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    Default Huge crafting glitch/scam

    Ok, so I made a post wondering why some items I have don't actually show up checked off in the crafting screen, turns out that some people are getting scammed and don't actually know it. Here's how it works (I'm posting this in hope that people actually stop purchasing/trading items until this is fixed).

    As it turns out some green items and their recipes show up as the exact same item. Here is an example:

    Basic Magician's Wand; I don't have the materials for it but can Buy, so I click buy and suddenly I have it but actually I have the recipe and no real way to tell them apart except when crafting (or stashing).







    Here is example 2:

    I have 2 Basic Wing Shields, but only one was actually crafted and can be used to create something else. I can sell them both in CS. This is where people are getting scammed because one cannot be used to craft, just to create the wing shield.





    Proof that stashing is the only other way to tell if you have been scammed:





    I hope this helps some people and answers the question why some items that you actually own are not showing up checked off. I guess this thread goes out to the person who scammed me; not sure if you knew or not, but without you this all wouldn't be possible (at least until someone else noticed it).

    Edit: A possible solution would be to remove the recipe checkmark completely; make recipes drop (maybe a bit more often for lower level equipment) then the recipe gets added to your crafting list permanently. For instance, everyone starts with a blank crafting list. When you get a recipe drop it lists the items you need to create said item. You then find these items if you don't have them and create. As it is now the buy button on the crafting list is glitched (you can buy an extra without the materials, like a buy one get one free), so just remove it and only have the create button after all the materials are gathered. Recipes could be quest items (like the cyber quests for cyber items).
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    Hmm so that explains why I can't craft with them. Oh well.. I'll still need the recipes anyway right? Lol
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    So very true .......
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    Omg, thanks for point that out!!!

    So "gemstone setting" from CS is actually "gemstone setting recipe" which is free from forge.
    No wonder is doesnt check when we wanna craft.
    oMg omg, I have purchase tons of it from CS. The fellow name Moneybug.....He still selling tons of this in CS.
    dev pls pls do someting. < change the item name, and it should be untraceable. btw if it is free why we need one more complicated step to purchase again.

    OMG Omg, can't believe I was scammed by Moneybug. U awesome

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    This was the loophole I had found haha.


    Honestly, you can make around 100k easily in a day like this... depending how much you do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballersburden View Post
    This was the loophole I had found haha.


    Honestly, you can make around 100k easily in a day like this... depending how much you do it.
    Love it when people proudly declare taking part in an exploit. Hope the devs read your post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royce View Post
    Love it when people proudly declare taking part in an exploit. Hope the devs read your post
    I find it funny because he can't even edit his post now, since you quoted him

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    I said I had found this, I mentioned in chat that they can PM me.

    If anyone saw it was moneybug doing this over and over.

    I only have TWO aution slots. Moneybug has like all avaliable.


    If I were to want to do that, and actually take advantage of it I would have bought all auction slots I can and done it non-stop.

    It would take someone like me forever to do, I'm busy chasing pinks.


    But yes I agree, they should add something that distinguishes it from the one you can use to craft with so people don't mistakenly buy it thinking it's the other.
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    Yeah, thanks for that pointer, thankfully I only got scammed for about 5k and no more, I'll make sure to not buy any of that any more

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    They need to add the word "recipe" at the end of all recipes.

    When I actually make the item, I want to be able to sell it without people thinking it's the scam one selling for so much more... or I don't want them thinking they can get this item for free when it's the actual item and not the free recipe.

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    They let you sell 'free' recipes in the CS. That is clearly a bug and should be patched. They already 'distinguish' it by keeping you from stashing.
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    Glad I could help, spread the word! I'm hoping the devs fix this soon as there is already a distinction between the two (as Fluff pointed out) so a patch to change the names and add recipe seems to be a simple solution. Some people who haven't been informed are going to be quite displeased when they realize the 100k they sent on Gemstone Settings was all for nothing.

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    I would be cautious to spread the word as this could definitely be considered an exploit. The people selling know they should not be selling a free item. I would not be suprised if when a developer sees this and adds it to the list,'they remove this thread to prevent people copy catting this.

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    No wonder why I've been hearing so much hate against this. Never realised til a friend actually pointed out to me how bad this is.

    Shouldn't players caught doing this be banned? Its a straightforward scam/bug exploit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffNStuff View Post
    I would be cautious to spread the word as this could definitely be considered an exploit. The people selling know they should not be selling a free item. I would not be surprised if when a developer sees this and adds it to the list,'they remove this thread to prevent people copy catting this.
    I understand that starting threads like this is a double-edged sword, but I though educating people was a better than just allowing scammers to run rampant. If someone reads this and gets any "bright" ideas, I would hope the idea of a permanent ban would be a good deterrent. It's clearly an exploit that was overlooked in the patch and using it should have consequences. Guess this will be the end of my whistle blowing.

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    ffs. i bought several basic 1h steel blades and basic wands that i thought were surprisingly cheap.

    since this is a result from an obvious flaw in the game im not at all happy and i am pointing the finger towards the devs.

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    i may made 50k selling those items LOOOOOL

    yeah its a bad bug, plz fix it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riccits View Post
    i may made 50k selling those items LOOOOOL

    yeah its a bad bug, plz fix it!
    I think I remember you selling the Fine Plate Scrap. That should be fine since thats an actual ingredient for a recipe.

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    the fine plate/cloth/leather scrap u dont become for the crafter guy in BS but from the daily quests!

    i sold some basic items and gemstones.... noone will get rich with them... i just sell it bcz i become for free and have some spot in CS...
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    I think the obvious solution is to have all recipe items say "recipe" in the name. Some kind of shorhand designation like [R] would even work.



    There should already be different descriptions when you "preview" the item, right?
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