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    Default An elixir that lasts for one year

    In response to the many elixir complaints that still rage on today and the less than luck-warm response to my subscription idea, I have a simple solution.

    An elixir lasting one year.

    This elixir would:
    1. Offer 4x to armor, damage, and xp
    2. Offer increased speed
    3. Offer 100% luck
    4. Offer anything that any future elixir offered

    Price: 2000 platinum
    And ... 500 platinum for each additional character after the first one.





    I think that this has the potential to increase sales, rather than to decrease platinum sales. Only a small proportion of players will ever burn platinum. Does it not make sense to make them feel as if they are getting the most out of their money? It would also VASTLY decrease the negative perceptions around the game.

    Similarly, for people who are undecided - people overwhelmingly favor paying once over the carnival model of paying for each run (or for each hour). This could be the push that does it for them.

    One year is the ideal time. One month is too short, while one year is good because as a mobile, people come and go. A lifetime elixir could also be offered for 4k platinum plus 1k per additional character on that account.


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    This is intended to be a win-win-win.

    Win for elixir users: 35 plat/hour adds up pretty quickly. How many hours do you spend as a hardcore farmer per year? If the answer is more than 57, you'll want this.
    Win for on-the-fence users: Now elixirs are not the money burner. You know how much to spend and you know what you're gonna get. The only question is - do you want it?
    Win for devs: A higher proportion of players will spend money on elixirs and buy this. All hardcore players will buy this. All of them. This will lead to a net increase in plat sales. There will be far fewer complaints about devs who only want money.

    Finally, players will want to spend more time playing since it's a one year elixir or in the case of their lifetime elixir, maxing out their investment. There is a strong correlation between the time spent and the platinum sales. Plenty of time for vanities (make sure they don't add stats except for persistence ones) and other sources of revenue.


    Edit 2:

    No refunds will be offered. If you pick it - you'd better be sure this is what you truly want.
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    Not gunna lie i actually like this- its a subscription of sorts.
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    Yep^^

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    I would do this without blinking an eye. Excellent idea. Many don't think about it but when leveling/farming, it does take time to purchase an elixir in mid run or have to go to the guild hall and miss a run in the meantime.
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    If implemented, this will be the first suggestion that I have ever made that was implemented.

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    Only prob would if you want to help lower lvl no pause button

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    Honestly, I gotta say I love this idea. Great way for STS to rack up some cash too. Nice one elf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naonagotek:543765
    Only prob would if you want to help lower lvl no pause button

    No pause button needed if it lasts a whole year.

    Its like this (i think): it will go out when you reach the one year anniversary. It doesn't go by the time in a year, but slowly counts down whether you use it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naonagotek View Post
    Only prob would if you want to help lower lvl no pause button
    It's intended to last one year. Use it or lose. With one year though, there's plenty of time to use it.

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    I would love to say yay on this idea but being a plat spender sts would actually lose profit for the reson that a each update I purchase 2k and cap 3 toons (my xp)....if this lasted a year, I would only do this once. If sts released at least 5 updates in a year they would lose 400 bucks from me.....just my opinion

    On the other hand
    but if this was a subscription I would not waste a second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by octavos View Post
    I would love to say yay on this idea but being a plat spender sts would actually lose profit for the reson that a each update I purchase 2k and cap 3 toons (my xp)....if this lasted a year, I would only do this once. If sts released at least 5 updates in a year they would lose 400 bucks from me.....just my opinion

    On the other hand
    but if this was a subscription I would not waste a second.
    The thing is, you are one person. And one that represents an outlier in terms of platinum spent. How many more people would buy this because of it? Let's see, if they lose $400 a year from you, then it would take 2 additional people who spend platinum, just not as much as you do to buy this and it would be more than solved.

    People find the idea of subscriptions intimidating I'm afraid. I have already suggested it before.

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    I like the idea.

    The thing is that many people have multiple toons that they level to the end level cap, and buy elix way beyond that. Let's say you level 3 toons to each level cap (1 of each class), this would cost you 3000 plat. Given that devs said they intend to increase the level cap every 2-3 months, that would mean 1 year would be around 4 level cap increases (when using 3 months as a timeline). 4 level cap increases for 3000 plat, for 3 toons, is way less than what the hardcore player currently spends/will spend to get 3 toons up to the next level caps and/or simply farm IMO.

    This is, at least, what I see from personal experience. Seeing how many people run potted these days, my guess is that plat elixes are in fact the biggest source of money for STS. Before plat elixes were implemented, 2000 plat seemed to last a lifetime, while now, it's barely an exceptional amount anymore. People pay 36-40 plat for something that's gone after an hour. Furthermore, combo elixers aren't only bought by people to level up. They're also very often bought just to farm. Most of my friends are lvl66 already, but we still, more often than not, run all potted just to speed up our runs.

    So yeah, I really like the idea, and I would immediately spend 2000 plat to get one of those. For me, as a player, It would definitely be much cheaper in the long run. For STS on the other hand, I'm not so sure if they would get better from this. So if it's a win-win-win as you said, I'm not so sure of.


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    PRoblem: what if some of us players have like 100 platinums instead of like 2000 platinums, not gonna lie but some of the player in pl wouldnt wanna waste over 100 bucks on a single virtual elixir and what if u reached the lvl cap? u just wasted like 1/5 of the elixir waiting for next lvl cap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swords View Post
    PRoblem: what if some of us players have like 100 platinums instead of like 2000 platinums, not gonna lie but some of the player in pl wouldnt wanna waste over 100 bucks on a single virtual elixir and what if u reached the lvl cap? u just wasted like 1/5 of the elixir waiting for next lvl cap?
    Its not just the xp, it has 100% (lol I'm saying it as if its implemented already xD) luck so you can farm too.

    Some people don't even have plat, but IMO this would motivate them to try and buy some.

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    I think that several of the posts are missing my point. I will therefore repeat.

    Simply by encouraging people to buy the one year, enough people should buy the one year to offset the outliers that spend thousands per month.

    Furthermore, because people spend money on elixirs, they will want to spend more time in game to get the most of their money. More time = more sales in other things.

    Finally, in the long run, people who spend money on elixirs per hour inevitable realize that it sucks. Many will quit. With this idea, there are fewer people leaving.

    @Swords:
    Plenty of people at level cap buy elixirs too. Level cap people by no means "waste" elixirs. A one year and a lifetime elixir are both very viable options for level cap farming.

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    I like this idea but have something to add:
    60 plat a week contract/3120 plat a year
    225 plat a month contract/2700 plat a year
    1175 6 month contract/2375 plat a year
    2000 plat 1 year contract
    30 plat trial(1 time only)

    Please consider…

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    @Twink

    Adds unneeded complexity. Just keep it simple. 1 year for 2,000 plat, 4,000 for life.

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    If you want it simple……… Then agreed. +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinklaser View Post
    If you want it simple……… Then agreed. +1

    Simple means more people are likely to understand and therefore, buy.

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    4,000 for life? I would not play this game if players could purchase a permanent stat bonus for insane amounts of platinum. It totally ruins the whole idea of not needing to spend a dime in the game, even though that in itself is a flawed concept.

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