Twinking

[Caabatric]

If ur playing at an active level like 10-11, 15-17, etc. then ur not gonna be very competitive without a para and an arcane. There are so many players now with arcanes that you will probably just get swapped out for someone else a lot. Breeze(for war) or blinky can work as legendary pets but you will definitely want a para if ur using a legendary pet

Then it can't be said that para is not required to be competitive, or arcanes aren't required to be competitive......

[Arrowz]

Then it can't be said that para is not required to be competitive, or arcanes aren't required to be competitive......

You need atleast one of those, and its probably easiest as a warrior

[Astrea]

Guys i think we're going off the bait here.. We're talking about endgame and twink comparison not para-items and such gears. Just wanted to help out

[butterspar]

I have done twinkings too so Iam not an endgamer who has no idea about twinking.
Most of twink people denies they don't kill noobs.
Which is completely BS if you ask me.
People do guild wars but not everytime. Every twink guild pvper hunts foods (noobs) in spawn rooms. They kinda avoid hitting you if you are from a good guild and you are shining with your ice scale sets and para gems and have your arcane pet chasing you.

Does Twinking need skills?
Yes they need it. Twink clash and vs are fun.
But this is also true, one can get a great KDR easily from twinking.
Try endgame pvp and see if your kdr stays like 2000000:1

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Just gonna throw this out there, I don't farm noobs. It's boring AF and even when I tried to get a kill some rouge comes by and ks me. So I've given up on it. My kills are from clashes and vs. And I'm certain there are other tanks the have given up on it as well

[bedmaster]

people keep telling me legendary gear costing 500k-1.5m is enough to be competitive in pvp. (excluding pet) at level 13
well i happen to own a level 13 event rogue with gear costing roughly 800k (with pet malison, and haxonite) and well I got 1-2 combo for days....
Real competitive eh. (bear in mind this was against max gear players, which apparently a skilled player should have a shot to beat...)

Just to be clear, this is very similar to end-game gear differences...

800k should be enuf to be competitive if ur tank, rogue isnt very good at lower lvls if not arcane or para imo

My lv12 tank gear was 150k devo maul, i found a 200k blighted pot, 80k elon fitness, around 200k ancient set from a guildie and i can beat rogues with similiar gear

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[Caabatric]

But basically what we have established is (at least rogue) needs either a para or arcane pet to be competitive, just like end-game ...

[butterspar]

But basically what we have established is (at least rogue) needs either a para or arcane pet to be competitive, just like end-game ...

Either will work by themselves , but yes at least a para or arc pet is needed

[Astrea]

Either will work by themselves , but yes at least a para or arc pet is needed

Well you dont really need a para or arc pet cuz theres some legendary pet that is better than arc pet.

[Farminer's]

Then it can't be said that para is not required to be competitive, or arcanes aren't required to be competitive......

Para is not needed as I don't use one on my lvl 15 rogue. It does perfectly fine with my old set and maridos. 2.1k hp 140 damage 555 armor and 790 or so manna.

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[hallowring]

hazel is simaler for warr it adds 30+ str XD

[Xdumbx]

Para is not needed as I don't use one on my lvl 15 rogue. It does perfectly fine with my old set and maridos. 2.1k hp 140 damage 555 armor and 790 or so manna.

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If your tactics are good at lvl 15, you dont need para. If your tactics are not that good para is needed.

[Xdumbx]

hazel is simaler for warr it adds 30+ str XD

lol if you use hazal in pvp now days, you wont stand a chance. You have to remember most people have nekro, and other arcanes.

[CouchPass]

I wrekt with Talon on rouge and Hazel on Warr a few seasons ago.

[Quonabebi]

I have done both endgame pvp and twinking now this is my opinion if you want to endgame pvp go rogue its the most competitive.Warrior is really good now with new arcane mage can be good as well.But i am twinking now because i prefer fights that last more than a few seconds also both twinking and max level take skill but they take skill in different ways.

[Migos]

Dumbest thread I've ever read. You can't even compare the 2. Endgame BLATANTLY costs more and noob killing is at every level so don't try and act like noobs don't exist in endgame.