Frost-Touched Bow of Potency Needs a Buff!

[Raregem]

The proc is nearly non existent. Either raise the proc rate or fix the glitch where Elondrian Warfare Recurve returns health on every attack when it shouldn't be according to description.


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The HP on every attack is not a glitch..they confirmed that on your thread two months ago.

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...=1#post1878418

So tech it should have a description change not a fix to the proc. The new bow may need a boost in the proc rate but it definitely shouldn't get the heal. The price doesn't need to drop anymore on the elo weapons.

[Pirate Captain]

The frost bow doesnt need a buff!?! If u dont like the bow, dont use it, use elo, done?! Why shud Sts buff it? It shud better be a cheaper than elo weapon for ppl who havent enough gold for elo bow, they can buy the frost bow then and they'll be happy!? So pls stop crying, ty.

I think it was intended to be the other way around

[Zeus]

Increasing the proc rate of the Frost Mythic Bow and Decreasing Elon Bows Proc? Is this really the solution that you want? Sorry but I think you are being one-sided with the things you are telling me and contradicting the main point of your concern which is for both bows to be fair. Again, both bows were made for different situations. Sometimes acceptance is the key. Devs confirmed everything beforehand. I think you need to focus on the term "Made Differently".


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You are misinterpreting.

The health return per attack, including spells, is not meant to happen. If you read the weapon description, it states that the health return is to occur only on charged attack. Yes, the bows are made differently. One is meant to be aggressive, while the other is meant to be defensive and I completely understand that. However, the Elondrian warfare recurve is both defensive and offensive as indicated by bush proc which also occurs at a substantially higher rate than the Frost Touched Bow.

I use both bows and would not want either one to be substantially better than the other. After all, that would make my paracelsus gem Elo bow useless, no? However, I do want the bows to be indicative of their use. If the Frost Touched Bow is meant to be aggressive than the developers should buff the proc rate. Currently, I'm barely able to get 2-3 procs off in one run when spamming auto attack in between arrows. When I use the Elondrian Warfare, I get substantially better proc results.

Additionally, as I stated before, I am not unopposed to the idea of making them equal to each other and having people base their preference on looks.


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[Zeus]

The HP on every attack is not a glitch..they confirmed that on your thread two months ago.

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...=1#post1878418

So tech it should have a description change not a fix to the proc. The new bow may need a boost in the proc rate but it definitely shouldn't get the heal. The price doesn't need to drop anymore on the elo weapons.

"Due to some technical issues"

AKA

They could not get the bow to work as previously intended so they took the easy way out which honestly, makes the game a lot easier than it should be.


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[twoxc]

I hate agreeing with you lol but I have to agree frost bow is no where up to par with elonhdrian bow. At least increase the proc rate. Even my Ancient planar Pendant proc more then the frost bow lol.

[Raregem]

"Due to some technical issues"

AKA

They could not get the bow to work as previously intended so they took the easy way out which honestly, makes the game a lot easier than it should be.


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If Sam hadn't posted the info before they changed the bow, had we never known the original design (like we don't with the majority of things) it wouldn't be an issue. The heal is nice but is it a complete game changer with it being on every attack? IMO no, most of us aren't suped up to the nines, so while it adds a small advantage it doesn't change much.

[Zeus]

I hate agreeing with you lol but I have to agree frost bow is no where up to par with elonhdrian bow. At least increase the proc rate. Even my Ancient planar Pendant proc more then the frost bow lol.

Thank you!

I understand that some people are scared for their Elondrian mythics to lose value. Trust me, I am not looking for that. I have quite a few Elondrian bows myself. Yes, multiple. They're good weapons at a bargain value.

However, all I am asking is for the Frost-Touched Warfare Recurve to be on par with Elondrian Warfare. It doesn't have to be through heal proc. It can be through increasing the proc rate.

[Kurimaw]

Zeus should be a dev too

[Defiling]

You are misinterpreting.

The health return per attack, including spells, is not meant to happen. If you read the weapon description, it states that the health return is to occur only on charged attack. Yes, the bows are made differently. One is meant to be aggressive, while the other is meant to be defensive and I completely understand that. However, the Elondrian warfare recurve is both defensive and offensive as indicated by bush proc which also occurs at a substantially higher rate than the Frost Touched Bow.

I use both bows and would not want either one to be substantially better than the other. After all, that would make my paracelsus gem Elo bow useless, no? However, I do want the bows to be indicative of their use. If the Frost Touched Bow is meant to be aggressive than the developers should buff the proc rate. Currently, I'm barely able to get 2-3 procs off in one run when spamming auto attack in between arrows. When I use the Elondrian Warfare, I get substantially better proc results.

Additionally, as I stated before, I am not unopposed to the idea of making them equal to each other and having people base their preference on looks.


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And you are contradicting you're main point of discussion here which is fairness for both bows.

At first, you want them to give the frost bow the health return proc. Then, you want them to increase the proc rate of the frost bow. Then, you want them to fix the glitch of the elon bow which is not actually a glitch based on the previous threads. Isn't that being one-sided to the frost bow? Where's the fairness that you are talking about for both bows? I do understand what you're telling me but then again Devs confirmed that it there will be advantage on the procs depending on the situation. Since you already said you have both then why not use the one you think is more useful or use them both depending on the situation? STS made a great decision in making both bows different from each other.


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[Zeus]

If Sam hadn't posted the info before they changed the bow, had we never know the original design (like we don't with the majority of things) it wouldn't be an issue. The heal is nice but is it a complete game changer with it being on every attack? IMO no, most of us aren't suped up to the nines so while it adds a small advantage it doesn't change much.

Charged Nox heals a substantial amount of health with the current mechanics which can be particularly useful when kiting and killing & one does not have the time to hit the potions button.

Actually, it's healing more than it should. 10% of damage is what it should be returning. However, when utilizing charged nox, the DoT alone will grant 50+ health per tick per DoT. So, it is a very quick way to regenerate health especially on top of other factors like Samael's healing aura or Shady & Surge.

The Elondrian Warfare has been glitched from day one but players do not like talking about it because it is something that benefits them.

All I am asking is for Frost Touched Bow to be on par with Elon bow. Is that too much to ask? That way players have a choice on which weapon they want to use.

[Zeus]

And you are contradicting you're main point of discussion here which is fairness for both bows.

At first, you want them to give the frost bow the health return proc. Then, you want them to increase the proc rate of the frost bow. Then, you want them to fix the glitch of the elon bow which is not actually a glitch based on the previous threads. Isn't that being one-sided to the frost bow? Where's the fairness that you are talking about for both bows? I do understand what you're telling me but then again Devs confirmed that it there will be advantage on the procs depending on the situation. Since you already said you have both then why not use the one you think is more useful or use them both depending on the situation? STS made a great decision in making both bows different from each other.


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I am not contradicting myself. The frost bow health return was a suggestion. Among that suggestion, there were other suggestions as well like increasing proc rate. I never stated that the frost bow receiving health return was my preferred suggestion. Did I? I never stated for all the suggestions to be implemented either, did I? It is a one or the other offering.

I want the bow to be worthwhile to use and that in turn benefits many, especially those who are popping crates.

Developers stated there will be an advantage on proc. Where is the advantage? The Elondrian Warfare is both offensive and defensive in its proc. Also, it does not take 5 minutes of spamming auto attack to get it to finally proc. The Frost Touched is an aggressive proc but so rare, even amulet seems to proc more.

I have both, yes. And currently, Elondrian seems to perform better in just about any situation.


STG made a great decision in ensuring Elondrian bows rise in value*.

[Kakashis]

Even with the super healing of the Elondrian bow, I still die in elites as it just can't keep up with the damage taken. Seriously "reskins" should be the same weapon in terms of stats and proc but just looks special. There really shouldn't have been a different proc nor extra DEX. The new bow shouldn't be buffed at all, or just make it the same as the Elondrian bow but maybe a ice bush instead of green. A color change should be good enough to make that bow valued slightly more, not a total overhaul of the proc and base stats on a "reskin"

[twoxc]

Don't care about the heal. Sts would say, That is why there is Curse Skull Gem which drain life LOL.

All I like to see is a better proc chance it's ridiculously low low low low. like really low. under the sewer low.

[Brownback]

I think Zeus just brought all stock from cs and is now asking for buff.

[Zeus]

Even with the super healing of the Elondrian bow, I still die in elites as it just can't keep up with the damage taken. Seriously "reskins" should be the same weapon in terms of stats and proc but just looks special. There really shouldn't have been a different proc nor extra DEX. The new bow shouldn't be buffed at all, or just make it the same as the Elondrian bow but maybe a ice bush instead of green. A color change should be good enough to make that bow valued slightly more, not a total overhaul of the proc and base stats on a "reskin"

Yep, should've kept it the way they did with Razorbacks & Nightmarish daggers. I don't mind that but since STG does not seem to be heading in that direction, I suggested ideas of my own.

@Twoc
Yes, yes, yes!

It's essentially same proc rate as L31 Mythic bow. We all remember how many of us complained about that proc. The only reason people are not now is because now they have investments.

[Titanium]

I love THOSE people from forum who don't need nothing. Easy to recognize them " nobody forces you to do use/buy/participate " . Or those who don't play Arcane Legends anymore and they are ALWAYS intrigued " buff again? are you serious? " or "nerf sns" . Lovely.


"Poor" vs "Rich"

Everybody was poor at some point . But yea.. nobody forces you to get richer. To be rich is so overrated these days. "Who needs arcane / mythics? " , "Anyone knows why recipe doesn't drop ? " , " Why boss one shoted me? I did something wrong? " , " Recolor arlor pls! " . Just saying

[Titanium]

About frost bow. Four weeks event. Are going to be 2x more frost bows than elondrian bows. I hope experts think about that too.. Before they are going to see any sort of conspiracy over the forum.

[Zeus]

About frost bow. Four weeks event. Are going to be 2x more frost bows than elondrian bows. I hope experts think about that too.. Before they are going to see any sort of conspiracy over the forum.

Exactly!

Why would anyone in their right mind buy out the bows now when more will continue to drop? The jealousy is unbelievable.

[Serancha]

About frost bow. Four weeks event. Are going to be 2x more frost bows than elondrian bows. I hope experts think about that too.. Before they are going to see any sort of conspiracy over the forum.

Actually elondrian bows were out for 4 weeks also, and that was during top plat farmer season. So given that info, the number of frost bows should end up being far less than elondrian.

[Zeus]

Actually elondrian bows were out for 4 weeks also, and that was during top plat farmer season. So given that info, the number of frost bows should end up being far less than elondrian.

3 weeks^