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    Can we stop saying balance. There is no balance.. when one class consistently wins, other classes complain until one of the stats get changed. Then they keep winning and the other classes complain. People complain in the hopes of a change such that they always win, which is the definition of imbalance. All three classes cannot win simultaneously lmao. A balanced fight would be never ending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazinga! View Post
    Can we stop saying balance. There is no balance.. when one class consistently wins, other classes complain until one of the stats get changed. Then they keep winning and the other classes complain. People complain in the hopes of a change such that they always win, which is the definition of imbalance. All three classes cannot win simultaneously lmao. A balanced fight would be never ending.
    At least with some small changes we can get closer to being balanced than what we have now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckypowerz View Post
    At least with some small changes we can get closer to being balanced than what we have now...
    No it won't. One class gets changed the others start complaining. It is a never ending cycle. There will always be complaints making it seem like PvP is a failure. Nobody plays as a team and hence never unlocks the true purpose of their class. I'm starting to like the class specific idea. I don't like limits but limiting the gear that can be used will encourage team play at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazinga! View Post
    No it won't. One class gets changed the others start complaining. It is a never ending cycle. There will always be complaints making it seem like PvP is a failure. Nobody plays as a team and hence never unlocks the true purpose of their class. I'm starting to like the class specific idea. I don't like limits but limiting the gear that can be used will encourage team play at least.
    Balance IS possible unless ur referring to pin point balace, and complain doesn't imply a dis balance always, it must have some valid and solid reason behind.

    Top of that, if classes ain't balanced more or less, a team play where 'every class has its purpose' won't be blanaced either, so balancing classes is a basic requirement.

    Endgame is closed to balanced, other than a very few issues & biggest obstacle is currently the 85 str set + 80 wand/blaster which should be fixed asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waug View Post
    Balance IS possible unless ur referring to pin point balace, and complain doesn't imply a dis balance always, it must have some valid and solid reason behind.

    Top of that, if classes ain't balanced more or less, a team play where 'every class has its purpose' won't be blanaced either, so balancing classes is a basic requirement.

    Endgame is closed to balanced, other than a very few issues & biggest obstacle is currently the 85 str set + 80 wand/blaster which should be fixed asap.
    If complaints doesn't imply an imbalance, STS can just assume that everything is fine even though people are complaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazinga! View Post
    If complaints doesn't imply an imbalance, STS can just assume that everything is fine even though people are complaining.
    Why & how u missed the bolded line, that answer ur query.

    Quote Originally Posted by Waug View Post
    Balance IS possible unless ur referring to pin point balace, and complain doesn't imply a dis balance always, it must have some valid and solid reason behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waug View Post
    Why & how u missed the bolded line, that answer ur query.
    A valid and solid reason varies from person to person.

    As a random example, not taking any level into account - a bird complains that damage is too low because he cannot beat a bear, whereas the bear counters with the argument that they are meant for tanking. There's no obvious reason. As long as complaints keep coming, the impression that there is an imbalance will always be made, whether or not there is a solid reason behind it.

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