pvp kill farming (no hate just asking)

[snakeeyes]

what if they talk like this?

player x: im selling my deaths for 10k each. player y: im buying kill for 10k each for my aps.
player y: im ganna pay you after your 10k deaths?
player x: ok deal.

after 30sec
player z enter the tdm because he want to experience pvp on tdm but player y shout that dont kill player x i pay for his deaths. then player y said "get out of here because you're wasting our time and my kills" now isn't it against tos?

is'nt tdm create for battle experience not for manipulate the kill and deaths?

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[Encryptions]

Its against tos to buy kills.

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[Analytical]

Its against tos to buy kills.

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Where is this explicitly stated?

Last I checked it was in the grey area where dev didn't exactly specify it is a violation but more like dishonorable?

No offence, just a genuine question.

[Encryptions]

Where is this explicitly stated?

Last I checked it was in the grey area where dev didn't exactly specify it is a violation but more like dishonorable?

No offence, just a genuine question.

Buying kills is against. Usually dummy farming isn't, but I can't trust sts when they say things in such a way that it seems ok when its not. Asking sts a yes or no question gets you a yes but truly no answer.
I am not the one who was banned in the photo.

[papas]

7day bann isn't a solution. It can be done again n again after 7days. It should be ofc not a perma bann. But maybe a reset of pvp kills. I think somethin similar happened when ppl got extremely high pve kills like many millions. Not sure abt that tho, is somethin a friend told me happened.

Only advantage u get from this is flex maybe or improve guild rank? But what's the meaning getin better rank in guild lb when it's not legit.


In the past, lb which got exploited by dummy farming , like pvp kills was removed. Maybe is time for sts to think over remove this section over guild lb rank?

Just a thought. Guild lb isn't somethin that many ppl care anyway.


Ps. Till there are aps for pvp kills, ofc ppl will keep doing this for 10k kills. That's normal.


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[gobbels]

nobody knows anything weather pvp kill farming is allowed or not, only thing i know (what happens to be sad) ppl farm kills to get aps. Only gods know like @cinco ??

[Naaabmage]

So....is using a dummy to get 10k pvp kills safe? I wanna know

[gilsooon]

I think pvp aps should be removed.

[nevercan]

I think pvp aps should be removed.

or remove aps from pvp kills, like they did with flags
this will remove most of the incentive there currently is to kill farm in pvp

[capeo]

It used to be safe. I think the most recent bans where because of guild rank more then pvp dummy farming specifically. I hope people have to earn it but that isn't how things have been so idk.

[papas]

It used to be safe. I think the most recent bans where because of guild rank more then pvp dummy farming specifically. I hope people have to earn it but that isn't how things have been so idk.

But how this will fix things when 7day ban is happening. After that ppl can keep doing it right? Still they got their illegit Rankin

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[Neutrone]

But how this will fix things when 7day ban is happening. After that ppl can keep doing it right? Still they got their illegit Rankin

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Not really, those first temporary bans are usually a warning, if you repeat the offense again it would lead to either a much longer ban or in most cases, a permanent ban.

[papas]

Not really, those first temporary bans are usually a warning, if you repeat the offense again it would lead to either a much longer ban or in most cases, a permanent ban.

Oh that's nice. I agree should not get perma banned over this,so a warning before perma ban could work. Tho someone else could do same amd he gets also same first warning. Still illegit boost stays from one's alrd got warning. Should be better if those confirmed dummy kills got reset as punishment, or remove pvp kills out of rankings. 2nd would not be a fair one to those who got their kills for real clashes like years ago tho.

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[Boosterio]

Yes, I think same

[Aldous]

+1 to removal of PvP APs and its bearing to guild ranks. Also pls do a mass ban to those guilds who are desperately trying to dummy farm just to keep the guild rank up. This is clearly done with malicious intent and there's been a surge of them recently....it's just sad to see that there's nothing being done to preserve whatever is left of leaderboard's integrity. Not going to mention any... ya'll know who you are

[umarrahim]

Idk, unless the PvP APs are removed, dummy farming should be allowed upto 10k PvP.

There's no other way to get 10k PvP without dummying. PvP maps are almost always empty. And I personally don't like the RNG with gear procs either.

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[Repent]

Dummy farming has been ok for a while now but I think some people are doing a lot more than necessary. (100k+ pvp kills c’mon now)

As we all know most people just do their 10k kills for APs and never touch pvp again. Most seasonal character dummy at least a 100 kills and some will even do the 10k.

I personally have dummy farmed myself and was informed it was ok at the time. Regardless of the incentive to dummy farm you will be increasing your said guilds ranking since you are gaining APs regardless and ofc more pvp kills too.

It would be quite harsh to punish everyone who has dummy farmed and honestly most lb players would be punished. (ofc some did it legit but that was back when pvp was alive).

Anyways those are just my thoughts on this issue. -Atoned

[Yoloswagx]

remove pvp aps, easy solution

At this point there wont be any incentives


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[BaronB]

If 2 people want to sit for hours giving each other a load of kills... more for them. I see it like those sitting there farming millions of pve kills.. lool behave each to there own.

If people sitting there playing by themselves using 3rd party apps etc that's another story.

I've had 10+ people help me fix my rekted kdr and I've also sat and given people kills so their chars can get the aps be it normal or hc... so besides sitting afk guess I'm a "dummy" as well =/

How people wish to sit and burn away their time with friends in game should be up to them also be up to them.


Long as isn't some kind of "bot/app/etc" involved its each to their own.


Personally, I miss a good old bit of PVP, maybe even incorporating pvp kills into honor would actually be a better idea and something I'm sure I've even suggested before as well =/


If you can find the friends that going to help you achieve something then happy days.

If you resort to doing something against TOS then of course ban.

For those who are interested here is the important bit that's relevant.

USE OF THE SERVICES
Personal Use. section (i).
Spacetime Studios Terms of Service

You further agree that you will not use any automated devices, such as spiders, robots or data mining techniques to catalog, download, store or otherwise reproduce, store or distribute content available on the Spacetime Applications, or to manipulate the Spacetime Applications.

It's like if someone wants to sell kills/deaths, or sell invites to a rare boss ap...

Might frown upon or disagree depending on what your own views are but it isn't anything actually wrong and just trying to impose your own views upon others that are doing their own thing that isn't anything that's breaking TOS is rather lack of a better word "ignorant".



Always love a good discussion!

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[Aldous]

Getting that Warmonger AP is perhaps reasonable as there's no other way to get them but the thing is... it's not even about APs anymore, some individuals were making hundreds of thousands of PvP kills and for what? Lol. The motive is pretty obvious. But oh well, I guess it's one of the things we condone to remain on top right? Absolute farce