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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstar View Post
    Well, I'd give this tip, I remember plqx defeating my rhino this way.
    Once the rhinos buffs are up, use blind break and nuke em out. Why? Rhinos have rlly low hit, their buff gives them hit, so when it's over and they get blinded..Gg.
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    best PvP feedback/guide ever, well done bro
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    Ik this is a big bump, but I think new players at 51 are gonna want to see this guide.

    And also Micah, you should add an option for a skill build with 5 avian in it... Give it an extra perspective and playstyle to the guide ya know?
    ya YEET

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laar View Post
    Ik this is a big bump, but I think new players at 51 are gonna want to see this guide.

    And also Micah, you should add an option for a skill build with 5 avian in it... Give it an extra perspective and playstyle to the guide ya know?
    I agree and a good bump because mighty deserves more thanks for such a well written out guide

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    Thanks, guys! I'll see if I can punch it up with more details. I think I'll add a guide for being a dex bird as well since so many people insist on that haha I'll also be sure to include an alternate 5 in avian scream build.

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    After reading your guide again Micah, I'd have to disagree with rhinos being easy for birds. At most levels, rhinos could easily demolish birds as they have a charge and a heal, out tanking a bird and forcing them to lose the ability to kite. As a warbird, they would also out tank you, and you would go down slowly while they dwindle your health down.

    There is a trick that was proposed by Shadowstar (ily Shadow btw). One way to beat a rhino is to cast Evasion first, and wait until 20 seconds after to cast Focus. This is because rhinos have low hit%, and their only hit% buff is Vital Force. You have to tank their Vital Force for 20 seconds by casting Evasion, and then cast Focus once Vital Force is over. That way, you can nuke them while their Vital Force is cooling down. NEVER use a sword and shield against rhinos. Even with this strategy, they could still tank you with their heal while your Focus is still active. With this strategy, you would still have a good chance of losing, but you would also have a chance of beating the opponent.

    Sorry for the big bump, but I just wanted to point that out. I can clearly understand why you wouldn't know that a bird's worst weakness are rhinos, as there are no 51 rhinos I know of. Above is just one strategy on how to beat rhinos, and it's the best one I know of. Again, I want to compliment you on this extraordinary guide Micah. You've really taught people a thing or two.

    EDIT: Lol I just read all the comments and found that Shadow already mentioned it, I just explained it in more detail. Well, that's the way to beat rhinos.
    Last edited by Laar; 05-25-2014 at 05:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laar View Post

    you wouldn't know that a bird's worst weakness are rhinos, as there are no 51 rhinos I know of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by synfullmagic_23110:1654560
    Quote Originally Posted by Laar View Post

    you wouldn't know that a bird's worst weakness are rhinos, as there are no 51 rhinos I know of.
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    ^^ except for that noob rhino.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laar View Post
    ^^ except for that noob rhino.
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    I fought a couple of 51 rhinos today on my fox. There are some out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by programmed:1654635
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    ^^ except for that noob rhino.
    Jk ily <33
    I fought a couple of 51 rhinos today on my fox. There are some out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PL•ayer:1654787
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    Quote Originally Posted by PL病yer View Post
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    At the "see what I did there"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laar View Post
    After reading your guide again Micah, I'd have to disagree with rhinos being easy for birds. At most levels, rhinos could easily demolish birds as they have a charge and a heal, out tanking a bird and forcing them to lose the ability to kite. As a warbird, they would also out tank you, and you would go down slowly while they dwindle your health down.

    There is a trick that was proposed by Shadowstar (ily Shadow btw). One way to beat a rhino is to cast Evasion first, and wait until 20 seconds after to cast Focus. This is because rhinos have low hit%, and their only hit% buff is Vital Force. You have to tank their Vital Force for 20 seconds by casting Evasion, and then cast Focus once Vital Force is over. That way, you can nuke them while their Vital Force is cooling down. NEVER use a sword and shield against rhinos. Even with this strategy, they could still tank you with their heal while your Focus is still active. With this strategy, you would still have a good chance of losing, but you would also have a chance of beating the opponent.

    Sorry for the big bump, but I just wanted to point that out. I can clearly understand why you wouldn't know that a bird's worst weakness are rhinos, as there are no 51 rhinos I know of. Above is just one strategy on how to beat rhinos, and it's the best one I know of. Again, I want to compliment you on this extraordinary guide Micah. You've really taught people a thing or two.

    EDIT: Lol I just read all the comments and found that Shadow already mentioned it, I just explained it in more detail. Well, that's the way to beat rhinos.
    Thanks for the feedback, bro! There's a couple things I want to mention.

    First, my guide is from the perspective of a 51 avian. If rhinos can beat birds at other levels, that's of no consequence to me or my guide.

    Second, I have tried the delayed meditation before and it's worked, but it's also backfired. In my experience it is best to tank the rhinos with a sword and shield until their buff is gone, then swap to a damage bow set to quickly nuke them while their buff is gone.

    Third, I would still have to say that rhinos are easy for birds at level 51. Not pure dex birds, mind you. Pure dex birds are too fragile and struggle to survive against rhinos. But a warbird literally cannot be killed by a rhino if the bird is playing right. The only chance a rhino has is to equip full fury for the mana regen and survivability. If he does so, however, his damage still isn't enough (not to mention hit %) and I'd wager a skilled dex bird could even beat him easily enough.
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    No offense micah, but I have this annoying ocd and it says Glass canon, not glass cannon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstar View Post
    No offense micah, but I have this annoying ocd and it says Glass canon, not glass cannon

    >_<
    Haha! Thanks for pointing that out bro. I'll fix it right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstar View Post
    No offense micah, but I have this annoying ocd and it says Glass canon, not glass cannon

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