Thread: End Game Balance Discussion
Not going to say it again - Savage STR set. Bears are incredibly OP and it's not fun.
-Savage nerf... it's supposed to focus on tanking not damage and OP crits
-Reducing dodge... players rely way too much on it nowadays - it should be purely for birds (but even then I believe it should be lowered a bit).
-Reducing overall damage from players... I blame it partially on the lack of health/armor and the 9 skill points...
passives sam ik ht would take effort but tht would keep players happy for a long long time
nothing lasts forever
I say take off damage nerf so birds can be good at all lvls then afterwards Nerf swift a bit so Dex bears and pure birds arent as Op. This will help birds at every pvp lvl be more equal with other classes again.
well can you, the devs, test out some of these suggestions in pvp if you guys have time? i think that would be the most efficient way instead of us here estimating/guessing what would balance out pvp
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agree, it is much better! but tbh, stg has balanced once last year, and look what comes after, dex birds and int mages came out for crying savage sets too op, bears too op.Originally Posted by smokester
why don't they just improve themselves, there are many good dex birds which owning bears at end game, just not those who crying here.
i am sure after the new "balancing", beads and str class will complain for op, it just won't stop, so what is the point of changing the situation? why not enjoy what we have in game now?
Last edited by cryforop; 05-05-2014 at 05:04 PM.
Can tell you only use savage.. Yawn. No one complained at 50-61 and so on when it was more balanced so
Make str have less damage,armor,dodge, and health. Make int have more armor, And a little less damage. And dex have a little less damage.
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I bet ur a bearagree, it is much better! but tbh, stg has balanced once last year, and look what comes after, dex birds and int mages came out for crying savage sets too op, bears too op.
why don't they just improve themselves, there are many good dex birds which owning bears at end game, just not those who crying here.
i am sure after the new "balancing", beads and str class will complain for op, it just won't stop, so what is the point of changing the situation? why not enjoy what we have in game now?
No, I think int in endgame is fine. I think dex needs a bit less damage, then int mages stands more of a chance against dex birds.
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Hello Sam,
I would really like to thank you for taking your time to listen to us, finally you listened. As for which class to nerf, I guess all people above have said what I wanted to say, "Bears are very op" and "Nerf savage sets." I just would like a confirmation whether balance is soon or not, once again Thank you.
~Soul
Last edited by Extreme; 05-05-2014 at 05:43 PM.
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sorry i am a full int mage
dex birds (i mean good birds) are actually op, *cough.. cold*
they can take out a bear in 3-4 skills, and don't forget the real op skill blindshot which really makes you blind and miss all spells.
I really am happy that Sam is trying really hard. For me these would be awesome:
Evaluate Mage's Fiery set (Increase armor and health at least)
Birds are decent, but maybe a little more dodge? People might disagree on this one
Bears need a nerf on the slashes and combo.
Foxes need an escape buff other than evasion. ( to get out stuns) Fix the rapid bite thing about leaping in. When updating the rapid bite, the fox doesn't leap in.
Rhinos need a bit more damage cause it is impossible to beat a full buffed savage bear with a rhino.
Savage needs A HUGE NERF!
End Game Balance Discussion
Bird fights are purely about dodge, luck and the rings they have. Any bird using elite bow sets seem more tanky than a bear. This sometimes makes it impossible to kill birds with other classes.
For instance, bears can't really kill birds if they hit blind shot making it almost impossible to beat birds as a bear. I just see 15-20 skills all dodged.
Mages are a complete fail this cap as they simply get killed with 2 hits from a bird and get rekt by bears with the high damage on savage.
Currently pvp in this cap seems almost completely about luck and the rings.
Idk.... I just think we're over exaggeration how op savage set really is and how birds need more dodge when swift could use some nerfing as well.
***Maybe a quest for elite rings would also help balance pvp.
Or even better, getting rid of the rings in pvp altogether.
Last edited by Crashy; 05-05-2014 at 06:21 PM.
totally agree! imo, birds need a nerf!!!
This, this is what most bears think, not pointing at you, Andrew. I've played bear for awhile also, its not impossible to beat a bird when they hit blind, its probably the same percentage as when a bear beckons then Hell screams a bird.
Just to balance all class reduce skill points back to 7 rather than 9.
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Swift just needs a little dmg nerf,blind is what helps bird beat bears.
I onlt have swift talon set though :/
@cryforop: If you say pvp is fine right now, then youre wrong. And why do you care if savage is nerfed? Because you cant use an op set anymore? Are you the one that will be "crying" if savage is nerfed? There are many good birds and int mages, but even the good ones can get owned by savage, so you cant exactly improve yourself in a snap of a finger. That balance last year wasn't even a balance much for endgame. Birds dodge buff is lower, and theres dmg nerf (which I don't like) and the only people actually "crying" if savage is nerfed are ones who got too used to savage.
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This, this is what most bears think, not pointing at you, Andrew. I've played bear for awhile also, its not impossible to beat a bird when they hit blind, its probably the same percentage as when a bear beckons then Hell screams a bird.
Just to balance all class reduce skill points back to 7 rather than 9.
Just mentioning what bears think compared to all the birds thinking savage is op and how birds need more dodge.
But don't get me wrong savage does need nerfing, and so does swift.
sorry, i may disappoint you, i am a full int mage lol
i don't cry like your pro guild lol
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