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    Quote Originally Posted by Chopper View Post
    uhhh, i think you missed the point. How many players have the OPPORTUNITY to travel back in time to get the COP and Nuri's shield if they weren't playing then? LOL
    They had the opportunity to get it when it originally came out by downloading the game and playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chopper View Post
    uhhh, i think you missed the point. How many players have the OPPORTUNITY to travel back in time to get the COP and Nuri's shield if they weren't playing then? LOL
    They had the opportunity to get it when it originally came out by downloading the game and playing.
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    Why don't they just leave the elite set how it is and then down the road make another elite set. Then the old members fell good because none snatched their set bonus away, and the new people have a elite set to. Everyone's happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mage till the end:745823
    Why don't they just leave the elite set how it is and then down the road make another elite set. Then the old members fell good because none snatched their set bonus away, and the new people have a elite set to. Everyone's happy.
    Wow it makes so much sense that we should all rage about it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cahaun View Post
    This sounds like one of those: "If I can't have it, nobody will!" things
    ^^Agree^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mage till the end View Post
    Why don't they just leave the elite set how it is and then down the road make another elite set. Then the old members fell good because none snatched their set bonus away, and the new people have a elite set to. Everyone's happy.
    I don't know why they don't do this either. Just make the 71, 76 & 81 items form a set and give a similar set bonus as the older one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo View Post
    They had the opportunity to get it when it originally came out by downloading the game and playing.
    Maybe mentioning "equality of opportunity" is a bit exaggerated here
    But since you brought it up, factors that hinder equal opportunity include:

    "...circumstances of birth, upbringing, ... or 'involuntary personal attributes' such as disability, age, etc..." (see here)

    E.g.

    1. I am very young. Therefore, I could not have started playing PL when others did (involuntary personal attribute: age).

    2. My parents didn't allow me to play video games with killings until I was 14; they thought that such games at a young age would increase my violent tendencies (upbringing).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brave Sir Robin View Post
    Maybe mentioning "equality of opportunity" is a bit exaggerated here
    But since you brought it up, factors that hinder equal opportunity include:

    "...circumstances of birth, upbringing, ... or 'involuntary personal attributes' such as disability, age, etc..." (see here)

    E.g.

    1. I am very young. Therefore, I could not have started playing PL when others did (involuntary personal attribute: age).

    2. My parents didn't allow me to play video games with killings until I was 14; they thought that such games at a young age would increase my violent tendencies (upbringing).
    This is true. However, when an item is discontinued before you started playing, then why should they re-issue it just for your circumstances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomad187 View Post
    This is true. However, when an item is discontinued before you started playing, then why should they re-issue it just for your circumstances?
    I didn't say they should re-issue discontinued items They could always offer an alternative that gives similar stats.
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    or you could just suck it up and realize the game is for more than one person ^.^
    enjoy :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    I don't know why they don't do this either. Just make the 71, 76 & 81 items form a set and give a similar set bonus as the older one.

    this makes sense too.

    Hmm, lot of reasonable proposals to address the problem.

    Seems like the only people shrilling are those who got the original Elite items and keep chiming in even though this issue doesn't seem to affect them LOL

    ...except to try and stop others from having the same opportunity to have Elite bonuses, of course. ha ha ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyseon View Post
    or you could just suck it up and realize the game is for more than one person ^.^
    enjoy
    I was not talking about myself These were just two examples to counter the equal opportunity argument.
    Obviously, more than one person might fall into these categories. And of course, there are more examples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brave Sir Robin:746481
    Quote Originally Posted by nomad187 View Post
    This is true. However, when an item is discontinued before you started playing, then why should they re-issue it just for your circumstances?
    I didn't say they should re-issue discontinued items They could always offer an alternative that gives similar stats.
    I will thank you when I get on PC.

    I personally think they are going away from the stat vanities because of all the complaining from those that don't have X item. I agree that vanities should be vanities, and should not offer stats. However, in the case of the old elite vanities, that was the only real reward. The reward now it's the elite dungeon, and 3 items only a 71 can equip.

    The issue that I have is the attitudes of some. They feel that STS owes them something. STS did not need to tell them the new helm would not have stats, or give a set bonus with MFA, or SoH. STS decided instead to give us a new dungeon, with elite weapons. They went in a new direction, explained the reasoning, and a month later people are still complaining. At some point they need to accept facts, and move on. In my case, I capped one toon at 56, 61, & 66. My other two I only capped at 66. I too assumed the new helm would make a set bonus. I was disappointed when it didn't, but I accept the responsibility for having not capped the others. I actually like the idea of the new dungeon. A long as they don't make the elite dungeon plat based, I'm good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomad187 View Post
    I personally think they are going away from the stat vanities because of all the complaining from those that don't have X item. I agree that vanities should be vanities, and should not offer stats. However, in the case of the old elite vanities, that was the only real reward. The reward now it's the elite dungeon, and 3 items only a 71 can equip.

    The issue that I have is the attitudes of some. They feel that STS owes them something. STS did not need to tell them the new helm would not have stats, or give a set bonus with MFA, or SoH. STS decided instead to give us a new dungeon, with elite weapons. They went in a new direction, explained the reasoning, and a month later people are still complaining. At some point they need to accept facts, and move on. In my case, I capped one toon at 56, 61, & 66. My other two I only capped at 66. I too assumed the new helm would make a set bonus. I was disappointed when it didn't, but I accept the responsibility for having not capped the others. I actually like the idea of the new dungeon. A long as they don't make the elite dungeon plat based, I'm good.
    I like your positive way of thinking. And you are right, there are times where people's demands become unreasonable; I understand that it's impossible to keep everyone happy, ofc.

    About the rest, I have already expressed my opinions so no point repeating myself. My intention here was to discuss a specific (and interesting) argument, for the sake of constructive criticism.

    Personally, I don't mind if they introduce a paid dungeon or make any other changes as long as these changes enhance my overall gaming experience; as any other gamer I would like to feel respected both as a customer and individual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brave Sir Robin View Post
    ... as any other gamer I would like to feel respected both as a customer and individual.
    Agree with this. And people feel misled and ripped off by what happened.

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    I never expected my MFA to bonus with any other items, but i at LEAST expect Monarch+future elites to have sparkles if not bonuses.

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    This is one reason I quit playing. There is NO incentive.

    Im actually dissapointed that I spent money on this ****.

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