How much would you pay for Singe?

**overpowermage** · 02-01-2014, 09:24 PM

It price will be higher a little bit bit bit bit than samael,maybe 28-30m.

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**Sheener** · 02-01-2014, 10:42 PM

10 mil. I only have 8 mil lol

**Roberto077** · 02-01-2014, 11:06 PM

I have a lot to sell but my emotions hold me back

I love my veteran gear

**VenomsChaos** · 02-01-2014, 11:32 PM

i ll not pay for sam or new pets because i am not doing pvp... earn 20-30 mil can take 5-10 month without plat, farming almost year and waste on a pet << not for my type gameplay... i do prefer use it on items.. but for your question = if sam worth 25 mil + whim 20 mil <<< i think singe should be 35 mil or more... sam is great pet i read and watch it so much time but singe seems better than sam + since is a new pet... yes 35++ mil ( i ll not giwe more than 3-5 mil )

**SkullRapper64** · 02-02-2014, 12:20 AM

25mil and sell it for 45mil

**Slappityslap** · 02-02-2014, 01:15 AM

After trying it out yesterday in pvp I'd say the stun rate is more like .4% than 40%. Don't know if pet level affects it but it's not 40%. I hope they fix it. On the other hand its arcane radius is really big and the hp boost is nice (about 600hp on my rogue). I need to lvl it first but at first glance I'd say its worth 30-35. Nice pet and bigger than mages.

**Daddyblu** · 02-02-2014, 01:46 AM

10mil higher than Sam price... well its only a bit higher than sam damage... and higher chance of stunning..

but in terms of critical rate wise sam is higher.

**nelson131** · 02-02-2014, 04:02 AM

21-24mil....... I love the crit boost and banish of Sammy..........

**KingMartin** · 02-02-2014, 04:30 AM

I will pay about 20M - yeah, I know, I won't have it before summer but I can wait, Sam serves in Elite well

**Daddyblu** · 02-02-2014, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by KingMartin

I will pay about 20M - yeah, I know, I won't have it before summer but I can wait, Sam serves in Elite well

thats too low lol.... 30-35 will be right

**Armarax** · 02-02-2014, 04:57 AM

I would pay 30 mil

It is very populair so i think it's a fair price

someone offered me one for 1000 mil

**KingMartin** · 02-02-2014, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by Daddyblu

thats too low lol.... 30-35 will be right

You don't understand - I will wait till the price drops to the price I am going to pay

Sam serves well in elite - I really don't have to pay overpriced pet, as cute as it is

**Daddyblu** · 02-02-2014, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by KingMartin

You don't understand - I will wait till the price drops to the price I am going to pay

Sam serves well in elite - I really don't have to pay overpriced pet, as cute as it is

LOL there are two reasons it should be higher in sam's price.

1. Singe is cuter than sam = sam is very ugly lol
2. it has more stats add more STR and damage for warrior.

but for me i rather use Sam :P even if sam very ugly pet lol

**blanksss** · 02-02-2014, 08:10 AM

I would pay between 25m-30m

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**chitgoks** · 02-02-2014, 09:12 AM

visual wise 0. its ugly. stat wise, regardless id pay 5m

**Hoardseeker** · 02-02-2014, 09:44 AM

Id pay 32mil

**Badassthor** · 02-03-2014, 12:05 AM

For warriors I would pay 28-30m , for rogues I would pay 25-28m for mages I would pay 23-25m. Simply because this pet definitely benefits warriors the most amongst all the other classes with that damage reduction and having a 40 str boost. Therefore it is definitely the best pet for warriors. As for rogues samael is comparable as it gives crit which is beneficial for rogues and it's primary stats gives 10 int and 100 health which is similar to the +10int and +10 str happiness bonus. Plus the stun is more reliable for samael as the stun immunity doesn't apply to samael. The poison damage is around 80 I believe, and the burn damage for singe is 33 so that's quite a difference. As for mages I would pay the least as the damage reduction isn't that beneficial for mages due to their lower health and armor. Plus samael definitely is the most beneficial for mages amongst all of the classes and the difference in int is only 5. If samael does almost as good of a job as singe there's no reason why I should pay more. Remember samael has a passive heal and mana regen to all party members in range.

**Kakashis** · 02-03-2014, 01:02 AM

Yep I agree with people here! It looks like Arcane pets even if they are newest and greatest no longer surpass the 40m mark. Not even 30m apparently unless you had the gold to spare. If anything, all Arcane pets should be buffed so that they would all be worth roughly the same. Hammerjaw at 7-8m mark means it's starting to show signs of being outdated! Because these pets cost real money, they should be worth more than whatever can be looted from the elite golden chests but this isn't the case. It's a little too late to change that, so I just recommend normalizing all the Arcane Pets from time to time unless there are plans to stop the older ones from being dropped.

**Morholt** · 02-03-2014, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Slappityslap

After trying it out yesterday in pvp I'd say the stun rate is more like .4% than 40%. Don't know if pet level affects it but it's not 40%. I hope they fix it. On the other hand its arcane radius is really big and the hp boost is nice (about 600hp on my rogue). I need to lvl it first but at first glance I'd say its worth 30-35. Nice pet and bigger than mages.

Probably the same way as Grim is. If I recall correctly, he has a 75% or 80% stun chance. However, that is on hits that he actually lands. The stun is on hit, not attack.
To improve the hit rate, get your pet up to your PvP lvl. A lvl 7 pet won't hit a lvl 36 very often.

**Zeus** · 02-03-2014, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Badassthor

For warriors I would pay 28-30m , for rogues I would pay 25-28m for mages I would pay 23-25m. Simply because this pet definitely benefits warriors the most amongst all the other classes with that damage reduction and having a 40 str boost. Therefore it is definitely the best pet for warriors. As for rogues samael is comparable as it gives crit which is beneficial for rogues and it's primary stats gives 10 int and 100 health which is similar to the +10int and +10 str happiness bonus. Plus the stun is more reliable for samael as the stun immunity doesn't apply to samael. The poison damage is around 80 I believe, and the burn damage for singe is 33 so that's quite a difference. As for mages I would pay the least as the damage reduction isn't that beneficial for mages due to their lower health and armor. Plus samael definitely is the most beneficial for mages amongst all of the classes and the difference in int is only 5. If samael does almost as good of a job as singe there's no reason why I should pay more. Remember samael has a passive heal and mana regen to all party members in range.

Keep in mind though that burn damage is applied more often and stacks if I recall correctly.

As for the damage reduction, STG should really shed light on how this is calculated. Until we know, we cannot determine how useful damage reduction is exactly.