Arcane Legends not so Pay to Win afterall.

[Anarchist]

The greater pumpkin chests are free to open right?

Need a dev/mod confirm please

Yes, free to open

Thats how to do it!

[falmear]

You can only earn tokens by using energy kits. So queue all of the rage threads because:

1) Costs too much (plat or gold) to buy energy kits to get enough tokens.
2) Can't earn enough tokens to get pet for free because of only 3 energy slots + crafting time of non-tradeable energy.

So there is no free lunch here. Energy kits have to be purchased by using plat, the more time you spend farming for free non-tradeable energy kits to craft, the less time you have to spend earning tokens. However for anyone who really wants a good pet, I wouldn't recommend Grimm. There are better options to put your hard earned gold towards.

[Kakashis]

not that I'm doubting you, but where exactly is the original post? I follow quite closely but fail to find it anywhere in that thread

[Anarchist]

If you want to put the players that pay for kits and the players that farm for kits on the same level, which is just like putting p2w=f2p on the same level, Whats the need of defining the too categories?
Call it "PLAY".

But there are two categories and they can be considered on opposite ends, due to goblin events, energy system and the fact lockeds were the only way to reach arcane and mythics we considered AL to be heavily p2w but now we are granted the chance to loot: the best weapons, good mythic/arcane pets for free.


what else do you want the mythic weapons directly in your inventory?

Looking back to the past i am satisfied with the current outcomes.

[Samhayne]

You can only earn tokens by using energy kits. So queue all of the rage threads because:

1) Costs too much (plat or gold) to buy energy kits to get enough tokens.
2) Can't earn enough tokens to get pet for free because of only 3 energy slots + crafting time of non-tradeable energy.

So there is no free lunch here. Energy kits have to be purchased by using plat, the more time you spend farming for free non-tradeable energy kits to craft, the less time you have to spend earning tokens. However for anyone who really wants a good pet, I wouldn't recommend Grimm. There are better options to put your hard earned gold towards.

You can also obtain Energy through collecting energy essences and crafting your own Energy.

[Anarchist]

not that I'm doubting you, but where exactly is the original post? I follow quite closely but fail to find it anywhere in that thread

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...egends!/page13

there you go scroll down it should be #258

[falmear]

You can also obtain Energy through collecting energy essences and crafting your own Energy.

This is what I said in point #2. You only have 5 crafting slots plus I believe it takes 4 hours per slot to craft. And whatever time it takes to for you to farm these essences. And this farmed energy is not tradeable & not stashable unlike the the energy kit you buy with platinum. Whether its realistically achievable to earn enough tokens to get the pet for free over a 1 week time span, I don't know but given past experiences, I would say no. Unless you are willing to put a lot of gold towards buying energy kits from cs.

[Samhayne]

This is what I said in point #2. You only have 5 crafting slots plus I believe it takes 4 hours per slot to craft. And whatever time it takes to for you to farm these essences. And this farmed energy is not tradeable & not stashable unlike the the energy kit you buy with platinum. Whether its realistically achievable to earn enough tokens to get the pet for free over a 1 week time span, I don't know but given past experiences, I would say no. Unless you are willing to put a lot of gold towards buying energy kits from cs.

As I understand it, if you have the time, it is possible over the course of the event to get yourself a shiney new Grimm egg as a free to play player.

[Raregem]

This is what I said in point #2. You only have 5 crafting slots plus I believe it takes 4 hours per slot to craft. And whatever time it takes to for you to farm these essences. And this farmed energy is not tradeable & not stashable unlike the the energy kit you buy with platinum. Whether its realistically achievable to earn enough tokens to get the pet for free over a 1 week time span, I don't know but given past experiences, I would say no. Unless you are willing to put a lot of gold towards buying energy kits from cs.

I may be wrong but i think the event will be longer than a week. Last year it was 13 days (If I am remembering correctly Oct 22-nov 4 i think) With all the work they've put in it I feel like it will be at least 3 weeks like Ursoth.

I'd prefer not to have the energy too, but at least it's an option compared to the goblin event. I also think it takes 2 hours for the kits. I think the 4 was for the x2 lockeds. They have to make money and adding the grimm for tokens is a huge step up. We'll all just have to wait and see how it plays out. At least there is a real reason to run the event and collect the essences for energy this time. Last event all I wanted was the elo essences. What was the point of running the bosses with the token rewards, there wasn't one.

[Ticklish]

I may be wrong but i think the event will be longer than a week. Last year it was 13 days (If I am remembering correctly Oct 22-nov 4 i think) With all the work they've put in it I feel like it will be at least 3 weeks like Ursoth.

I'd prefer not to have the energy too, but at least it's an option compared to the goblin event. I also think it takes 2 hours for the kits. I think the 4 was for the x2 lockeds. They have to make money and adding the grimm for tokens is a huge step up. We'll all just have to wait and see how it plays out. At least there is a real reason to run the event and collect the essences for energy this time. Last event all I wanted was the elo essences. What was the point of running the bosses with the token rewards, there wasn't one.

Yes I think that's why they're concentrating on token and tier rewards this time. We have yet to hear of craftable locked crates for this event. I am honestly not a fan of the new halloween weaps. We've been asking for better helms and armors, and there still are too many level 41 Elondrian weaps floating around. It's good that warriors are getting a better weapon option, but not after the Bulwark was buffed to glorious (and expensive) state and then nerfed back to useless. A lot of them lost gold from that fiasco, now it will be even less desirable due to the promise of a more powerful weap.

[obee]

And this is why I'm coming back for Halloween. I'm ready to farm energy!

[octavos]

err...ummm...yea...sorry clearing my throat,

(The fallowing is viewed by a new player or FTP player.)

well glad to see the 1st mythic obtainable by tokens...As a FTP player id work my reaaalllllllyy hard to earn him. in my video rampage a few days ago from EXTRACREDITS, I think its a nice direction to go. Finally, FTP players can earn a nice pet without having to spend a dime. Im not saying that the devs will lose money because of this, but having more players "feel entertained" will help promote STG as a better company. Things like this often and frequent will be fantastic. Im looking at the wider picture, and having players bale to spend there free time to earn items is what the game is about. Even for vet players like myself, this gives me something to do

(As a vet player looking at this)

Grimm is already in the AH, people should be able to fork up the gold and buy them. Bring him back will hurt the economy? maybe but theres already a few in AH to purchase without spending a dime and giving players some extra cash. If the mythic pet was a NEW one, that would be awesome, not a recycled pet re-released on this event. But still nice to see that grimm is back, but i would like to see him as a different color just like the re-release of vanities.

As I understand it, if you have the time, it is possible over the course of the event to get yourself a shinny new Grimm egg as a free to play player.

Time has never been stated...how long will it run?!?! because i'm with falmer, will a FTP player able to earn enough with tokens? because 1,100 is quite a bit. and kinda defeating its own purpose of being a *Free pet.

*limitations apply.

[tankk]

1100 tokens doe...

[Ticklish]

Hey, buying Grimm using tokens is an option guys. There are other farmable items. It's up to players to pick a goal of their choosing.

[Xenobiotic]

Smells like I'm coming back

[Raregem]

Hey, buying Grimm using tokens is an option guys. There are other farmable items. It's up to players to pick a goal of their choosing.

Great point! First chance at a mythic pet without plat... we should be celebrating! They have actually made a great move here something positive.

I am surprised STS hasn't just deleted the whole forum with all the junk they have to deal with.

[Kakashis]

This is by far the best event to date and I would like to thank STS for it! This is the first free mythic egg that free to play players can buy in the game which is totally awesome! And mythic weapons in the chests? WOW STS has really upped their game on this event! Blinky would be cool, but man, am I interested in that undead pig!!!

[Xenobiotic]

err...ummm...yea...sorry clearing my throat,

(The fallowing is viewed by a new player or FTP player.)

well glad to see the 1st mythic obtainable by tokens...As a FTP player id work my reaaalllllllyy hard to earn him. in my video rampage a few days ago from EXTRACREDITS, I think its a nice direction to go. Finally, FTP players can earn a nice pet without having to spend a dime. Im not saying that the devs will lose money because of this, but having more players "feel entertained" will help promote STG as a better company. Things like this often and frequent will be fantastic. Im looking at the wider picture, and having players bale to spend there free time to earn items is what the game is about. Even for vet players like myself, this gives me something to do

(As a vet player looking at this)

Grimm is already in the AH, people should be able to fork up the gold and buy them. Bring him back will hurt the economy? maybe but theres already a few in AH to purchase without spending a dime and giving players some extra cash. If the mythic pet was a NEW one, that would be awesome, not a recycled pet re-released on this event. But still nice to see that grimm is back, but i would like to see him as a different color just like the re-release of vanities.



Time has never been stated...how long will it run?!?! because i'm with falmer, will a FTP player able to earn enough with tokens? because 1,100 is quite a bit. and kinda defeating its own purpose of being a *Free pet.

*limitations apply.

If you're determined you'll probably get it, STG hopefully won't make the event shorter than 2 weeks.

[Anarchist]

For those saying this is not ok,

FTP=/=P2W==Advantages.

not just that the disadvantages of FTP related to PTW has been reduced to the essence of FTP: Time invested

[Sakurahb]

We were all happy with the fossil in arena, anyone looted fossil there?
Why should I believe that the drop with these weapons will be different of the fossil?

The weapons will be in locked crates too i guess. ( not confirmed).