all those heavy tanks who have like 7k hp.
All these guys do it fair so pls dnt say that one class is better than the other.

I hope you realize that Arry uses 5 skills lmao...

I can't get close to predator with arch blade. Unless he doesn't use sam

[zephyruh]

Predator defeats most if not all switchers including me. Obviously we are going to give u guys a hard time. Why do you want to defeat every warrior? Why do you want it to be simple? To be the best vs all classes? I have told predator that I want him to be better than me in 1v1 and he is. Shows that it's not gear and skills used. But the skill and timing of a player.

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Please tell me who these warriors are that you are going against.

[Anarchist]

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Ahahahah your sig is funny! c:

[Sky_is_epicgearz]

I hope you realize that Arry uses 5 skills lmao...

*giggles*

[Sky_is_epicgearz]

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