Skill Discussion - Humania Skill Ranks go to 7

[Samhayne]

Hey everyone,

I wanted to post up a discussion thread about Class Skill Ranks. After Humania goes live and the level cap goes up to 71, the skill cap will also go up to 7 per skill. Additionally, you will need to be level 65 in order to be able to rank any skill up to 7.

We have a lot more plans for Pocket Legends skills. It is possible in the future to add in Passive Skills, like what are currently used in Dark Legends and maybe even skill trees.

What are your thoughts about the current Pocket Legends Skill in light of this coming change?

[kaiserbear]

cool! :-)

[FluffNStuff]

Additionally, you will need to be level 65 in order to be able to rank any skill up to 7.

Oh thank Gawd. Twink PVP is already crazy enough!

[Nick41324]

L66 will be the new 61 pvp. 61 people are always fighting L51-56 people because it is a popular lvl of pvp..

Would L65 people not be extremely OP in pvp now?

[Xazic]

If skills are not nerfed or something similar, everything is going to be chaotic with the balance between classes being in danger.

[Fredobasy]

I personally think thats a great idea

[Cahaun]

Sometimes drastic changes and risky choices give the best reward in the end, and I think this is a good move.

[Fredobasy]

Sam will the level 65+ get free respecs?

[FluffNStuff]

L66 will be the new 61 pvp. 61 people are always fighting L51-56 people because it is a popular lvl of pvp..

Would L65 people not be extremely OP in pvp now?

Good point, that is going to be a pretty sharp line with anyone over 65 vs anyone under.

[Whirlzap]

I get the feeling people with multiple twinks with all 3 elite vanities, mostly Bear/Mage will want to stay back at this cap and twink...

[Nommos]

Skill trees would be great. It could be like having a tree for pure tank bear, and a tree for attack bear. Mixing skills from those skill trees would be make more combinations . Mages having two different skill trees one with buff and heal skills and one tree with attack skills would make some people "monks", so it will be like having one more class in the game. And so for the birds. Skill trees would be a huge change in the game

[Zeus]

I'll repost my thoughts here:

Hey guys, Apollo here!

Soooo, just wanted to bring this quote to attention from our wonderful Samhayne! Sam, I thank thee for all that you do! It's truly amazing.

All of the skills are going to 9000!

Oh, I mean, will go to 7.

Does anybody get the meaning of this quote? You PvPers should especially understand.

DODGE = evading an attack completely.

Bears currently have 74-76 dodge. With the new stat increase, it should put them off at 80+ dodge with THE OUTDATED MT. FANG GEAR!

What does this mean for y'all PvPers? GL hitting that tank, even after roots.

Birds are also affected, just not as drastically, IMO.

Elves, with these new buffs in stats, the role of elves seemed to change from "The Support Class" to "The Everything Class".

Devs, I commend you for doing such a great job with Humania, but please take into consideration the possible consequences with skill raises. Dodge enhanced classes will be the ones effected the most, because their ability to completely avoid damage will increase.

Possible Consequences:

* You might see bears running around as gods in PvP.

* Bears have one skill to get in range, if you keep increasing dodge on birds, how are they ever expected to land that skill and get within range? It just contributes to the already unbalanced nature of PvP.

* As defensive buffs like evade and taunt increase, the need for 4x elixirs decreases. Why? Survivability increases without elixirs, so more players won't need to buy them except for the purposes of leveling, which can be detrimental to STS's business

* Elves running around hitting 600+ in PvP with one spell: Drain


Just some food for thought,

~Apollo

[Whirlzap]

Food for thought? What?

[Paladinslaya]

Sam will the level 65+ get free respecs?

I wish

[Samhayne]

Sam will the level 65+ get free respecs?

The current plan is to change the cost for respecs to be free for several days so people can experiment. I believe there will also be a limit to keep people from respecing while in a PvP area to remove a potential abuse.

[FluffNStuff]

I'll repost my thoughts here:

Hey guys, Apollo here!

Soooo, just wanted to bring this quote to attention from our wonderful Samhayne! Sam, I thank thee for all that you do! It's truly amazing.





Does anybody get the meaning of this quote? You PvPers should especially understand.

DODGE = evading an attack completely.

Bears currently have 74-76 dodge. With the new stat increase, it should put them off at 80+ dodge with THE OUTDATED MT. FANG GEAR!

What does this mean for y'all PvPers? GL hitting that tank, even after roots.

Birds are also affected, just not as drastically, IMO.

Elves, with these new buffs in stats, the role of elves seemed to change from "The Support Class" to "The Everything Class".

Devs, I commend you for doing such a great job with Humania, but please take into consideration the possible consequences with skill raises. Dodge enhanced classes will be the ones effected the most, because their ability to completely avoid damage will increase.

Possible Consequences:

* You might see bears running around as gods in PvP.

* Bears have one skill to get in range, if you keep increasing dodge on birds, how are they ever expected to land that skill and get within range? It just contributes to the already unbalanced nature of PvP.

* As defensive buffs like evade and taunt increase, the need for 4x elixirs decreases. Why? Survivability increases without elixirs, so more players won't need to buy them except for the purposes of leveling, which can be detrimental to STS's business

* Elves running around hitting 600+ in PvP with one spell: Drain


Just some food for thought,

~Apollo

Won't the debuff's also go up a level, or are they just drastically underpowered compared to the buffs? If so, then the debuffs need to be fixed as a separate issue, though I can see how this is exacerbating that problem.

[Whirlzap]

The current plan is to change the cost for respecs to be free for several days so people can experiment. I believe there will also be a limit to keep people from respecing while in a PvP area to remove a potential abuse.

I'm pretty sure I respecced a hundred times during that free respec thing during Sewer Cap.

[Paladinslaya]

Sam, ty for your work and ideas but i agree with Apollo you should just let us max out our skills at 6.

[Ixillicus]

I like this approach. It would be rather unpopular I might say to do this retroactively, but I think it would make sense that the max number of points you can allocate to a skill increases on your level.

Currently, those 64 and under can put up to 6 in a skill, 65+ can put up to 7. If this were applied to lower levels it might make things more balanced for twinking. IE. Level 20 can only put 4 points in a skill, level 40 can put 5, etc.

[nazgulking]

I think that we should have Skill trees, depending on the stats we invest into.
For example if a mage choose a pure INT build should have selection of spells. If the same mage chooses to put some points into DEX and some in INT, should have sacrificed certain pure INT spells, while unveiling some others a pure INT build would never obtain.
In short we should have spells unlockable depeing on the stats we have.
Passive skills can be good, but I prefer perks (which are more elaborate than just a HP/Armour/Mana regen/Health regen passive skill)