Do all the work and get nothing

**brims** · 02-10-2011, 02:54 AM

I am sick of killing the boss all by myself while others are dead on the floor and they get the pink item. DEV, Please make it so if you are the last man standing, you would get the pink item. This has haapen twice today whiling playing with Brucewaynehip and yesterday with Snub. And its items that I need too. Im very upset since I hardly get pinks and I have to waste all the health potions and money so others don't have to spend a dime and for therm not to boot me for not having pink gear on.

Honestly I am embarrassed of how much I've spent on this game.

I do all the work and get nothing in real like and games. I use to think I can play games to escape this for a bit but I guess not.

**Inching** · 02-10-2011, 02:59 AM

i think that your solution is a bit extream.... I think if you are dead, then you should not get drops. The ones standing are still random... that would be fair.

**Baked-Potato** · 02-10-2011, 03:13 AM

I think he meant if a pink drops, it goes to those who are still alive instead of the dead getting it. I like your solution though, and it would be easy since everyone gets their own individual roll. Just have those whose HP < 0 have a null roll.

**Corpser** · 02-10-2011, 03:22 AM

Bad idea it's not someones fault they die when boss is nearly dead if u where them would u Respawn and miss out. I doubt it so why stop others.

Also the drops are random and something I figured out. The person with the least deaths from that run has a higher chance of getting good drop.

**Kindread** · 02-10-2011, 03:40 AM

Making only the surviving member receive the pink will promote a whole bunch of shady last minute bootings and mages purposely not rezzing to secure their loot. Bad idea.

**recklessfa** · 02-10-2011, 03:41 AM

I sure did it too in the past, when I knew I couldn't make it back in time, but I agree.

had a lvl20 join us in BS while dealing with the boss, he died the second he got in the room without hitting the cockroach but I swear I knew he was about to get a pink and not us.

Not this time hopefully but happened a lot in the past.

back to the subject: I agree: dead=no cookie.
But keep it random since we wouldnt want to witness mages 'not noticing you died' behavior now, would we?
Make sense and it's fair.

**Baked-Potato** · 02-10-2011, 03:44 AM

Yes I would respawn. I do when there aren't mages because if there's only one, or two guys alive and, you have enough time to run back. Plus if he/they die also, the boss heals. Too many times have I been with a group where they die and watch me solo a boss. And Ten to one they'll get a better drop than me.

If its not getting loot, then just have their roll automatically drop to the worst loot possible if they are dead when the boss is killed.

**Tsarra** · 02-10-2011, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by recklessfa

I sure did it too in the past, when I knew I couldn't make it back in time, but I agree.

I've never gotten a pink from the floor like this, but I have done it a few times myself. In all seriousness, it shouldn't happen. Dead = no drop.

Also, it seems like I should actually get a pink every time one of you kills a boss, even if I'm not there. Seems only fair.

**Riccits** · 02-10-2011, 03:54 AM

i would like it too: death ppl=> NO LOOT

**Tennis** · 02-10-2011, 05:58 AM

Wait. You can get loot while dead?

**rku** · 02-10-2011, 05:58 AM

What if you're alive the entire fight, doing a lot of work and helping your team considerably, but at the last second the boss kills you right before he goes down. Are you really undeserving of any loot? I think someone else said earlier that this would also lead to some enchantresses not using revive

**Riccits** · 02-10-2011, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by rku

What if you're alive the entire fight, doing a lot of work and helping your team considerably, but at the last second the boss kills you right before he goes down. Are you really undeserving of any loot? I think someone else said earlier that this would also lead to some enchantresses not using revive

true too :-/

**Duke** · 02-10-2011, 06:45 AM

Yeah, a good portion of the time when I'm dead during a boss fight while playing my enchantress, it's because I put myself in harm's way to heal or rez someone else. I don't think I should be punished for that.

**recklessfa** · 02-10-2011, 07:20 AM

Which boss turn on you because you used res or heal?
You should say, my bear didn't try to get the aggro off me, hence I died. Thank you Teddy.

All I see is: It'll increase people awareness survivability bringing in a simple, common sense rule.

Of course there will be the case, I died just a second Before the boss, this s*cks.*
True. Just keep on doing what we're all trying to do: stay alive.
And If mages have nothing to gain from letting you lie on the floor, they won't.

Arf... Give it a lesser chance then, or a 30 second delay idk.
How useful am I anyway when I'm lying on the floor, stargazing instead of pulling my share of the effort?

**Lesrider** · 02-10-2011, 07:20 AM

Bad idea. People have already given several reasons why. So, bad idea.

**Ravenous** · 02-10-2011, 07:57 AM

Very bad idea. This game was made with death to be a certainty (unlike other games). Mages would have a huge advantage followed by warriors and archers would be the butt end of it.

**Gluttony** · 02-10-2011, 08:23 AM

This is a subject that I have wondered about for quite some time. I personally have had to solo Trash Heap, while the rest of my team lay dead so I understand why people feel this way. I don't have a solution, but watching someone die seconds into a boss fight and lay there waiting for it to be over seems like an issue to me.

The pinks for the last survivor does seem like it would open the door to all kinds of shady behavior (last second boots, refusals to revive, etc.) the drops should remain as random as they are, but I feel your pain.

I mean haven't you watched a player refuse to revive/respawn and help out, all just not to die again?

**Kujen** · 02-10-2011, 09:20 AM

Y'all need to to realize that whether you get a pink or not is completely independent of the other people in your group. You would have not gotten that pink whether that person was there or not. Everyone gets their own drop and their own roll to determine how good that drop is. It has nothing to do with who is in your group, that kind of thinking is what makes people boot before bosses are dead. Nobody stole your loot, they just had better luck than you.

Sorry, but I dont agree with your idea because it will result in people becoming fearful of aggro. Tanks won't taunt because they might die and get no pink. Birds and mages won't give it their all, because they might die and get no pink. And jerk mages might not Rez people, because they dont want that person to get a pink.