Opening Chests does Not Affect Drop Rates

[Uzii]

Well... i don't think anything worthwhile is coming out of those chests anyway.

I generally don't open them anyway because its wasting my time. But for some reason when someone says "Don'T open chests" I am compelled to do it. Its an uncontrollable urge. I can't fight it.

Haha i do that too then say uups...

[Fyrce]

LOL I'd say this the most persistent myth in Elite Tower of Mardrom -- don't open the chests!!
I think maybe I'm starting an ignore morons List.

[SuRfY]

From my perspective although i do open chests, i come up with a thinking. For people not to open chests, its with the loot reroll elixir in the equation. Because its only 25% and is similar to the PROC in weapons, it does not happen all the time. So rather than opening the chest and activating the 25% loot reroll chance which is totally random, they wanna save it for the loot reroll chance on the boss. Which sounds logical to me. So opening chests does not affect drops rates but it will affect the person with loot reroll elixir to "activate" the loot reroll chance automatically if he/she is within range of the opening of chests. He/she is hoping that the 25% chance happen on the boss instead of some chest which is wasted. Its like rerolling on a chest before the boss and on the boss, it does not reroll because it has just been rerolled. lol. Totally random but I can understand the logic.

[Rare]

From my perspective although i do open chests, i come up with a thinking. For people not to open chests, its with the loot reroll elixir in the equation. Because its only 25% and is similar to the PROC in weapons, it does not happen all the time. So rather than opening the chest and activating the 25% loot reroll chance which is totally random, they wanna save it for the loot reroll chance on the boss. Which sounds logical to me. So opening chests does not affect drops rates but it will affect the person with loot reroll elixir to "activate" the loot reroll chance automatically if he/she is within range of the opening of chests. He/she is hoping that the 25% chance happen on the boss instead of some chest which is wasted. Its like rerolling on a chest before the boss and on the boss, it does not reroll because it has just been rerolled. lol. Totally random but I can understand the logic.

You do realize though that that isn't any logic in that? I'm not saying people don't think this way...but it isn't any better than thinking loot is dependent on chests being opened or not.

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[SuRfY]

You do realize though that that isn't any logic in that? I'm not saying people don't think this way...but it isn't any better than thinking loot is dependent on chests being opened or not.

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Well, there is logic. It's like playing Russian Roulette in 2 scenarios. First scenario is player vs boss drops, second scenario is player vs boss drops vs chest drops.

[Rare]

Well, there is logic. It's like playing Russian Roulette in 2 scenarios. First scenario is player vs boss drops, second scenario is player vs boss drops vs chest drops.

Problem is, the logic isn't the same as Russian roulette. To make it the same, you would have to load and spin the cylinder every time. Because each drop is completely unrelated to the last and the probability is the same for each. Whereas with RR there are a finite number of shots and the probability of a live round is totally based on the last shot.

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[SuRfY]

Problem is, the logic isn't the same as Russian roulette. To make it the same, you would have to load and spin the cylinder every time. Because each drop is completely unrelated to the last and the probability is the same for each.

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That is only if the loot reroll elixir is not in the equation.

[Rare]

That is only if the loot reroll elixir is not in the equation.

I think you are mistaken. The lot reroll elixir gives you a percentage chance to reroll for loot. It is the same percentage for every drop and is not related to the last drop.

For example, first drop I have a 25% chance to reroll. Second drop I have the same chance regardless whether or not I rerolled on the previous drop or not.

To say it a different way, you are not guaranteed that 25% of your drops will be rerolls. But that each drop has a 25% chance to reroll.

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[SuRfY]

I think you are mistaken. The lot reroll elixir gives you a percentage chance to reroll for loot. It is the same percentage for every drop and is not related to the last drop.

For example, first drop I have a 25% chance to reroll. Second drop I have the same chance regardless whether or not I rerolled on the previous drop or not.

To say it a different way, you are not guaranteed that 25% of your drops will be rerolls. But that each drop has a 25% chance to reroll.

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First 2 lines are straightforward. The last line is the point. That being not guaranteed doesn't mean it's a zero percent chance of it not happening. It's like taking a subset of a subset. This is getting so interesting.

[Mrsberry]

Reroll is just like drops its randome put at a percent. Opening chests wouldnt effect ether.

[Rare]

First 2 lines are straightforward. The last line is the point. That being not guaranteed doesn't mean it's a zero percent chance of it not happening. It's like taking a subset of a subset. This is getting so interesting.

I don't understand what you're saying. What is not a zero percent chance? What that last line means is that possibly rerolling on a chest has no affect on whether you reroll at the boss.

[Nerola]

Problem is, there isn't a true random number generator. Second of all, those who are freaking out on reloot roll is infected by gambler's fallacy, where one believes the chance of succeeding increases as failures increase. And people will always be superstitious. Even if you have the devs come out and say otherwise, there will always be naysayers who think they know better.

[Rare]

Problem is, there isn't a true random number generator. Second of all, those who are freaking out on reloot roll is infected by gambler's fallacy, where one believes the chance of succeeding increases as failures increase. And people will always be superstitious. Even if you have the devs come out and say otherwise, there will always be naysayers who think they know better.

I agree. Luckily, it doesn't have to be a true rng. It only had to appear to be one. From our perspective, it is.

But yes, I think in every game people think there is some kind of method to getting better loot

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[BoomBox]

Its just redicilious how much people freak out about it, I was playing yesterday and I was at the forest and someone freaked cause I opened a chest lol then wentt off on me lol, I just lauged and told him to read the forums, since dev has confirmed lol

[Asahetek]

It is kina ridiclous how people freak out over this, the pink rate is horrendous ive only gotten maybe 5+ from the new elite maps.

[BoomBox]

Ive gotten a couple but spending most my time pvp

[Fyrce]

It's amazing how powerful people think computers are. They actually think that devs would write a program that keeps track of each action in a long list, then using that to calculate a non-random number. I'm impressed by the computers these people are imagining. Such complications.

[Rollo]

So reroll doesn't work on chests then? If it does then yes, opening chests affect drop rates.

[Rare]

So reroll doesn't work on chests then? If it does then yes, opening chests affect drop rates.

Reroll works on chests I believe. But, no, It doesn't affect drops rates from bosses. I think you are confused about how the luck elixir works.

As I mentioned in comment 48... the reroll chance (25% for example) is your chance to reroll on EVERY loot drop. It does not mean 25% of your drops will reroll. It means each drop has a 25% chance to reroll. So theoretically, you can have 100% of your drops reroll... or you could have 0%. But one drop does not affect the outcome of another drop.

[Sky../]

So reroll doesn't work on chests then? If it does then yes, opening chests affect drop rates.

Dude even if you re-rolled 10x in a row, you still have the same 25% chance to re-roll on your 11th drop.

I don't understand why these people can't seem to understand that.