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    I find it hilarious some people think they do it for us. If it was for us they would have scheduled according to the vote. Its a business. They do it for money. Hence the mad dash to the cap before the raise. Love bluuuue
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    Quote Originally Posted by iamnobody View Post
    Well, thx for your info. It is my bad that I misunderstand what is the meaning of "in time" and "within 3 weeks" = "<10 days". I deserved spent plats for nothing. Thx for your supporting.
    Proves the point.
    Also very funny.

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    You're a Star Guard? What makes you deserving? This doesn't seem like the standards I thought were expected.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaltiar View Post
    Where's the false information? Sts stated 'within' 3 weeks, and 'in time for' thanksgiving, never said it would be out exactly on 24th.
    Kthxbai

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    Guardian? Again, why do you deserve it? Aren't Guardians, Star Guards, supposed to be the leaders and diplomats? Not the head trolls?
    Quote Originally Posted by StompArtist View Post
    Am I the only one finding it hilarious that people are going to complain about a level cap raise no matter what the release date is? Heck. How dare STS not work around MY schedule!
    Redbridge, you state my feelings very well. STS didn't respect their customers here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redbridge View Post
    I'm hoping my sarcasm radar if a bit off... but are you seriously suggesting its hilarious that people want to complain?


    Personally, I'm genuinely disappointed with the timing of the release and am gonna defend my right to give STS some feedback on the matter.


    I had my expectations set by STS, had set aside three days solid well in advance of the 24th, had a heap of plat and the goal of the vanity shield. That sadly isn't gonna happen now and I'll not have the chance for the vanity so I think I have every right to say why I'm disappointed and raise the issue on the appropriate thread. (for info I've gone into more detail directly to STS)


    You have one view and I have a differing one, that's what makes the world such a beautiful place, but the problems only arise when people don't respect each others view. I'm not saying you need to agree but at least respect their view and show some sort of empathy and maybe even some valid reasons why you don't agree.


    Frankly, I find it astonishing that people haven't been more understanding of the people who hadn't quite reached 61. I'm relatively lucky, I still have my plat, but many people don't.


    Could I point you in the direction of this thread which highlights exactly why there are so many people worried about posting on the forums. Comments like this arent going to encourage people to speak honestly and give STS balanced feedback, both positive and negative.


    I'm disappointed you think it's hilarious that people have been unfortunate with the timing of the release and want to raise this with STS. It's this kind of feedback that allows STS to manage the next release better, to reduce the amount of people negatively effected and to improve the game for the future.


    I'm not going to comment any further but feel free to PM me if you want to know the reasons I haven't levelled previously or are vaguely interested in understanding my view.
    And finally, I refer you to my other post:
    http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...240#post483240
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    Quote Originally Posted by n00b13st View Post
    You're a Star Guard? Kthxbai.
    What does that have to do with anything? You're the type of people that create these illusions of elitism in the forum. He's an SG, so what? He can't have an opinion?

    You're a member? Kthxbai.

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    I had the impression that Guardians and Star Guards were expected to reach higher standards. Do the announcements for new guardians, guards, ambassadors give some other impression?

    Sure, he can have an opinion - but I expect better manners from someone who is appointed to a position of...representing the best of STS players.

    I'm sorry Elly, I'd come to expect better from you as well. I'd have thought you'd be on the side of supportive, manners, all that Guardians/Guards stand for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    What does that have to do with anything? You're the type of people that create these illusions of elitism in the forum. He's an SG, so what? He can't have an opinion?

    You're a member? Kthxbai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n00b13st View Post
    I had the impression that Guardians and Star Guards were expected to reach higher standards. Do the announcements for new guardians, guards, ambassadors give some other impression?

    Sure, he can have an opinion - but I expect better manners from someone who is appointed to a position of...representing the best of STS players.

    I'm sorry Elly, I'd come to expect better from you as well. I'd have thought you'd be on the side of supportive, manners, all that Guardians/Guards stand for.
    You saw the post Zal was responding to right? How rude/rage-filled was that versus the post of Zal? He said "Kthxbai" - Okay thanks bye, how is that in any way related to anything that an SG/GoA is supposed to say?

    I see what you mean now. Being a GoA/SG means that your personality also be removed and turned into an automated, monotonous, and generic attitude.

    Thanks for your opinion.

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    Here's the post he was replying to and his reply.
    Originally Posted by iamnobody
    WTH? Is it suppose to be launch on 24Nov? I hv 12k xp left to 61.... And just spent many plat prepare to hit the cap next week, BUT not today!!! Now I have spent the plat for nothing just because your false announcement http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...-Are-You-Ready
    OK I will quit. Not Will. I am quitting NOW. BTW, I still have 30 plats in my pocket. Keep it.



    Where's the false information? Sts stated 'within' 3 weeks, and 'in time for' thanksgiving, never said it would be out exactly on 24th.
    Kthxbai

    This was rude to who? STS? For the poor treatment of their customers that has many of us upset? I see justifiable upset, not rage. I see statement of how it impacted him, not rude. If SG/GoA/AoA means nothing then it shouldn't exist. What I do see is that in almost every other case I can point to, the "Guards" (all roles) behave as I'd think they should - measured, polite, supportive. This is the job you signed up for. If you want to gripe openly and freely, get another forum login - I would understand. I think I deserve more from a guard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    You saw the post Zal was responding to right? How rude/rage-filled was that versus the post of Zal? He said "Kthxbai" - Okay thanks bye, how is that in any way related to anything that an SG/GoA is supposed to say?

    I see what you mean now. Being a GoA/SG means that your personality also be removed and turned into an automated, monotonous, and generic attitude.

    Thanks for your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n00b13st View Post

    This was rude to who? STS? For the poor treatment of their customers that has many of us upset? I see justifiable upset, not rage. I see statement of how it impacted him, not rude. If SG/GoA/AoA means nothing then it shouldn't exist. What I do see is that in almost every other case I can point to, the "Guards" (all roles) behave as I'd think they should - measured, polite, supportive. This is the job you signed up for. If you want to gripe openly and freely, get another forum login - I would understand. I think I deserve more from a guard.
    How is this poor treatment? That they released new content for everyone to enjoy? The way I look at it, if they release it now, some people aren't pleased. You release it later, other people aren't pleased. Either way, you cannot please everyone. Would you have preferred that they release the content based on accounts instead? Then you'd get people displeased about why they released only to some accounts. You cannot please everyone.

    This isn't a job. This isn't a job we signed up for. A job means we get paid. A job means we applied for it. Neither of which we did. Please, get your facts straight before pointing the finger.

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    Okay, I will say it in public. Expectations for how these roles are supposed to be represented have been made clear. If you don't want to live up to it, resign. It's not an attack, if the role is a burden (as I've decided it would be for me) then cast it off. I've almost never seen an SG/GoA/AoA behave as a poor representative of the community. It is a role of service, one that is supposed to be gladly filled - not a job, or else they are taking advantage of you.

    As for the poor treatment - the poor treatment is lack of notice. I posted on this. They should let us know - it's not that hard. I live the life of scheduled releases and Apple, Microsoft, all the companies that stay around do it. It's better for us to tell them "Treat me, your paying customer, right!" than to have them fail in a couple years and have analysts say "They should have...".

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    How is this poor treatment? That they released new content for everyone to enjoy? The way I look at it, if they release it now, some people aren't pleased. You release it later, other people aren't pleased. Either way, you cannot please everyone. Would you have preferred that they release the content based on accounts instead? Then you'd get people displeased about why they released only to some accounts. You cannot please everyone.

    This isn't a job. This isn't a job we signed up for. A job means we get paid. A job means we applied for it. Neither of which we did. Please, get your facts straight before pointing the finger.
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    I really feel sympathy for those who tried to reach cap to get their vanity shield but mt fang was "sudden released". I have my vanity crown and shield actually but feels me bad for the others. I know sts have their own reason for this and this forum is a good way to clarify things. They said 3 weeks to go for lvl 61 but i think it was not 3 weeks but correct me if im wrong. Anyway hope players affected will still play to get a new vanity item at 66!

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    Quote Originally Posted by n00b13st View Post
    Okay, I will say it in public. Expectations for how these roles are supposed to be represented have been made clear. If you don't want to live up to it, resign. It's not an attack, if the role is a burden (as I've decided it would be for me) then cast it off. I've almost never seen an SG/GoA/AoA behave as a poor representative of the community. It is a role of service, one that is supposed to be gladly filled - not a job, or else they are taking advantage of you.
    Oh, you didn't tell me you were working for STS! Thanks for the new guidelines!

    << Notice the title and avatar? Yeah, nothing there.


    As for the poor treatment - the poor treatment is lack of notice. I posted on this. They should let us know - it's not that hard. I live the life of scheduled releases and Apple, Microsoft, all the companies that stay around do it. It's better for us to tell them "Treat me, your paying customer, right!" than to have them fail in a couple years and have analysts say "They should have...".
    http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?41714-Less-Than-3-Weeks-to-Mount-Fang-and-New-Level-Cap-Are-You-Ready

    An announcement as to by when the update comes out sure is lack of notice.

    I would suggest reading properly next time. Less than 3 weeks. < 3 weeks. Not In three weeks, = 3 weeks. They could have released it the day after the announcement and still be valid.

    If players are really displeased, why do the servers seem to be overloaded from the amount of players logging in/logged in? Why do we have a 66 after the first 24 hours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elf-Orc-Naga View Post
    I really feel sympathy for those who tried to reach cap to get their vanity shield but mt fang was "sudden released". I have my vanity crown and shield actually but feels me bad for the others. I know sts have their own reason for this and this forum is a good way to clarify things. They said 3 weeks to go for lvl 61 but i think it was not 3 weeks but correct me if im wrong. Anyway hope players affected will still play to get a new vanity item at 66!
    I sympathize for them as well, must suck to be so close yet have it taken away from you, but nobody is at fault here. Like mentioned, STS never said it would be in 3 weeks. In fact, it said less than three weeks. It's not the player's fault for trying to 61, nor is it STS' for releasing the content. It's just unfortunate.
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    I thank you Elf-Orc-Naga.

    And I don't think Elly and I really have a deep disagreement. Rather than post more times here I'll just say I think we both have feelings. I understand where you're coming from and I hope you can understand where I'm coming from.

    Thank you again Elf - your post is a nice splash of cool water.

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    I really feel sympathy for those who tried to reach cap to get their vanity shield but mt fang was "sudden released". I have my vanity crown and shield actually but feels me bad for the others. I know sts have their own reason for this and this forum is a good way to clarify things. They said 3 weeks to go for lvl 61 but i think it was not 3 weeks but correct me if im wrong. Anyway hope players affected will still play to get a new vanity item at 66!
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    Quote Originally Posted by n00b13st View Post

    And I don't think Elly and I really have a deep disagreement. Rather than post more times here I'll just say I think we both have feelings. I understand where you're coming from and I hope you can understand where I'm coming from.
    I do, and I'm glad to hear that you know where I'm coming from.

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    Where's the false information? Sts stated 'within' 3 weeks, and 'in time for' thanksgiving, never said it would be out exactly on 24th.
    Kthxbai

    This was rude to who? STS? For the poor treatment of their customers that has many of us upset? I see justifiable upset, not rage. I see statement of how it impacted him, not rude. If SG/GoA/AoA means nothing then it shouldn't exist. What I do see is that in almost every other case I can point to, the "Guards" (all roles) behave as I'd think they should - measured, polite, supportive. This is the job you signed up for. If you want to gripe openly and freely, get another forum login - I would understand. I think I deserve more from a guard.[/QUOTE]

    it was supposed to come out ages ago but they changed it to please the community you cant please everyone they cant just think of you people will complain that its taking to long. the release has been delayed a month for people like you and me they didnt just decide to release it now they would have thought of it. they have there reasons.

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    I'm sorry you're unhappy Elly. I still value all the guides/posts you've contributed that have helped so much. I'm sorry you are apparently (from what you are pointing out) no longer GoA - I take no meaning from that but can understand if it has something to do with how you seem to feel.

    STS would be the last to say "I told you it would be within 3 weeks so anything less than 3 weeks is fair game!" (It is the disgruntled players saying that. They can give specific dates.) We're not disagreeing about the lack of notice, just about how Zal posted.

    I don't see more to be gained from further replies to this part of the thread, I hope by dropping it we can gain more, or lose less.


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    << Notice the title and avatar? Yeah, nothing there.




    http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?41714-Less-Than-3-Weeks-to-Mount-Fang-and-New-Level-Cap-Are-You-Ready

    An announcement as to by when the update comes out sure is lack of notice.

    I would suggest reading properly next time. Less than 3 weeks. < 3 weeks. Not In three weeks, = 3 weeks. They could have released it the day after the announcement and still be valid.

    If players are really displeased, why do the servers seem to be overloaded from the amount of players logging in/logged in? Why do we have a 66 after the first 24 hours?



    I sympathize for them as well, must suck to be so close yet have it taken away from you, but nobody is at fault here. Like mentioned, STS never said it would be in 3 weeks. In fact, it said less than three weeks. It's not the player's fault for trying to 61, nor is it STS' for releasing the content. It's just unfortunate.
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    everyone just stop complaining and deal with it just be thankful that sts could create and release something
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    Where does "ages ago" come from Corpser? The teasers from the previous release when people were begging for it to come out "now, now, now"? And some people (in the survey, go back to before you joined) were asking for as late as February 2012? The thread quoted above said "by Thanksgiving". As for timing, all I ask is that they tell us precisely, more or less (as in 'no sooner than'), when it will be out. Release all the levels to 100 in the next 2 weeks, that's fine -I'll come back after they're out and then work on a predictable timeline. The issue is, just like with the "events" - 'Hi all, we had an event last weekend where you didn't get to join in cuz we didn't tell you!', we didn't know when to plan.

    I have a job, a wife, I plan - and I have money to spend here. I will only continue to spend money if I'm valued as a customer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corpser View Post
    Where's the false information? Sts stated 'within' 3 weeks, and 'in time for' thanksgiving, never said it would be out exactly on 24th.
    Kthxbai

    This was rude to who? STS? For the poor treatment of their customers that has many of us upset? I see justifiable upset, not rage. I see statement of how it impacted him, not rude. If SG/GoA/AoA means nothing then it shouldn't exist. What I do see is that in almost every other case I can point to, the "Guards" (all roles) behave as I'd think they should - measured, polite, supportive. This is the job you signed up for. If you want to gripe openly and freely, get another forum login - I would understand. I think I deserve more from a guard.
    it was supposed to come out ages ago but they changed it to please the community you cant please everyone they cant just think of you people will complain that its taking to long. the release has been delayed a month for people like you and me they didnt just decide to release it now they would have thought of it. they have there reasons.[/QUOTE]
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    Elly is one of the respected and might be one of the best players here so i do not argue with him. I just wanted to point out that devs should have utilized the forum as well. Saying less than three weeks is a subset of saying less than a year. Theres a vague implication of less than if i were them ill use the content will be updated sooner at least after xxx weeks. Well just imo. Sorry for off topic. The boss is hard to kill and really challenging very nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrington View Post
    everyone just stop complaining and deal with it just be thankful that sts could create and release something
    Our critics and appreciation are okay. Thats the forum for. Everybody learns and this will improve pl better and better in the future. I love sts and their games. enjoy everyone!
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