Future Events vs. Class/Gear Balancing

[Impact]

For twink lvls, str bears are invincible due to -90 dmg and deal 200 dmg per shot due to 60 dmg buff, dex bears are hard to kill due to -90 dmg and do 100 dmg per auto due to 60 dmg buff, mages in general deal decent damage and use 6 heal builds, so at lower twink lvls are invincible due to and at higher are hard to kill due to 100-200 hp restored per heal, birds suck at every low lvl pvp lvl, rhinos are only gud at 20 with plat pack, foxes are nubs vs bears cuz they cant unroot 5 sec stuns from bears and -90 dmg other then that bears are so balanced, pvp is so balanced, pvp takes such skill to beckon stomp

Rage doesn't give +90 damage until l9

I said 60 dmg read closely, I said -90 dmg debuffs

[Lexlyde]

Rebalance.

[XghostzX]

I'm PVE only and couldn't care less bout PVP. Just want to remind ppl to think bout what happened last time there was a "rebalancing" of skills and gear.

Was anyone satisfied?

Well, although I disagree with the future events overriding pvp/class balance, I do see your point

[Waug]

events r for one time but balance is forever.

Peoples wouldn't stay the game hoping someday some events gonna come.

but ppls gonna leave if pvp stayed like this.

[Impact]

events r for one time but balance is forever.

Peoples wouldn't stay the game hoping someday some events gonna come.

but ppls gonna leave if pvp stayed like this.

As u saw, the "nerfs" that made pvp more "strategic" drove away 3/4 of the original community, most guilds are inactive, most people never have more then 5 friends on at a time and some pvp lvls such as 45 have 1 or 2 games per 10 min

[Skeletonlord]

@Bglir thanks a lot!

@troncaat oh, I see. I also heard that the savage bear set is too strong, but I don't really find it that strong. Maybe it's because of my stats and build? I am a level 76 bear with savage, how should I max out my skills and abilities and builds?

[Cavoc]

@Bglir thanks a lot!

@troncaat oh, I see. I also heard that the savage bear set is too strong, but I don't really find it that strong. Maybe it's because of my stats and build? I am a level 76 bear with savage, how should I max out my skills and abilities and builds?

Max all your buffs. Except I put my taunt at 8.
Max hellscream
8-9 crushing blow
4-5 beckon
6-8 stomp
6-9 SMS
Rest put your slashes where ya want them.
And I use 1 heal for the +5 regen

Edit: my usual build is
9 iron
9 rage
9 evade
8 taunt
9 hellscream
8 crushing blow
4 beckon
6 stomp
9 SMS
1 heal
2 crippling
1 the other slash

[Tyranno-]

@ Impact - Exactly my point - no one asked for certain nerfs but they happened anyway. Who's to say same won't happen again? Moral of the story is: Be careful what you wish for, you may get more than you expected.

@ Skeletonlord - i can give you my skill set for pure pve. Any points in taunt other than 1 to get the skill are wasted. A level 1 taunt works just as well as level 9 for attracting enemies, and you have enough health to absorb the hits so why bother dodging them? If you plan to pvp you'll want more points in taunt, evade, and/or iron blood - one of the pro pvpers round here would know far more bout it than me lol

Anyway, pure pve this skill set works great in bsm even at lvl 68 wearing humania gear:
All slashes 9 (Vengeful, Crippling, Super Mega)
Stomp 9
Rage 9
Taunt 1
Crushing Blow 9
Restore 0
Iron Blood 2
Hell Scream 9
Evade 0
Beckon 9

Hope this helps you

[kwahiwik]

such pros

[Covert]

@ Impact - Exactly my point - no one asked for certain nerfs but they happened anyway. Who's to say same won't happen again? Moral of the story is: Be careful what you wish for, you may get more than you expected.

@ Skeletonlord - i can give you my skill set for pure pve. Any points in taunt other than 1 to get the skill are wasted. A level 1 taunt works just as well as level 9 for attracting enemies, and you have enough health to absorb the hits so why bother dodging them? If you plan to pvp you'll want more points in taunt, evade, and/or iron blood - one of the pro pvpers round here would know far more bout it than me lol

Anyway, pure pve this skill set works great in bsm even at lvl 68 wearing humania gear:
All slashes 9 (Vengeful, Crippling, Super Mega)
Stomp 9
Rage 9
Taunt 1
Crushing Blow 9
Restore 0
Iron Blood 2
Hell Scream 9
Evade 0
Beckon 9

Hope this helps you

[Tyranno-]

I'm not even sure what your post means; only thing I *am* sure of is - I don't care.

Thanks for your meaningful input. Have a nice day

[Cavoc]

I'm not even sure what your post means; only thing I *am* sure of is - I don't care.

Thanks for your meaningful input. Have a nice day

I'm not even sure what your build means. I thought you were kidding. Apparently not.

[Covert]

I'm not even sure what your post means; only thing I *am* sure of is - I don't care.

Thanks for your meaningful input. Have a nice day

haha, judging by that build I can't imagine caring is in your repertoire

[IGN Storm]

Events are fun for a week. Caps are fun for 3 months. PVP will be fun for a loooonnnnngggg time if it is balanced.

[Breton]

Why would someone want events reused events over a balance? Seems illogic, I'm a bear and PvP is boring because they are op and I would love if it was balanced so I could play every class and have to win with actual skill...

[XghostzX]

Why would someone want events reused events over a balance? Seems illogic, I'm a bear and PvP is boring because they are op and I would love if it was balanced so I could play every class and have to win with actual skill...

Respect for admitting bears have the upper hand. <3

[Tyranno-]

haha, judging by that build I can't imagine caring is in your repertoire

Lmao. I've capped more bears in bsm maps with over 1000 to 1 k/d ratios with and without elixirs than you have capped toons alltogether. That build requires some skill at playing - which I'm certain is why you're mystified by it.

Considering your experience in PVE is likely predominently in the maze (or magic castle before that) I'm not quite sure what makes you think you're qualified to comment at all.

So, thanks for your useless commentary. You've proven the shallow, trolling atmosphere so prevelant in PL now has infected the forum too. And thank you, I'll never recover the 5 min of my life I've wasted on you.

[Covert]

Lmao. I've capped more bears in bsm maps with over 1000 to 1 k/d ratios with and without elixirs than you have capped toons alltogether. That build requires some skill at playing - which I'm certain is why you're mystified by it.

Considering your experience in PVE is likely predominently in the maze (or magic castle before that) I'm not quite sure what makes you think you're qualified to comment at all.

So, thanks for your useless commentary. You've proven the shallow, trolling atmosphere so prevelant in PL now has infected the forum too. And thank you, I'll never recover the 5 min of my life I've wasted on you.

[kwahiwik]

Lmao. I've capped more bears in bsm maps with over 1000 to 1 k/d ratios with and without elixirs than you have capped toons alltogether. That build requires some skill at playing - which I'm certain is why you're mystified by it.

Considering your experience in PVE is likely predominently in the maze (or magic castle before that) I'm not quite sure what makes you think you're qualified to comment at all.

So, thanks for your useless commentary. You've proven the shallow, trolling atmosphere so prevelant in PL now has infected the forum too. And thank you, I'll never recover the 5 min of my life I've wasted on you.

Please, hes been around since 56, so clearly he knows what hes doing

[Caiahar]

Tyranno, you dont know how others do pve. You dont know if others are skilled at it.
And on that build...9 beckon 9 stomp? Are you serious? I'd understand 9 beckon and a low stomp, but this. That iron blood is way too low.

You say that you're tanky enough to not need the dodge that taunt gives; the dodge that it gives is more than evade itself when it is stacked 2x. 9 beckon and 9 stomp is bad for crowd control, you can use it to bring enemies to a wall and stomp against it, but a lvl 7 beckon and a lvl 3-6 stomp does the same.

Oh, do you want more dmg? Thats many bears do nowadays in PvE, try to dmg instead of tank efficiently. You use the taunt to aggro all, and you'll be hit alot, so the high iron blood and taunt dodge will help, and just group against a wall and stomp and debuff.

Oh, and Dont try to say I'm a mega maze PvE person, I hardly use it, and I do have quite of experience with bear to know how it works.