Fuzzy Bears.

[plpr]

Crash is a god amonst pvp bears and makes the bear class look easy.

Personally I prefer to be a hybrid dex bear, using the talon or bow to farm with.

Perhaps more str tyben bears should voice an opinion about the set, so sts have a more in depth understanding of the weaknesses.

Its difficult to give constructive unbiased opionions if your favourite class is a mage or bird and so forth.

I have made 2 threads about it now. The reason why people don't care nearly as much about bear is because nobody plays them people just play the dominant classes being mage and bird. Rhino is another story but that's basically the just of what's going on at 105 pvp.

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[Buchmeister]

I have made 2 threads about it now. The reason why people don't care nearly as much about bear is because nobody plays them people just play the dominant classes being mage and bird. Rhino is another story but that's basically the just of what's going on at 105 pvp.

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Which is why we want to make bear good lel.

Honestly hasn't been that good since 76.

[Jilsponie]

Bear is feasible, and not as weak as y'all making it out to be... your all just used to being able to nuke as a str class... i can tell because most bears i fight just stand there and let me kill them instead of getting back while their skills cooldown.

I've been beaten by bears as have many other mages.... birds however have everything going for them atm. You can get a ridiculously op 1k armor 100 dodge buff your 1 hand set, and a 13m un-removable root effect on the 2h set.

Which is why we want to make bear good lel.

Honestly hasn't been that good since 76.

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[Buchmeister]

Bear is feasible, and not as weak as y'all making it out to be... your all just used to being able to nuke as a str class... i can tell because most bears i fight just stand there and let me kill them instead of getting back while their skills cooldown.

I've been beaten by bears as have many other mages.... birds however have everything going for them atm. You can get a ridiculously op 1k armor 100 dodge buff your 1 hand set, and a 13m un-removable root effect on the 2h set.

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It is, but feasible doesn't work out well when almost every other class is better than feasible.

I haven't seen many foxes in endgame.

[Jilsponie]

This is your perspective, some bears beat me way more than i beat them... while i was teaching dark yesterday we watched zoro beat muzzing and make it look easy, one match was 4-1. I feel like alot of you talking about bear absolutely needing a buff just need more practice. Pvp changes with every cap and the strategy used before doesn't always work. Ik alot of bears got way used to being able to bec,cb,stomp,sms and kill every mage every time... but it's a str class and str classes are not damage classes, their tank classes.

It is, but feasible doesn't work out well when almost every other class is better than feasible.

I haven't seen many foxes in endgame.

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[Buchmeister]

This is your perspective, some bears beat me way more than i beat them... while i was teaching dark yesterday we watched zoro beat muzzing and make it look easy, one match was 4-1. I feel like alot of you talking about bear absolutely needing a buff just need more practice. Pvp changes with every cap and the strategy used before doesn't always work. Ik alot of bears got way used to being able to bec,cb,stomp,sms and kill every mage every time... but it's a str class and str classes are not damage classes, their tank classes.

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Yeah, they do need a buff. The sword is slow, they don't do an awful lot of damage and can only tank with axe which makes bears do basically no dmg especially to healers. As it stands right now bear is extremely weak in 1v1 and maybe a little better in teams. There are some exceptions but they're situational and rare. I should know, I play the class and know a lot of people who do as well. Combine that with what used to be an underwhelming sword proc (now is half-decent), they really are not as strong as you think they are. Yes, we are tank classes but we can't even do that right.

[Jilsponie]

A little better in teams? Before i even had a set getrevoked and i with him in a 105 set could usually win 2v3s... bears are ridiculously good for team fights...

Yeah, they do need a buff. The sword is slow, they don't do an awful lot of damage and can only tank with axe which makes bears do basically no dmg especially to healers. As it stands right now bear is extremely weak in 1v1 and maybe a little better in teams. There are some exceptions but they're situational and rare. I should know, I play the class and know a lot of people who do as well. Combine that with what used to be an underwhelming sword proc (now is half-decent), they really are not as strong as you think they are. Yes, we are tank classes but we can't even do that right.

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