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    Quote Originally Posted by CanonicalKoi View Post
    C'mon, Noob. You could still have fun! Look at Wounded, Otu, Apollo....they help people, but they did before they became Guardians. They liked to have fun and goof around and they still do. I don't think it's changed any of the GoA's I know, it's more of the Dev's acknowledgement of the sort of people they just *are*. A shield doesn't change that.
    But I will get spammed. And I'll get mad and have to control myself.
    And they do still goof around, but I don't handle responsibility the way they can.

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    I worded that wrong. I didn't mean to call anybody greedy, Migo. I meant, if you are helping other people for your own personal benefit, isn't that morally wrong? Meh, maybe I look too much into it and hold people to an unattainable standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noobmigo View Post
    But I will get spammed. And I'll get mad and have to control myself.
    And they do still goof around, but I don't handle responsibility the way they can.
    As long as you remember to report yourself when you lose your temper, you'll be fine. As far as being spammed, weren't you in the middle of like five convos already when I PMed you the other day in CS? See? You're already used to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo View Post
    I worded that wrong. I didn't mean to call anybody greedy, Migo. I meant, if you are helping other people for your own personal benefit, isn't that morally wrong? Meh, maybe I look too much into it and hold people to an unattainable standard.
    Hm, I suppose it is morally wrong.
    People who are idols of the community, such as you, holding others to a high standard is good for the community.
    It promotes good, clean fun, and helpful people!

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    (Golem) Myyy Precciiioouuussss (/Golem) Hehe had to add some humor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cascade View Post
    (Golem) Myyy Precciiioouuussss (/Golem) Hehe had to add some humor
    LOL, would you like to hijack this thread with me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cascade View Post
    (Golem) Myyy Precciiioouuussss (/Golem) Hehe had to add some humor
    Huh?

    Anyhow, I think this guide brings a really good message to all of us. IMO, I don't see how a player could make such a big deal out of a shield (like no offense) it's a virtual item, it just distinguishes you from other players, absolutely nothing else.
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    My thoughts...

    1: Be yourself!

    2: Have fun!

    3: Treat others with the respect and kindness you want to receive!

    4: If you get a shield, cool

    5: If you don't get a shield, no biggie! At least you have 1-3! What more can you ask for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo View Post
    I worded that wrong. I didn't mean to call anybody greedy, Migo. I meant, if you are helping other people for your own personal benefit, isn't that morally wrong? Meh, maybe I look too much into it and hold people to an unattainable standard.
    Just playing devil's advocate here...

    Would helping someone be for your own benefit anyway regardless of what your motives are? Obviously if you help someone hoping for personal gain, that's not selfless. You could go as far as to helping someone is not selfless since you're getting something out of it (feel-good feeling). Gotta love philosophy!
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    Philosopher! I don't know that anybody does anything for purely selfless reasons, so I guess we could now philosophize on whether or not the Truly Selfless Person (tm) even exists. I think doing it solely because you know it's the Right Thing to Do (tm) and that it makes you feel good to do the RTtD, is about as close to selfless as you can get. Since we're dealing with philosophy, YMMV, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noobmigo View Post
    I mean, if say, Phys (No Offense, not for real, just an example) did all those guides, with intention of a GoA shield, it still would have helped ALL those people.
    About 1/4 of my guides were created prior to the announcement of the GoA program, so no offense taken. If there is still stuff to report then I will certainly devote my time to disseminate information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physiologic View Post
    About 1/4 of my guides were created prior to the announcement of the GoA program, so no offense taken. If there is still stuff to report then I will certainly devote my time to disseminate information.
    Yes, I wasn't finger pointing, you were just the First GoA to come to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanonicalKoi View Post
    Philosopher! I don't know that anybody does anything for purely selfless reasons, so I guess we could now philosophize on whether or not the Truly Selfless Person (tm) even exists. I think doing it solely because you know it's the Right Thing to Do (tm) and that it makes you feel good to do the RTtD, is about as close to selfless as you can get. Since we're dealing with philosophy, YMMV, of course.
    I learned the same exact thing from Phil 101. Selfless acts don't exist because we do them to make us feel like we've done some sort of right. So to take it a step further, would a completely selfless act be doing absolutely nothing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physiologic View Post
    I learned the same exact thing from Phil 101. Selfless acts don't exist because we do them to make us feel like we've done some sort of right. So to take it a step further, would a completely selfless act be doing absolutely nothing?
    Doing absolutely nothing is not a selfless act. Also, I think it is mentally and physically impossible to do absolutely nothing.

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    The way things are going, I am afraid that the Guardian status may not have been the success that devs have hoped for. It has triggered jealousy and people with selfish motives. Certainly, there are people who deserve recognition, but we're seeing people who aspire for the GoA as an end into itself ...

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    Hmmm... to me it sounds like most guardians or other people think that other people that are attempting to become a guardian, are only doing it for the shield and that doing things to become a guardian are wrong which in my case would be hosting contest. This somewhat offends me bc there are many other reasons to want to become a guardian other than having the darn shield. Also I am sure that other guardians that were not among the first group were doing things in mind that they would become a gaurdian. Am I right?

    lol this is just a game thats why I stopped trying but still people should lighten up and stop judging people for trying
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    My advice: Forget the shield and just play the game and have fun...cuz having fun is the reason why we play video games right? You shouldnt have to have a incentive to be a nice and helpful person...Anyways just my 28 cents

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