Trade Window

[Chocolaty]

I should've been more clear.
An example of a scam would be:
Player A offers 8 items for 1 item, Player B accepts.
Player A gives 4 items and receives the 1 in return.
Before giving the last 4 items, Player A leaves.


Yes, possible to avoid these scams, but more slots would lower the chances of it happening.

If anyone is gullible enough to do a trade like that, im sorry but it's your own fault nobody else's. 4 items in the trade window has worked perfectly fine for years now, why fix something that isn't broken. Mehh what do i know, im a Choco junkie

[Ydra]

If anyone is gullible enough to do a trade like that, im sorry but it's your own fault nobody else's. 4 items in the trade window has worked perfectly fine for years now, why fix something that isn't broken. Mehh what do i know, im a Choco junkie

Almost all scams are partly fault of the scammed one, but if the scam could be avoided by improving the system, why not improve it then?
Just because something is not broken, it does not mean it couldn't and shouldn't be improved.

[crudmudgeon]

Almost all scams are partly fault of the scammed one, but if the scam could be avoided by improving the system, why not improve it then?
Just because something is not broken, it does not mean it couldn't and shouldn't be improved.

thats like accusing a robbery victim of carrying too much money, or a rape victim of being too pretty.
the victim is NOT at fault for a crime just because they were an easy target

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[Ydra]

thats like accusing a robbery victim of carrying too much money, or a rape victim of being too pretty.
the victim is NOT at fault for a crime just because they were an easy target

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Your analogy does not work in this instance.
When being victim of robbery or rape, there is very little one can do. The same does not apply to trades in AL.

When trading, the scammer can only perform his action with the victim's 'consent'/approval (namely, clicking confirm in the trade window (twice , in fact). When being victim of a robbery/rape, one does not have any option on confirming/consenting to the criminal's action.

[crudmudgeon]

Your analogy does not work in this instance.
When being victim of robbery or rape, there is very little one can do. The same does not apply to trades in AL.

When trading, the scammer can only perform his action with the victim's 'consent'/approval (namely, clicking confirm in the trade window (twice , in fact). When being victim of a robbery/rape, one does not have any option on confirming/consenting to the criminal's action.

i can think of half a dozen things either victim COULD have done to prevent the crime... but why should they have to.

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[Ydra]

the analogy is accurate... a crime is a crime... phoning an old lady and convincing her to invest in your fake business is just as wrong as intentionally trading fewer or different items than was agreed upon.

why would you ever claim it is up to people to defend themselves at all costs rather than attacking dishonesty.

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I am not advocating that the victim is guilty in either case. The victim is innocent in both the robbery/rape and scam scenarios.

What I am demonstrating is that in the scam situation, the victim CAN do something to stop it from happening.
In the robbery/rape situation, the victim CANNOT do anything to stop it from happening.

i can think of half a dozen things either victim COULD have done to prevent the crime... but why should they have to.

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In an ideal society, there would be no victims of crimes, so there would be no need to defend yourself. Since neither AL nor real life are ideal societies, crimes happen, and it is to the victims benefit that they defend themselves.

But again, while in the scam scenario the victim has a choice to prevent it from happening, the rape/robbery victim does not WHILE the crime is happening. One victim is defenseless while the other is not.

[Chocolaty]

thats like accusing a robbery victim of carrying too much money, or a rape victim of being too pretty.
the victim is NOT at fault for a crime just because they were an easy target

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Im with Ydra on this one. Your analogy for this situation is horrid.