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    I think will devs only read our post and ignore us

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    Quote Originally Posted by extrapayah View Post
    sadly, kill stats is always prone to bot/dummy, and to be sure, botting case have to be solved case by case, and watching hundred thousands of players is not easy.

    stopping giving rewards for these stats can also help, imo.
    This.

    Botting is an unfortunate fact of life with today's gaming platforms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMORPG_bots

    It is tough, if not impossible, to actively police. We do take action on particularly egregious cases (like earlier this week), but we think the solution unfortunately may be to remove the leaderboards entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    This.

    Botting is an unfortunate fact of life with today's gaming platforms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMORPG_bots

    It is tough, if not impossible, to actively police. We do take action on particularly egregious cases (like earlier this week), but we think the solution unfortunately may be to remove the leaderboards entirely.
    Well i got rekt now :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    This.

    Botting is an unfortunate fact of life with today's gaming platforms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMORPG_bots

    It is tough, if not impossible, to actively police. We do take action on particularly egregious cases (like earlier this week), but we think the solution unfortunately may be to remove the leaderboards entirely.
    Yes I support removing the LB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    This.

    Botting is an unfortunate fact of life with today's gaming platforms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMORPG_bots

    It is tough, if not impossible, to actively police. We do take action on particularly egregious cases (like earlier this week), but we think the solution unfortunately may be to remove the leaderboards entirely.
    So a screenshot of players with 60.000 kills and only 5 deaths isnt enough to ban?
    Or getting 20k kills in a few hours isnt enough to ban?
    Well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    This.

    Botting is an unfortunate fact of life with today's gaming platforms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMORPG_bots

    It is tough, if not impossible, to actively police. We do take action on particularly egregious cases (like earlier this week), but we think the solution unfortunately may be to remove the leaderboards entirely.
    Then what about PvP dummy farming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmaresmoke View Post
    Then what about PvP dummy farming?
    Again, exceedingly hard to moderate, not just for us but for all game companies. We can remove that leaderboard as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    This.

    Botting is an unfortunate fact of life with today's gaming platforms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMORPG_bots

    It is tough, if not impossible, to actively police. We do take action on particularly egregious cases (like earlier this week), but we think the solution unfortunately may be to remove the leaderboards entirely.
    You have my +1 in this. Tough decision but this might end all this drama chaos happening ingame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    Again, exceedingly hard to moderate, not just for us but for all game companies. We can remove that leaderboard as well.
    It's really easy to spot PvP dummy farmers just by looking at their KDR example 10k kills with 100 deaths that's obviously a dummy farmer, and one thing about the PvP LB is that end game and twink records are combined not divided into their respective levels, seen level 10 twink who's on lb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    Again, exceedingly hard to moderate, not just for us but for all game companies. We can remove that leaderboard as well.
    I would support removing the leaderboard. It causes nothing but unneeded drama lol.

    But there could still be a leaderboard for events and other things that are impossible to bot. But please remove anything regarding kills. Even timed runs can fall victim to macrokey users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmaresmoke View Post
    It's really easy to spot PvP dummy farmers just by looking at their KDR example 10k kills with 100 deaths that's obviously a dummy farmer, and one thing about the PvP LB is that end game and twink records are combined not divided into their respective levels, seen level 10 twink who's on lb.

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    I'm out of thanks but I agree there should be a separate lb for twinks because putting them on the PvP lb with all the endgame players just isn't fair. Some players even think that twinking their kdr up at a twink level then leveling up to endgame is acceptable but it's not! I've stopped PvP pretty much 2 seasons ago due to the drama but I've always played endgame every season and all my achievements are done at endgame lvl so I can understand the frustration at twinks who dominate the ENDGAME LB!!

    Oh, sorry but if STS wipes clean my honest and hard-earned pves to start a new lb then I'm moving to another game! Maybe implement a fresh new seasonal leaderboard so that every player has a chance to be #1 for that particular season but keep the longtime Overall lb, just take botting accusations more seriously and follow that reported player for a few days!!

    Sure wish our posts would stop getting edited just because STS was criticized!!

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    Disable AL on PC and it should stop the botting issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathclaw View Post
    Disable AL on PC and it should stop the botting issue.
    That's actually a good idea AL PC version does have lots of advantages unlike phones and tablets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    This.

    Botting is an unfortunate fact of life with today's gaming platforms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMORPG_bots

    It is tough, if not impossible, to actively police. We do take action on particularly egregious cases (like earlier this week), but we think the solution unfortunately may be to remove the leaderboards entirely.
    This sounds more like a threat than a plausible solution to me. I would love to hear actual proposals and ideas for policing botters so the players in our community could discuss them instead of throwing out harsh finalities!

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    oh mah gawd u didnt just say removing the leaderboard.....
    Hire me as STS Bot/Dummy Farming police.
    LOL
    I did like the idea of separate division to investigate botters/farmers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathclaw View Post
    Disable AL on PC and it should stop the botting issue.
    Yes, awesome idea! I do believe this game was originally a moblie game not a PC game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoakre View Post
    Maybe implement a fresh new seasonal leaderboard so that every player has a chance to be #1 for that particular season but keep the longtime Overall lb, just take botting accusations more seriously and follow that reported player for a few days!!
    What a fresh and novel idea! Brilliant!


    Quote Originally Posted by Deathclaw View Post
    Disable AL on PC and it should stop the botting issue.
    If you think people can't bot on mobile devices, you're a bit behind the times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelllz View Post
    oh mah gawd u didnt just say removing the leaderboard.....
    Hire me as STS Bot/Dummy Farming police.
    LOL
    I did like the idea of separate division to investigate botters/farmers.
    They have a budget, you know...LB is the lesser of the priorities.

    Quote Originally Posted by leoakre View Post
    Yes, awesome idea! I do believe this game was originally a moblie game not a PC game!
    This would solve nothing. Android is a flavor of Linux, therefore, you can run scripts and bots on Android. If you don't believe me, take a look at Pocket Legends. it had bots when it was strictly a mobile only game.
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    Cough3 dummy lurking here lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by leoakre View Post
    I'm out of thanks but I agree there should be a separate lb for twinks because putting them on the PvP lb with all the endgame players just isn't fair. Some players even think that twinking their kdr up at a twink level then leveling up to endgame is acceptable but it's not! I've stopped PvP pretty much 2 seasons ago due to the drama but I've always played endgame every season and all my achievements are done at endgame lvl so I can understand the frustration at twinks who dominate the ENDGAME LB!!

    Oh, sorry but if STS wipes clean my honest and hard-earned pves to start a new lb then I'm moving to another game! Maybe implement a fresh new seasonal leaderboard so that every player has a chance to be #1 for that particular season but keep the longtime Overall lb, just take botting accusations more seriously and follow that reported player for a few days.
    Thank you Leo! I've been saying this since season 4-5 transition, when we started watching twinks "assaulting" PvP leaderboards. My case is particularly absurd, since I would be 1st on Captures LB since the end of season 4 (when Chiyuk stopped playing), if twinks had a different LB (I remember to see a guy getting around 7k in 3-4 days ..lol), and I'm 5th right now..probably 6th.. soon.. and guess why?? 4 twinks (and also dummy farmers) on the first 4 places lol...-.- Oh and btw I'm on TOP 5 Captures since 1st week of pvp, beginning of season 2 ..

    Same about Kills LB..as a warrior/tank, I got 31k legit kills over 8 seasons of CTF (counting with the present season) and I never went on Kills LB a single time...nuff said! -.- Nowadays, I believe I can only get 1-2 active warriors with more than me, legit kills of course! This isn't hard to understand when we look at Warriors' Kills LB and we see 25/25 dummy farmers, the majority of them - TWINKS. And this has been like this for many seasons..

    Nothing happened till now...and we are on the 9th season...

    Unfortunately, we can't dissociate twinks from cheaters or/and dummy farmers, since most of them ARE CHEATERS!

    I won't even talk about bots...already too much tragedy for 1 post..

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