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    Thumbs up [(L20 Bird Guide)] After-Nerf Updated

    Hello, Community and today, I have a very special suprise for you! :P It's my bird guide! Most of the guides you search up on L16/L18/L20 Bird are outdated now, since the bird fall. I mean, older birds quit because of the impact this had. Now, you're probrably not going to get a game with a bird in it 10-20. Many other birds still active (Explain, Ambulances, Soundset, Farwhal, etc.) continue to try persuading other people to join the L10-20 Bird Community, which is rather small, but with determination, we can bring it back!

    Hold on tight, please, because this is one descriptive, yet powerful guide. (Not trying to brag. )

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    I: Build
    II: Critical Power; Tips
    III: Q&A

    I: Build
    6 Focus 6 Break 3 Shattering 1 Repulse 1 Blast 1 Root 1 Blind This is my nuke build as a 20 Bird. Normally, I use L20 Sniper/Jewel Thief Helmet, L15 Expert, L20 Sniper/Jewel Talon, L20 Huntress Shield, L20 67 Dex Crit/Damage ring. It would be extremely vital to use this setup against Bear because of talon + huntress extra Hit % (shields HS, Light, Blind, etc. effects). You can swap talon + huntress shield for Forgotten Bow.

    3 Focus 5 Evade 1 Break 1 Shattering 3 Repulse 4 Blast 1 Root 1 Blind This is my sustain build. It is a very viable build because kite is ensured with 3 Repulse, and maximal damage is ensured with 4 Blast. Use the same loadout as above, but sometimes, when you're fighting Forgotten Bow Bear/Mage/Rhino, Armsan or Artisan will work.

    1 Focus 5 Evade 1 Break 1 Shattering 3 Repulse 6 Blast 1 Root 1 Blind This is quite not that different from the sustain build, but it adds more damage output than crit chance output. Use same loadout on both builds above.


    II: Critical Power; Tips

    Soundset's Tips!
    Soundset On Bears:"Kite. Practice applying the range of your skills."
    Soundset On Mages:"Depends on the Mage. Spread out your skills and damage. Wait for heal to come out and then nuke."

    Shivkabob Tips! (me ofc -_-)
    Shivkabob On Bears:"Kite is very vital. Use maximal range on your shots, and practice using your eyes to see an obvious attempt of juke."
    Shivkabob On Birds:"This is the only thing pretty much of duel that you go up close on. Neatly (lel) plant down Break-BackOff-Blind-Root-Shat-Blast, repeat and rinse off your enemy.
    Shivakbob On Foxes:"This is very much like Bear, but the VERY vital thing here (I mean very) is dodge. L5 Forged Armsman is the best in this job, along with Dodge/Armor ring.
    Shivkabob On Rhinos:"Use bird tip and equip Forged Armsman with Dodge/Armor ring.

    Critical! RANGE:
    -All your shots are 12m. (If you miss Repulse, you're done, unless you can walk out the cooldown on it.)
    -Root is 10m. (If you waste Repulse and miss Root, you're done IMMEDIATELY. If you miss Root, and got Repulse, you're fine for a while.)
    -Shattering is 8m.

    ESSENTIAL COMBOS
    Bear: Repulse-Run-Root-Blind-Shat-Blast-Repeat and Rinse Off Your Enemy
    Foxes: ^
    Birds: Blind-Break-Root-Shat-Blast-Repulse-Run and Wait for Cooldowns
    Rhinos:^
    Mages:^ for nuke. Sustain: Blind-Repulse-AutoUntilHeal-ComeInRoot-Break-Shat-Blast-IfBlind+RepulseUpThenUse-Repeat

    III: Q&A

    Q: Shiv, is it true that your guide sucks?
    A: Idk. It's based on your opinion, please.

    Q: What if you duel a L22 Bear?
    A: I wouldn't reccomend it, although you can deal at least 3/4 tops until you get killed off by Beck-HS-Slash-Stomp.

    Q: HS is so hard for me to counter. Help?
    A: I would reccomend you maximize your knowledge on range. Repulse has a longer range than HS, so use it at full capicity. If you miss, walk it out, or try to counter HS with Root.

    Q: Why not 6 Blind? (Fear)
    A: 6 Blind is not a priority, because yes, the damage is huge, but I just don't prefer it over upgraded skills such as 3 Repulse (Extra Knockback) and buffs. If Blind is such as prioritized usage, I suppose 3 Focus 5 Evade 6 Blind 1 Root 1 Shatt 3 Blast.

    Thank you for sticking with me! <3 Try to improve me by sending criticises and help for Q&A!
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    Nice Guide Shiv!
    Its good to see more birds at the L20 pvp area.

    I reckon if you seperated gear and build, it would be better; but aparts from that its really good.

    Congrats on the release!

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    The 2nd skill build is the same one I used to use and it works very well.

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    Cool guide yo
    Last edited by Mennddoza; 06-12-2014 at 11:15 PM.
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    Why not 6 blind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fear:1681067
    Why not 6 blind?
    I asked this too. Blind is the second most damaging skill, plus it has a debuff. I'd pick this over blast.

    Nice guide though, I would definetely use this if I decide go go 20 bird.
    ya YEET

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    tell people anout range glitch


    if you are backing away you lose 2m on skills opponent gains 2m on everything so beckon can be up to 14m

    def making one (kiter birdy 19 auto bow and artisan and 20 bone helm)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningdex:1681184
    tell people anout range glitch


    if you are backing away you lose 2m on skills opponent gains 2m on everything so beckon can be up to 14m

    might make one
    I hate it when it's mage vs mage and I can't hit the opponent mage while the mage hits me.
    ya YEET

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fear View Post
    Why not 6 blind?
    honestly 6 blind is not that great at 20. most people use 1 blind for that extra skill that puts damage on your opponent
     
    FONDLING, CARESSED, GROPED, BUSTING, JIGGLING, CRUELAID

     
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    nuke or kite guys?
    nothing lasts forever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningdex View Post
    nuke or kite guys?
    I do nuke because it's my style, but any works.

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    gonna use nuke setup

    2nd one is quite good as well
    nothing lasts forever

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    Nice guide.

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    You should also put in the guide that birds should not get into other peoples business regarding who rushed who. We are not powerful enough to settle those skirmishes haha. Unless you have that OP rhino you can threaten with (one I do not own), otherwise 20 birds should be as peaceful as a PvPer can get at that level...
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    ty :3 I'm making a 20 bird now

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    I would be happy to join the community as I never deleted my level 20 bird, but fbows are so overpriced now that I don't think it's worth it. Also, how on earth would you beat a tank mage? It was hard enough pre-nerf, but now it seems impossible. Have you ever beaten one? Finally, what if you're one with slight range lag? It's slight enough to mess up your range. Then when your lag stops, you do repulse too early. Bird just seems way too complicated and I think and unnerf is in order.

    P.S. Thought about making a 26 bird guide?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Depury View Post
    I would be happy to join the community as I never deleted my level 20 bird, but fbows are so overpriced now that I don't think it's worth it. Also, how on earth would you beat a tank mage? It was hard enough pre-nerf, but now it seems impossible. Have you ever beaten one? Finally, what if you're one with slight range lag? It's slight enough to mess up your range. Then when your lag stops, you do repulse too early. Bird just seems way too complicated and I think and unnerf is in order.

    P.S. Thought about making a 26 bird guide?


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    Simply put, one does not simply beat a tank mage with a 20 bird. Its nearly impossible

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineMoustache View Post
    Simply put, one does not simply beat a tank mage with a 20 bird. Its nearly impossible
    I think I already knew that lol. Someone post a screenie of a bird beating a tank and I'll be your best friend.


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    You got me to make a 20 bird again after seeing more people make 20 birds because of this guide

    Programmed-Level 85 mage, Praktica-Level 85 rhino

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    i killed them regularly they cant do dmg for poop just use plat hammer and nuke them
    nothing lasts forever

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