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    Quote Originally Posted by Serancha View Post
    A mythic set is currently about 1.6m. This is NOT a reason not to release better gear, when this stuff has been out forever. How is the game supposed to progress if you guys want to keep the same gear for a lifetime? What does that leave anyone to work for?
    I'm just saying STS should release better mythic amulets and rings before gear. Just so people won't get burned as much. And chill lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serancha View Post
    A mythic set is currently about 1.6m. This is NOT a reason not to release better gear, when this stuff has been out forever. How is the game supposed to progress if you guys want to keep the same gear for a lifetime? What does that leave anyone to work for?
    Im talking the set when it was released, now its dirty cheap. Yes we need new gear, problem, old gear hard earned gonna be trashed and new gear gonna be untouchable by non plat users. 1 mil things are 50 mil at their release.

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    If they didn't release better gear because people spent millions on their gear over a year ago, how do you explain mythic weapons? At their very cheapest they cost 6x more than a mythic set, yet they still release better ones (debatable in the case of bulwark, I know) every season, and nobody complains that their old ones are obsolete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serancha View Post
    If they didn't release better gear because people spent millions on their gear over a year ago, how do you explain mythic weapons? At their very cheapest they cost 6x more than a mythic set, yet they still release better ones (debatable in the case of bulwark, I know) every season, and nobody complains that their old ones are obsolete.
    Like amb says, we won't be happy unless the new gear is COMPLETELY farmable. No locks or this plat crap involved. Non plat players need a good way to get this. I don't care if the quest takes a month, I'll be fine if I don't spend a dime

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    Did you read my first post? The request was to make the new farmable legendaries better than the old mythic gear. Namely the planar equipment, since it is the newest.
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    Additionally, with seasons lasting an upwards of 6 months or more lately, mythic gear should really only be the best for ONE, maybe ONE & ONE-HALF season max. The best gear in the game should never be so easily obtainable as current mythics are. There once was a time where even the super rich could not afford a full mythic set - it was just ungodly expensive.

    This lead to people being creative with their gear and all other gear to have some value too. It was during this time that having a gear that was lootable through lockeds while still having a slightly inferior gear set through farming was manageable. Honestly, people complain that the game is broken because farming is dead but at the same time, they do not want the change required to step out of this loop.

    I think that the new mythics should be farmable, however, I do not mind if there are two tiers of gear: 1 super rare set & 1 farmable set. This creates goals for both the hardcore player and the casual player. If anyone remembers, this is like how it once was.

    The problem with making new mythics farmable is that they will be so exceedingly rare that most people will still use old mythics. So, there has to be two sets of gear released & both have to exceed the generations old current mythic gear.

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    Why cant we just have the best gear farmable (extreme farming) and the slightly weaker gear from crates? That will make the game worth it. Thats how it is with all the games around. What StS can do to is to have some sort of bonus elixirs on the crate gear, like 15%+ xp and so on, which they wont have on farmable gear. This will not decrease the amount of crates being opened as people always want the best, just the way 6 dex is better than 3 dex, these elixirs will somewhat force people to buy them if they want to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endkey View Post
    Why cant we just have the best gear farmable (extreme farming) and the slightly weaker gear from crates? That will make the game worth it.
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    Arena loot is broke. Even a dinky bandaid would help... It's one of the worst things I have ever seen in a video game. A wonderful well anticipated new zone into a game with not a single item worth playing for.

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    Bosses should have chance to drop 0-7 ankh along with regular loot. The arena should have other rare items that are cool and worthy of a price value. What about a rare vanity/banner/vanity pet that could come from master chest too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spimeslam View Post
    Bosses should have chance to drop 0-7 ankh along with regular loot. The arena should have other rare items that are cool and worthy of a price value. What about a rare vanity/banner/vanity pet that could come from master chest too.
    I like this. When they had the last event, bosses occasionally dropped energy kits. They could do the same with ankhs.
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    Untradeable Ankhs of course =]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candylicks View Post
    Arena loot is broke. Even a dinky bandaid would help... It's one of the worst things I have ever seen in a video game. A wonderful well anticipated new zone into a game with not a single item worth playing for.
    Yes. Nobody even really believed the fossil would drop, but they did believe there would be some gear dropping that would be useable. Not only is it not useable or sellable, the stats are as bad as level 36 epics when it should be better than anything else we have. And not at a rate of 2 items in 30 completed runs.
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    Back to our mythic armor hot discussion... I understand you don't want to have a lvl 26 helm considered "best" at our current cap 41 but what if they just upgrade the armor? 10 levels to helm and 5 levels to armor should do it. I really don't see a good idea to make a new armor because:

    If new armor is made then people loses their gold. If people loses their gold then they are not happy. If they are not happy they leave game. If they leave game then they won't buy platinum anymore. If they don't buy platinum anymore then remiem is sad, if remiem is sad then all game developers are sad. If all game developers are sad they don't do updates. If they don't do updates then game is dead. If game is dead then it's removed from play store. If it's removed from play store we all gonna be sad.

    Baaaack to a serious discussion, that was 97% a joke, new armor no no no. Upgrade armor yes yes yes. Agree or not serancha? Lolol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralchior View Post
    Agreed 100%!
    I like to run the arena! It's challenging, aesthetically pleasing, and required communication among your party. I'd run the arena all day if I could, however I can't because of the fact that I can't afford to spend all my in game/IRL cash to farm something that will never return even the slightest profit. A lot of people I knew from elite/pve guilds were looking forward to the arena as it would give them something to farm again, seeing as elites are dead atm (another problem Imo). But, 90% of elite runners just sit around or lol@pvp now because arena has no plausible loot to farm for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadorbibidor View Post
    Back to our mythic armor hot discussion... I understand you don't want to have a lvl 26 helm considered "best" at our current cap 41 but what if they just upgrade the armor? 10 levels to helm and 5 levels to armor should do it. I really don't see a good idea to make a new armor because:

    If new armor is made then people loses their gold. If people loses their gold then they are not happy. If they are not happy they leave game. If they leave game then they won't buy platinum anymore. If they don't buy platinum anymore then remiem is sad, if remiem is sad then all game developers are sad. If all game developers are sad they don't do updates. If they don't do updates then game is dead. If game is dead then it's removed from play store. If it's removed from play store we all gonna be sad.

    Baaaack to a serious discussion, that was 97% a joke, new armor no no no. Upgrade armor yes yes yes. Agree or not serancha? Lolol


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    Considering you lol'd you already know that I'm going to disagree with upgrading. Upgrading to 36 was one of the biggest mistakes STS ever made. Upgrading again would mean the end of the game. We need actual new gear, not the same stuff we bought forever ago, modified in a 1 hour quest to last another 4 seasons.




    Edit to add: Nobody left the game because they spent 15m on level 36 mythics and then sts released level 41 mythics. They were happy to get something new and better to work for. Hundreds of people left the game in season 4 because the upgraded mythics meant nothing to farm for and no way to make money without platting.

    Why on earth would anyone be unhappy if sts released better gear? Farming for it for would give people something to do, a way to make money, and progress the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serancha View Post
    Considering you lol'd you already know that I'm going to disagree with upgrading. Upgrading to 36 was one of the biggest mistakes STS ever made. Upgrading again would mean the end of the game. We need actual new gear, not the same stuff we bought forever ago, modified in a 1 hour quest to last another 4 seasons.




    Edit to add: Nobody left the game because they spent 15m on level 36 mythics and then sts released level 41 mythics. They were happy to get something new and better to work for. Hundreds of people left the game in season 4 because the upgraded mythics meant nothing to farm for and no way to make money without platting.

    Why on earth would anyone be unhappy if sts released better gear? Farming for it for would give people something to do, a way to make money, and progress the game.
    It all sounds lovely, you are not wrong, I'm not saying that, but, please, tell me something farmable to get 6 mil. Pls don't say lockeds, pls don't say merching, and pls don't say elite tarewa cus we both know that not everyone has got gear to do it. Only decent way would be merching but are we supposed to stay in towns begging for discounts? if yes pls just remove all maps.

    Edit post: 6mil would be lowest for new myth gear. It could be 15 mil too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadorbibidor View Post
    It all sounds lovely, you are not wrong, I'm not saying that, but, please, tell me something farmable to get 6 mil. Pls don't say lockeds, pls don't say merching, and pls don't say elite tarewa cus we both know that not everyone has got gear to do it. Only decent way would be merching but are we supposed to stay in towns begging for discounts? if yes pls just remove all maps.

    Edit post: 6mil would be lowest for new myth gear. It could be 15 mil too.
    This is why I specifically suggested not one, but two new sets of gear. Both new sets have to be considerably better than the old mythics while the tier 2 set having less stats than the tier 1 stats.

    Tier 2 would remain farmable, tier 1 could be fossil rarity farmable (slightly less) & able to be looted in lockeds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    This is why I specifically suggested not one, but two new sets of gear. Both new sets have to be considerably better than the old mythics while the tier 2 set having less stats than the tier 1 stats.

    Tier 2 would remain farmable, tier 1 could be fossil rarity farmable (slightly less) & able to be looted in lockeds.
    Fossil rarity farmable? As in, the nonexistant odds of one dropping? The top gear needs to be farmable. Otherwise why bother playing the game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serancha View Post
    Fossil rarity farmable? As in, the nonexistant odds of one dropping? The top gear needs to be farmable. Otherwise why bother playing the game?
    The top gear being easily obtainable also kills the game. There will be a need for an elite set & there will be a need for a tier 2 set. This keeps both types of players happy: the hardcore & the casual.

    Remember, we need to pitch ideas that will also earn STG money. Otherwise, the incentive for them to include it is very low.

    With my suggestion, we have:
    - 2 new sets of gear
    - both replace mythic set, with one being better than the other
    - Tier 2 set will hold value because everyone needs to replace mythics
    - Tier 1 will be the new gear set for the hardcore as mythics originally was.


    Essentially, it's a reset to the mythic system which ended up being broken due to upgradable mythics.
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