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    Quote Originally Posted by Paar View Post
    Exactly! Just Leave or Boot , Because once you start rushin theres no turning back!
    LOL?!

    So when there would be no host to boot (which happens quite often), than I am supposed to leave the arena because I can't touch the rusher?!?

    And what is this "no turning back"? When you fight back you will be a rusher yourself for ever after? :P

    Seriously, if they ask for it I will give it to them, and I will enjoy it.
    And guess what? Some of the persons who rush also enjoy this challenge
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    Dude seriously it is pvp ... Ppl talk mess, rush, spawn, sneak, leave and come back fully buffed while you arent. Are you going to make more silly meaningless posts everytime you see something mentioned above happen?
    No on rushes me, if they do they fail immediatly and never try again.
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    There are no rules in PVP. Who are you to say that rushing is bad? Think about it.

    There is a good possibility that PVP was created for FFAs, and was not created with 1v1 in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbsolutePally View Post
    Im beginning to lean towards this.
    If you enter a pvp arena be prepared to fight. Its not a social circle gather or a place to stay afk or chat all day.
    Idk what happened to pvp but it used to be ffa fun all day. No crying bc u know and accept the possibility by entering you will die. Wi
    It seems like the weak began make the arena a domesticated formal dance.
    May I have this dance? Sure. Or no or wait ... Zzzzzz.

    Tell me this. Does anyone make pve games and just sit in there talking or afk? Do u wait for everyone and say go? Its a dungeon right? You kill mobs amd the boss no? I know pve is easy and a walk in the park compared to pvo but if you cant hang make a private game w ur friends and make your social pow wow.
    Take off the kid gloves and fight! Itll make u better, a player forged under pressure will always be better.
    People call rushers noobs but who is the real noob? The ppl sitting around talking or afk in an arena!!!! Or the person who came to pvp?
    If you cant handle it there is also a leave button, pvp, or cs u could go to.

    Not speaking to anyone in psrticular or personally. This is in,general.
    Typically Mud Mash or alien underground matches are ffa gogogo paced. Where as forest fights are 1/1 pow wow social circles arena.
    I disagree. You don't own the room. The host does. You cannot go into a room, whether it's PvP or social chat, and just demand for PvP. If you do so or decide to rush, you're the one doing wrong. This is a free game, and people have free will, as long as it stays within ToS. Rushing makes one's gameplay ruined, and violates the ToS INDIRECTLY. If you find a game incooperative, simply leave and don't cause trouble.
    As with rushing, the answer is to rather prevent it before it happens, IMO.
    Don't start a rush back at them; it won't do any crap.
    They still have the kill from you, and they'll go away laughing at you, the second that you're about to kill them back.
    I honestly think that PvP should seriously have a 30 second join cooldown, where you cannot attack or be attacked when you join. A lot of games at twink levels have people who RUSH YOU when you join. I've encountered so many of these that I don't even bother to twink PvP anymore.

    Anyways, yeah, either have a good and very alert host that can boot, be near a group of people on your team, or simply spec some STR and have STR gear. If you look at a pally, they don't even need Mana Shield...

    As for your suggestion, remember this is a game suited for kids at younger ages than you;it's not just adults. The people who swear and curse, they're doing wrong stuff.
    If you want to go ahead, and encourage that and do that, then you might as well be just as bad as them.
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    when some one rushes... there should be a sensor that gives you a damage, crit and armor orb then go get your kill back... then when your even, offer advise to the "noob'ie" show them that rushing in bad for there health....

    that is my solution

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    make private games and there are no rushers O.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whirlzap View Post
    I disagree. You don't own the room. The host does. You cannot go into a room, whether it's PvP or social chat, and just demand for PvP. If you do so or decide to rush, you're the one doing wrong. This is a free game, and people have free will, as long as it stays within ToS. Rushing makes one's gameplay ruined, and violates the ToS INDIRECTLY. If you find a game incooperative, simply leave and don't cause trouble.
    As with rushing, the answer is to rather prevent it before it happens, IMO.
    Don't start a rush back at them; it won't do any crap.
    They still have the kill from you, and they'll go away laughing at you, the second that you're about to kill them back.
    I honestly think that PvP should seriously have a 30 second join cooldown, where you cannot attack or be attacked when you join. A lot of games at twink levels have people who RUSH YOU when you join. I've encountered so many of these that I don't even bother to twink PvP anymore.

    Anyways, yeah, either have a good and very alert host that can boot, be near a group of people on your team, or simply spec some STR and have STR gear. If you look at a pally, they don't even need Mana Shield...

    As for your suggestion, remember this is a game suited for kids at younger ages than you;it's not just adults. The people who swear and curse, they're doing wrong stuff.
    If you want to go ahead, and encourage that and do that, then you might as well be just as bad as them.
    Why are you speaking to me as if I am a rusher or violate any terms of service or curse? You should know better than to associate me with amything like that.
    Rushing is not a violation it is not agaisnt any rules. If the game is a social chat circle i'll either chat if they are my friends or leave, or make my own game, or join another room if possible.
    All I am saying is rushing is apart of the game it happens, people need to accept and get over the fact thst it does, will, and may always be/happen. If you want to be upset about it then that is on you. You can either play the pvp arena GAME, stay dead, leave, host your own game, boot if it is already yours, go forums, cs, pve...
    Player vs player right? Not chatter vs afker.
    I'm no better than who whirlz? Excuse me?
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    Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe "1v1" originated as a combat against lag spikes. And I don't care if you think lag spikes is just "part of the game." If you do you clearly have not lagged as much as I have. I've got a 2nd gen Ipod and I'm on a Korean server. Both of those=constant 300-400 ping, and thats good. Lowest ever ping I had was 250. I was like :O
    This is solely my opinion, however there are many that agree with me.

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    I really don't mean to be disrespectful here but.... The funniest thing I have ever read on here is that rushing is against ToS. If that were really true than everyone in pvp would be banned by now. Lol why would sts EVER make the games for multiple players if it was not intended to be played as FFA? How do u pvp multiple players saying "go" and not "rushing" (in your definition) ? Explain to me how that works with 3v3 on a team level? Even the scoring system is set up for FFA like games, so that it can be kept track between 2 teams and not just random sets of players. If u want to 1v1 that's cool, I understand that. Lock the game then.

    This whole idea that "rushing" is disrespectful has gotten to such an outrageous level of no common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbsolutePally View Post
    Im beginning to lean towards this.
    If you enter a pvp arena be prepared to fight. Its not a social circle gather or a place to stay afk or chat all day.
    Idk what happened to pvp but it used to be ffa fun all day. No crying bc u know and accept the possibility by entering you will die.
    It seems like the weak began make the arena a domesticated formal dance.
    May I have this dance? Sure. Or no or wait ... Zzzzzz.

    Tell me this. Does anyone make pve games and just sit in there talking or afk? Do u wait for everyone and say go? Its a dungeon right? You kill mobs amd the boss no? I know pve is easy and a walk in the park compared to pvo but if you cant hang make a private game w ur friends and make your social pow wow.
    Take off the kid gloves and fight! Itll make u better, a player forged under pressure will always be better.
    People call rushers noobs but who is the real noob? The ppl sitting around talking or afk in an arena!!!! Or the person who came to pvp?
    If you cant handle it there is also a leave button, pvp, or cs u could go to.

    Not speaking to anyone in psrticular or personally. This is in,general.
    Typically Mud Mash or alien underground matches are ffa gogogo paced. Where as forest fights are 1/1 pow wow social circles arena.
    Wowwww thank you DTF. I literally could not have phrased this is any other way. I miss the old get in the arena and act like there's no tomorrow. Some people ask me to teach them to pvp as a mage (many skilled pvper's, not sure why i get asked on times). Main reason as DTF stated... I learned to PvP under pressure. It gives you many skills and progressively makes you better. Now, I'm no rusher, I like to be friendly with every PL "era" to come with new people. PvP from when 40-45 was the cap was a lot different, so i understand most of those who hate those intense on-going games. Just saying, under pressure helps with your technique. Technique transfers to the 1/1 arena too!

    And it's always nice to have those forest fight matches with a social group...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaunab View Post

    I don't know who posted this once in a thread, but it's so true, it stuck to my mind:

    "Only a noob calls others noob. Pros shut up and kill."

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    So True... :-D
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    This is a funny thread
    There are a few typos though XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whirlzap View Post
    I disagree. You don't own the room. The host does. You cannot go into a room, whether it's PvP or social chat, and just demand for PvP. If you do so or decide to rush, you're the one doing wrong. This is a free game, and people have free will, as long as it stays within ToS. Rushing makes one's gameplay ruined, and violates the ToS INDIRECTLY. If you find a game incooperative, simply leave and don't cause trouble.
    Why should you be able to make the decision that 'rushing makes one's gameplay ruined?' Other people could argue that 'standing around and talking without pvping' makes one's gameplay ruined.

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    Call yourself a rusher now Paar, rush my twink dare ya
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    I meet sooooooooo many failures who Freak out when they are rushed (even if it's an accident cause they thought it was ffa), and they kill the "****ING RUSHER!" like 12 times... It ruins the whole game. Thank you for writing this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewelsofjane View Post
    I really don't mean to be disrespectful here but.... The funniest thing I have ever read on here is that rushing is against ToS. If that were really true than everyone in pvp would be banned by now. Lol why would sts EVER make the games for multiple players if it was not intended to be played as FFA? How do u pvp multiple players saying "go" and not "rushing" (in your definition) ? Explain to me how that works with 3v3 on a team level? Even the scoring system is set up for FFA like games, so that it can be kept track between 2 teams and not just random sets of players. If u want to 1v1 that's cool, I understand that. Lock the game then.
    I don't think FFA is as fun, but if you want to FFA you should make a game and whenever someone joins say FFA... Most people assume its 1v1 not all games have to be played like that.

    P.S sorry for double post...

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    Guide to rushers

    1.) get some skills
    2.) don't have skills? fight the rusher and stop typing...you might actually get better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaytar:496511
    Call yourself a rusher now Paar, rush my twink dare ya
    Does this "Sentence" even make sence? No you must of not read this? It's saying SOME forms of rushing are bad!

    I have no Pleasure in Rushing whoever Your twink is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleisaac View Post
    I don't think FFA is as fun, but if you want to FFA you should make a game and whenever someone joins say FFA... Most people assume its 1v1 not all games have to be played like that.

    P.S sorry for double post...
    This is why I say that if you want 1v1, make a game and lock it. Not only does it seperate the 2 styles, but you dont have the distractions with people leaving and entering, you dont have to stop to say only 1v1, you dont have some random player killing another thus messing up the actual score. You can still let others join with password so that they can watch. I just dont understand these "go" matches with several people. What does one dual prove? That is why the score system is best out of 10.

    Also during an FFA, its extremly difficult to have to tell everyone FFA everytime someone enters, this could mean a death. I see people complaining of being killed when you enter a game. Have you ever noticed that when you spawn, you spawn in the opposite side or direction of the opposing team? If the devs didnt intend to have games as FFA in the beginning, why would they bother have everyone spawn so far away from the opposing team? If they thought all would be the polite "go" system, why wouldnt you spawn in the same spot as everyone else? Ever play alien underground? see how far away from opposing team you spawn there. The minute I enter a game I buff and shield regardless. The only place I see this as a problem is in CTF, and I think most players respect the "dont go into spawn room" unspoken rule. But again it is unspoken, and if it were intended not to allow someone in then you wouldnt be able to get in.
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