Unemployed Rogue with an apparent one of the best weap Ebon bow

[PsychoNuke]

Putting together fancy words does not make what you said true.

Just saying its not true is not enough, if you think what I said is false then you should provide proper counter and explination to it.
Everything I said is either discussed on forums before/ fact checked by devs and/or comes from experience.

Which part on that post you disagree with? and why? Please elaborate.

So higher number rogues imply all rogues are sitting on a mountain of gold?

I never said that, please read and understand the posts properly before quoting someone.

Rogue items are VERY EXPENSIVE because they are RARE and because of PRICE MANIPULATION.
You have doubts about rarity? All those mire and arcane drops from hydra, if you would be so kind check the drop rates you would find shadow items are the rarest and it is not because there are more buyers. It is simply because shadow drop is very very rare and someone even had to post a screenshot on forums months ago to confirm that shadow mire arti drop in hydra is not a myth.

Rogues are Rare? You mean Rogues Items are rare?
Shadow gear drops in Infested not in Hydra(unless they added them to hydra too), before you blame things on Rarity and RNG atleast try to farm in right maps.
Or are you only speculating because you dont see those gears in the Auction house? Well try to look for Mind/Force Ring, Pendent and Belt in Auction house too.
This has beed confirmed by devs that the drop chances of all gears are equal, its just RNG.

Price manipulation affects every class the same way. If every player decide not to pay for the over priced item then the seller has to sell the item cheap/at right price. But then that not how it works, isnt it?

Not saying that other classes don't work hard. Everyone who wants the best and wants to be the best works hard. It is just pathetic to see the kind of hatred people harbor for the rogue class. We have to put in extra effort and probably wait years for certain gears which the other classes can afford in months.

No body hates Rogues, we (I personaly) just hate speculations.
The issues you are facing right now with shortage of gears and expensive prices is simply caused because there are more mouths to feed. The class population was somewhat balanced in Nightmare expansion, and the prices of nightmare set were almost same depending on the rarity for every class. I mean atleast the difference was not 30m - 90m.

Solution?: Class balance. Give the freedom to players to play their favorite class, and not forcing/restricting them to switch to a specific class just because one is better than other. Everyclass has their USP, the problem is that the current content is damage friendly. So the changes needs to happen both ways in PVE.

[Bundlos]

Just saying its not true is not enough, if you think what I said is false then you should provide proper counter and explination to it.
Everything I said is either discussed on forums before/ fact checked by devs and/or comes from experience.

Which part on that post you disagree with? and why? Please elaborate.



I never said that, please read and understand the posts properly before quoting someone.



Rogues are Rare? You mean Rogues Items are rare?
Shadow gear drops in Infested not in Hydra(unless they added them to hydra too), before you blame things on Rarity and RNG atleast try to farm in right maps.
Or are you only speculating because you dont see those gears in the Auction house? Well try to look for Mind/Force Ring, Pendent and Belt in Auction house too.
This has beed confirmed by devs that the drop chances of all gears are equal, its just RNG.

Price manipulation affects every class the same way. If every player decide not to pay for the over priced item then the seller has to sell the item cheap/at right price. But then that not how it works, isnt it?


No body hates Rogues, we (I personaly) just hate speculations.
The issues you are facing right now with shortage of gears and expensive prices is simply caused because there are more mouths to feed. The class population was somewhat balanced in Nightmare expansion, and the prices of nightmare set were almost same depending on the rarity for every class. I mean atleast the difference was not 30m - 90m.

Solution?: Class balance. Give the freedom to players to play their favorite class, and not forcing/restricting them to switch to a specific class just because one is better than other. Everyclass has their USP, the problem is that the current content is damage friendly. So the changes needs to happen both ways in PVE.

https://www.spacetimestudios.com/sho...pdate-(259115)

Visit this link. Evidence enough? (The third bullet point). I think you should revise your facts before telling me that I am looking at the wrong map

Another reason I say it is rare is because I know loads of people who constantly run hydra. I would like to mention here that this one specific individual ran hydra all week and dropped 6-7 mire items, and one arcane amulet (all mage and warrior class). I know this is not fake information because I have screenshots of all the drops. It is too good to be a coincidence that all the drops received by people I know have all been mage or warrior class. That pushes me to say rogue items are rare. As far as belt and ring are concerned they don't drop from maps so of course they will be rare for all.

[Agnes]

https://www.spacetimestudios.com/sho...pdate-(259115)

Visit this link. Evidence enough? (The third bullet point). I think you should revise your facts before telling me that I am looking at the wrong map

Another reason I say it is rare is because I know loads of people who constantly run hydra. I would like to mention here that this one specific individual ran hydra all week and dropped 6-7 mire items, and one arcane amulet (all mage and warrior class). I know this is not fake information because I have screenshots of all the drops. It is too good to be a coincidence that all the drops received by people I know have all been mage or warrior class. That pushes me to say rogue items are rare. As far as belt and ring are concerned they don't drop from maps so of course they will be rare for all.

From hydra. Friend looted shadow arti there also.

[Fightbeast]

From hydra. Friend looted shadow arti there also.

Oops! looks like someone had to eat their words. Agnes, how dare you humiliate our dear 'Forum Hero' who probably doesnt play the game, but rather argue hopelessly here in forums
"Just saying its not true is not enough, if you think what I said is false then you should provide proper counter and explination to it.
Everything I said is either discussed on forums before/ fact checked by devs and/or comes from experience"

Although off topic bit I ll just address them before going on; Rogues definitely have more expensive gears in game because there are ore rogs in game and demand is more. That certainly doesnt mean that their drop rate should be boosted. But I would like to think that at least drop rate of items should be at par with the other sets. Why make rog items rarer than others. It makes no sense. And the difference in luck of dropping items too is a different topic but a necessary one. Some keep dropping all throughout their AL lives, others struggle but never drop anything. It discourages them from trying again the next time.

Going back to OP's post, he/she didnt attack any certain class. They just wanted their own wep boosted in par with what the weapon was worth. If we were to compare the other ebon weps, wars have the best weap followed by mages and rogs. Bows currently are the least preferred among all 6. M5-M6 are 2 seasons old maps. And Although scaled they deserve to be at least a map which is doable with comparative ease. Drag staff was 46, Immortal staff and bow were 56, but they were still useful in these maps. So a 71 arc should definitely wreck damage there. And as OP said, there are PvE players too in game. And they could care less about PvP. So if some changes are to be bought to the wep/s try to bring them about so that they dont harm either of the arenas of gameplay.

p.s - I love how war aegis makes them useful. They had to wait a long time and i hope sts doesnt take it away from them because of two other classes squabbling.

[PsychoNuke]

Oops! looks like someone had to eat their words. Agnes, how dare you humiliate our dear 'Forum Hero' who probably doesnt play the game, but rather argue hopelessly here in forums
"Just saying its not true is not enough, if you think what I said is false then you should provide proper counter and explination to it.
Everything I said is either discussed on forums before/ fact checked by devs and/or comes from experience"

Please read the 6th line on post#39 properly, the brackets mentions the doubt. And then read Post#43. and then try to understand the Bold, may be you realize where I am coming from.

Also, the quote you used is from a different context, but hey why do you care? You just have to use anything you find to say anything you like.

+@Bundlos.

[Narana.Solarie]

Going back to OP's post, he/she didnt attack any certain class. They just wanted their own wep boosted in par with what the weapon was worth. If we were to compare the other ebon weps, wars have the best weap followed by mages and rogs. Bows currently are the least preferred among all 6. M5-M6 are 2 seasons old maps. And Although scaled they deserve to be at least a map which is doable with comparative ease. Drag staff was 46, Immortal staff and bow were 56, but they were still useful in these maps. So a 71 arc should definitely wreck damage there. And as OP said, there are PvE players too in game. And they could care less about PvP. So if some changes are to be bought to the wep/s try to bring them about so that they dont harm either of the arenas of gameplay.

p.s - I love how war aegis makes them useful. They had to wait a long time and i hope sts doesnt take it away from them because of two other classes squabbling.

Thank you for making it easier to understand my point lol


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[Bundlos]

From hydra. Friend looted shadow arti there also.

Thank you so much for adding to the evidence <3