Im sure hes just trying to help the mage community by letting others know what works for him. Maybe others can build upon it, modify it or offer constructive feedback. Thats the point of sharing ideas and experiences.Originally Posted by ody style:1509339
Thread is a bit updated for this expansion!
Well when i play my warrior i just love to pull the little smurfs with my axe... this pull has insane range. You will NOT get away from it... the consequence of this is: You eat all that damage, arcane Maul-Tanks have around 700dmg with correct pet and, passive dmg and VB... even with ent. hammer lvl40 you easily get over 450dmg.
So i tell you the truth: The only real chance of killing the warrior is the second when he charges HOR with low health... so you have to know when he is low and then you have stun/panic and deal all your damage. The smart warrior will adapt to this and charge the HOR earlier and you CAN NOT take em down in 8 seconds when the next HOR is ready. If its gettin worse for the warrior he will just charge Jugger at the beginning and switch it to HOR. The mage will run out of mana and the warrior finishs him off!
As mage you need an arcane staff and a samael... If timing is with you and against the warrior, he gets stunned/aborted while charging HOR and then you win and this is the only way to win this!
Most warriors don't use Windmill in PvP, especially in 1v1's. That leaves them to pick 2 attack skills (maybe 3 in some occasions) which include Axe Throw, Skyward Smash, or Chest Splitter. No one said anything about evading the pull from Axe Throw, but when you keep your distance against the warrior opponent, that makes the warrior less likely to hit you with his/her DPS attacks and Chest Splitter, which makes a big difference.
Nowadays, I see less warriors use VB. Instead, they use another attack skill. Speaking from a warrior perspective (I am a warrior as well), the only reason I would use VB would be the mana gain, and maybe the extra increase in your crit percentage. Honestly, I don't really see that huge of a difference in damage output when VB is activated, but now, since most players have Samael, or even Valkin, you don't need a mana regen skill, and can replace that with another attack skill. I honestly never run out of mana in a 5v5 clash, and 500 HP doesn't make much of a difference to me anymore. This way, I can use Axe Throw, Skyward Smash, AND Chest Splitter, and the feeble from both Axe Throw and Chest Splitter makes it so much more easier for me as a warrior.
It doesn't matter how much 'damage' a warrior has on his/her stat page; what matters most is the damage output, and sorcerers have way more damage output than any warrior.
So now I will tell you the truth: The only way to defeat the tank is to out-tank the tank. You need to learn to survive enough and dish incredible damage at the same time. Endure the battle, and once your warrior opponent's Juggernaut ability wears off (and if he/she manages to squish in one more heal), the warrior will die.
I would like to remind you that an arcane staff and Samael are recommended to defeat a warrior. I have to admit, mauls this season (without Samael or any other panic pet i.e. Slag) are surprisingly easier to kill. You should still be more worried about killing a glaive. You do not have to rely on stuns to win in a cheap way (by canceling their heal), that shows you have no skills at all, just luck. What plays a key role is skill and experience when VSing a warrior. If you got no skill, then I highly suggest you to step out of the 1v1 rooms and go practice.
1. Sorry that i only have around 18k PVP kills, how can i have any experience in PvP ?!?!
2. All fights i saw you 1vs warrior you lost, most times not even close... How many times you win vs a skilled good geared warrior? 1 out 20 because he failed the heal 1 time? LMAO!
3. You know the day i told you to stop gifting me your 50 crap silver items but you didnt stop?
4. Is this your way to treat guildies? Obviously yes -> HF - TY and welcome to my ignorelist!
Last edited by Robhawk; 04-03-2014 at 12:16 PM.
Seems like warrior is good,maybe I should create overpowerwarrior?LOL
Unfortunately now I seldom online,feeling lazy......
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1.) Just because you have a ridiculous amount of kills doesn't mean anything. Sure, you can ks, or kite well, but in this situation, I'm talking about 1v1's.
2.) Come online this weekend, I will party you and another random warrior and I will show you. At this time, you're just flaming this thread, I do not (no one else either) need your pointless comments which doesn't even relate to the topic. We are talking about a way to kill warriors in 1v1, please stick to it. After our meeting this weekend, feel free to post your experience.
3.) Free gold, suck it up or reject gifts.
4.) What do you mean, how am I treating a guildie bad? I think you are the one that is over-reacting and exaggerating here.
Thank you
So just to get the point, what is a randon warrior in your oppinion? A warrior that doesnt play Pvp that much? Well i can kill those too... or do you we speak of the experienced PVP-warriors like Dschards or Wolfthebad or some of the decent warriors of magnum? Try Brazzballss with arcane Maul, i cant stand this guy but he is very good at pvp and i bet you wont kill him ONCE out of 100! You want to be top skilled mage so you have to face and BEAT a top warrior with Maul and YOU WONT KILL HIM BECAUSE THE WARRIOR OWNS THE MAGE CLASS - IS IT THAT HARD TO UNDERASTAND?
I dont need a party with you because i know you will not kill any of the warriors i bring in your ring! Also im not flaming your thread you are just a bit jaunty and i just want to tell th other mages that when they lose 1vs warrior that it doesnt mean they are bad. Its just how this game is made and when arcane Maul with 700+dmg and Samael comes for the little tiny smurf the consequence will be that you are dead - P E R I O D ! I)ts just only the heal, warrior heals every 7.5 seconds to FULL HEALTH... How long is the cooldown of smurfs heal? Does it heal all health? So the cooldown takes double time and it doesnt heal to full health? Yes ? So what are you talkin about in this thread? Its just a waste of time! You have little chances with a kerhsal and samael but not as "only full myth"... What you write in this thread sounds like " i kill all those warriors bring em on" So all other mages think :"oh wow i cant beat those but instanthumour has to be the greatest mage ever!" -> LMAOOOO !!!
Another thing: When someone tells you to to stop spamming your crap items you should just stop and dont continue and laugh! Only ******* do this!
@ all other "normal" mages: Dont bother when losing to a warrior - its not your lack of skill as Mr instanthumour is trying to tell you, its the different classes and how the game is made! Try to kill the rogues 1on1 that should be easier because? Yes because the game is made that way!
EDIT: When you have those stats and good skills then you can kill even the top warriors at 1on1! But this is arcane weapon, arcane ring and arcane pet! and NO this mage isnt buffed by anything else!
Last edited by Robhawk; 04-04-2014 at 05:18 AM.
If you need a war for practice count me in Instant i am always willing to fight with the stronger ones and learn some tricks
Maliath or Marshusband.
Nice guide.. but doesnt matter if warrior using jugger..
Thing is, warriors this season hit like rogues with the new magmatic claymore. Right now, its nearly impossible to kill a switching warrior, and one who doesn't switch still packs a punch aand lasts long.
I know tanks with 6.8k HP, 400 damage and 1.9k armor - and the magma's skill damage is way high. Proof? My l40 warrior in Tarlok's hits about 100-200 damage less than my mythic l41 mage (not including crits) and has double HP and nearly double armor. Something must be wrong here...
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