PVP Updates: Proposed Balance Changes PART 2 (7/22/2016)

**resurrected** · 07-22-2016, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by intrepd

Even with the same damage as before rogues are going to die by curse if they nox? Go try it out? Grab 1 of ur team and 1 rogue against ask her to nox while u curse

I actually tested with friend curse nox and he was wearing blighted amulet(before nox buff) All i can say is rip rogue. DoT that comes back from curse and DoT that comes with amulet drain your hp fast. I talk of course from twink perspective cause none use blighted amulet in endgame anyway.

**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by extrapayah

as far as i know, return damage from curse (in this game) doesn't take account on how high/low the received damage is, as long as it's not zero damage, which i think is not right, because simply the punishment is not proportional

so, with the current curse/return damage system, this nox change is totally an upgrade/buff

The issue is that no mage uses curse now because there is no rogue to curse anyways mostly 3 mages, even if nox is buffed no rogue will nox against a curse mage that's just suicide, id rather swap nox to razors than nox a curse mage.

**Plqgue** · 07-22-2016, 05:32 PM

So back to rogue legends then?

**yubaraj** · 07-22-2016, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by intrepd

Even with the same damage as before rogues are going to die by curse if they nox? Go try it out? Grab 1 of ur team and 1 rogue against ask her to nox while u curse

Yes if they use nox while under curse. Yes if they don't know what is that cloud on top of their head. Yes if they don't know how curse works .
my question is why don't mage uses curse in endgame? Its so op right? And plz ask this question to other mages too

**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Plqgue

So back to rogue legends then?

You serious lol? Its not a useful buff anyways devs are doing their best so they need feedbacks, this buff will not even help, against a curse mage razors is better than curse.

**Zeus** · 07-22-2016, 05:36 PM

When you charge nox, which is what they're expecting you to do, curse becomes becomes extremely effective against this.

Regardless, this was already in place and it made no difference. The reason why I say it was already in place was because double damage was present when nox mastery existed. If you tried to do nox mastery in PvP, you would end up being a very dead rogue.

**resurrected** · 07-22-2016, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by yubaraj

Yes if they use nox while under curse. Yes if they don't know what is that cloud on top of their head. Yes if they don't know how curse works .
my question is why don't mage uses curse in endgame? Its so op right? And plz ask this question to other mages too

Answer is simple. Cause none is using rogue in clashes. Curse isn't so useful against mages and tanks.

**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by yubaraj

Yes if they use nox while under curse. Yes if they don't know what is that cloud on top of their head. Yes if they don't know how curse works .
my question is why don't mage uses curse in endgame? Its so op right? And plz ask this question to other mages too

I said it like 2-3 times there is no rogues in maxed clashes to begin with anyways why would they use curse then for a mage? All clashes are 3 mages 2 tanks, and oncr u nox a mage could just curse u after u nox and dots from nox can just end up killing u so it doesnt matter if u nox before curse or after

**Deathclaw** · 07-22-2016, 05:38 PM

None of this got tested yet people already made up their mind it sux, i think sts should implement this and see how it goes

**Plqgue** · 07-22-2016, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by intrepd

You serious lol? Its not a useful buff anyways devs are doing their best so they need feedbacks, this buff will not even help, against a curse mage razors is better than curse.

Mages don't use curse at endgame so what's your point

**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Deathclaw

None of this got tested yet people already made up their mind it sux, i think sts should implement this and see how it goes

I remember we had 2x dmg on nox before did we not?

**resurrected** · 07-22-2016, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Deathclaw

None of this got tested yet people already made up their mind it sux, i think sts should implement this and see how it goes

Actually STS should keep in mind things like that how it will affect gameplay and how it gonna be used. I think StS didn't thought that this buff can be used against rogues themselves. They just should play their own game and then starting nerf/buff/balance thingy.

**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Plqgue

Mages don't use curse at endgame so what's your point

Do you even read? There is no rogues in clash why would they use curse for no rogue? Its only good against rogues

**Zeus** · 07-22-2016, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Plqgue

Mages don't use curse at endgame so what's your point

They don't use curse at end game because there's never a rogue in team to fight against. This update will insure every single sorcerer is going to be using curse against rogue.

**resurrected** · 07-22-2016, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by intrepd

I remember we had 2x dmg on nox before did we not?

Indeed. There was bug in mastery nox that didn't made your nox dmg by 10% more or whatever but it just made your dmg double.

**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Plqgue

Mages don't use curse at endgame so what's your point

Dude look up already i answered this question 4 times
Curse is useless against mages and there are no rogues in clashes anyways give them 1 reason to use curse against mages? Rogues has no spot why would they use then? Just wait till nox is buffed no clash rogue will use it

**Plqgue** · 07-22-2016, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

They don't use curse at end game because there's never a rogue in team to fight against. This update will insure every single sorcerer is going to be using curse against rogue.

Is there anything you guys won't cry about? Get nerfed you cry
Bet buffed , you still cry
Damn sts can u guys just give them 10K base damage and 400% critical maybe a shield and 5000% dodge so they'll stfu already

**Deathclaw** · 07-22-2016, 05:46 PM

Curse has the longest cool down ability and the shortest range for a attack skill its one of the reason mages don't use that skill and will avoid using it , rouges can easily rejoin and attack while curse is still under cool-down. Rouges literally take not even 2 seconds to rejoin a clash with the speed set and pierce ability . Curse is also known to have a higher fail rate than any other skill.

**resurrected** · 07-22-2016, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Plqgue

Is there anything you guys won't cry about? Get nerfed you cry
Bet buffed , you still cry
Damn sts can u guys just give them 10K base damage and 400% critical maybe a shield and 5000% dodge so they'll stfu already

If you look from rogue PVP perspective this "buff" won't change anything.

**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Plqgue

Is there anything you guys won't cry about? Get nerfed you cry
Bet buffed , you still cry
Damn sts can u guys just give them 10K base damage and 400% critical maybe a shield and 5000% dodge so they'll stfu already

Even if its a buff it's going to be useless because no rogue will nox against curse instead they will razor, can u just get it already? Go play a rogue or get a friend and test nox curse vs him, once it poisons a team and get cursed its just GG for him/her