My thoughts on current state of Hydra

[alonehope]

as u all can see rouges just go hydra whit each other or their gf/bf

in this place we have lot mage and war whit out pt and some of them go random

and there is 2 mage and 2 war normally that raid take 10min in this time rouge pt run 10-12 time

in this case there is 2 way fix that problem whit buffing ds / bs proc and war

in normal pt if u have 2 normal rouge u can run in 1min and 10 sec

no matter what that 2 other class is then

pls fix it give all suggestion on fixing pls maybe devs can do it easier

[Alwarez]

Wow going random is a disaster...

You didn't seem to care when it was the case with rogues in mauso.

[slaaayerrr]

in this case there is 2 way fix that problem whit buffing ds / bs proc

lmao, these cheap mages again crying about outdated staffs

[alonehope]

Wow going random is a disaster...

You didn't seem to care when it was the case with rogues in mauso.

there was always place for rouge dude 1 war 2 mage was able to clear mus as 3/4 and 1 rouge could join my self always was going 2mage 1 war and 1 else . then dont say same way rouge never wasent useless even i pt 2 rouge and 1 war and 1 mage was cool
even 4 rouge is fast run in mus pls think what are u say

[alonehope]

lmao, these cheap mages again crying about outdated staffs

ok dont change staffs just buff us to dont need rouge there what is the way ?? except buff proc ?

[Noni]

@alonehope...you are on my FL, you were often in my party for maus runs. So, let me ask you this...wth happened to all the millions you and other mages like you made there? All this whining about raids, especially hydra is utter nonsense. How about instead of mages making such threads daily, they use that time to get better geared.

My hydra party is often tank, mage and 2 rogues. We have no trouble killing hydra fast because those are good, skilled players who are geared as lvl71 players should be. No, a player does not have to be a billionaire or a rogue to be able to run raids, just use a bit of that gold you made in maus to get some decent gear and pets that work better there.

I sometimes get invited to hydra parties with mages who are using egg rings, lucky pet and other similar stuff. When I suggest some changes to make the runs faster, some just get rude and throw “we are not rich like you” in my face and make lame excuses. The result is me leaving their party, which is then followed by an apology from them with the reason “using this for gold loot”.

Rather obvious who is at fault here. Nobody wants someone in their team who is selfish like that and a total burden. That also includes rogues with bad stats, not just mages and tanks. I would rather run with a good tank and mage than 2 useless rogues.

Rogues spend a lot on gear because rogue items are always expensive. We don’t throw tantrums about it on forums and pester the devs nonstop. So I suggest mages do the same. Stop making pointless threads and go get geared up for hydra, then invite us rogues

[QuaseT]

Tbh I dont want to use the old staffs again and again. Just make the new mage weapons useful for raids.

[Motherless_Child]

lmao, these cheap mages again crying about outdated staffs

Yeah.... Gear and stats are the issue.....

@alonehope...you are on my FL, you were often in my party for maus runs. So, let me ask you this...wth happened to all the millions you and other mages like you made there? All this whining about raids, especially hydra is utter nonsense. How about instead of mages making such threads daily, they use that time to get better geared.

My hydra party is often tank, mage and 2 rogues. We have no trouble killing hydra fast because those are good, skilled players who are geared as lvl71 players should be. No, a player does not have to be a billionaire or a rogue to be able to run raids, just use a bit of that gold you made in maus to get some decent gear and pets that work better there.

I sometimes get invited to hydra parties with mages who are using egg rings, lucky pet and other similar stuff. When I suggest some changes to make the runs faster, some just get rude and throw “we are not rich like you” in my face and make lame excuses. The result is me leaving their party, which is then followed by an apology from them with the reason “using this for gold loot”.

Rather obvious who is at fault here. Nobody wants someone in their team who is selfish like that and a total burden. That also includes rogues with bad stats, not just mages and tanks. I would rather run with a good tank and mage than 2 useless rogues.

Rogues spend a lot on gear because rogue items are always expensive. We don’t throw tantrums about it on forums and pester the devs nonstop. So I suggest mages do the same. Stop making pointless threads and go get geared up for hydra, then invite us rogues

Yeah... Gear and stats are the problem....

I say this because no one has yet to leave a Hydra map that i've ran (most of the time there is only 1 rogue, too)...... People are going to have to understand that when you are "incorrectly" built, you just become "extra weight" on the shoulders of the PT.... I've honestly tapped myself to death running maps with mages who want to walk around with outdated staffs and "warrior-like" stat builds just to "carry" them through maps (Partly why I mostly prefer solo, except during events)..... It's a REAL headache, which is why I always leave those maps that have PTs that consists of those "funny built" mages....... If you want to do a "me build", you are not going to experience a lot of "WE Time" (AKA, PT runs)......

[Alwarez]

lmao, these cheap mages again crying about outdated staffs

Op is probably one of these mages with ds, str build and expensive vanities:


Ofc rogues wont play with selfish peeps who use same weap since lvl46 cap

[PostNoob]

You do understand that they are having to change your stats on one specific map to stop the whining. When has that ever been done? Like, I've had my share of off times in AL but has this ever been done? Make a rogue if this map doesnt suit you, or work on your stats.

This is getting increasingly irritating.

[Thewolfbull]

Just make a rogue for farming hydra that's what i did and i'm not useless anymore xD

[flexible]

@alonehope...you are on my FL, you were often in my party for maus runs. So, let me ask you this...wth happened to all the millions you and other mages like you made there? All this whining about raids, especially hydra is utter nonsense. How about instead of mages making such threads daily, they use that time to get better geared.

My hydra party is often tank, mage and 2 rogues. We have no trouble killing hydra fast because those are good, skilled players who are geared as lvl71 players should be. No, a player does not have to be a billionaire or a rogue to be able to run raids, just use a bit of that gold you made in maus to get some decent gear and pets that work better there.

I sometimes get invited to hydra parties with mages who are using egg rings, lucky pet and other similar stuff. When I suggest some changes to make the runs faster, some just get rude and throw “we are not rich like you” in my face and make lame excuses. The result is me leaving their party, which is then followed by an apology from them with the reason “using this for gold loot”.

Rather obvious who is at fault here. Nobody wants someone in their team who is selfish like that and a total burden. That also includes rogues with bad stats, not just mages and tanks. I would rather run with a good tank and mage than 2 useless rogues.

Rogues spend a lot on gear because rogue items are always expensive. We don’t throw tantrums about it on forums and pester the devs nonstop. So I suggest mages do the same. Stop making pointless threads and go get geared up for hydra, then invite us rogues

You let me use gl tho! #nonicarry

[Oakmaiden]

Undergeared and overdressed is def a problem. I run randomly, checked a mage who was using SS in Hydra. His stats were so weak, he must have had a noxious set on. Its a single room map. What tf ya need a ss for? Lvl 71 pinks are practically free in cs.

[slaaayerrr]

ok dont change staffs just buff us to dont need rouge there what is the way ?? except buff proc ?

when u create thread like this again, PLEASE, add screenshot of ur stats/gears + how much bossdmg u have

[alonehope]

Just make a rogue for farming hydra that's what i did and i'm not useless anymore xD

i dont have that much time

[slaaayerrr]

i dont have that much time

have time for creating useless threads tho

[QuaseT]

I can confirm as a mage that we (or at least I ) dont get (m)any invites for parties which have rogs with equal stats. Sometimes i can create a party myself but thats not often too. My stats are good but they rather invite a rogue with 3k dmg than a mage with 5k dmg. Thats why im a fan of a huge buff if theres at least one war, mage n rog are playing together. Only for raids...

[oca]

As a mage I want to share my opinion same as those mages are there sharing them.
Whe mauso came all of the mages were happy because they were being useful and all of the rogues were there discussing about 'how useless rogues are", mages farmed a lot and rogues were there fighting for a buff or for something to help them.
And then this season came and we thought that were a "mage season" again, but then bs got nerf and ds too, rogues are happy because they came useful and then mages came useless, in forum we were/are asking for something to help or something that'd help us as the rogues did (op rogues did it in forum last season), rogues started to act like "we were useless last season", "we dind't have a pt last season", but they were there fighting for something, that's our time, we're there asking for something.
I agree with Qua when he says "we dont get (m)any invites for parties" and when he sad that he don't want to use the old staffs again and again, I don't want that either. Yesterday I was reading threads and saw someone saying about the buff thing that includes at least one war, one mage n a rogue in room, I liked it a lot because was a good idea and we all will have a balanced game again, please if you're a rogue you know that u fought for something as we are so don't say to us "shut up' or "create a rogue".
PS: This is for wars too, because some of my friends created a rogue too.

[matthew (flash)]

+1 buff mage and tank , nerf rogue they are nabs and uselessssssssssssssss

[mhysaa]

I'm a rogue, and I support you too. Cuz i also suffered a bit last season,and like it wasn't mages fault, neither rogues fault, actually it's up to spacetime. I just don't understand people complaining that mages are doing threads asking to sts fix it or make it better to mages. Many rogues complained here too last season. Where is the fair play? xD
I like to make jokes with my mages friends, but i think they have the right to ask here, why not? If Spacetimes will do something its another point, but the forum threads are here to this... make discussions about the game.