Sorry Emma well before you let them borrow any items or gold just always ask your self if can i trust this guy, will he return my gold/ items back? / do i really know him?.Originally Posted by Emmacheese
Also be ready for the bad things might happened.
See you all and dont trust anyone in this game if it involve gold and items.
Bye!
It's just sad it has come to this as I have lost all trust in people and in the game!
So you know all 60 people in Real life? I doubt that.
You're continually missing the point, and you have proved here is that this AP is primarily achieved by people lending money. Which is exactly what this AP isnt meant to be about.
Taking away the AP will be taking away temptation. Taking away temptation means minimising risk. Minimising risk means better game for everyone.
I hope you never get scammed like my friends. If you do dont come crying to me. The only reason you're worried about this is LB. And if you havent got there without this AP IMO you dont deserve it. This doesnt show that you're a good player.
This is just my opinion.
Last edited by Joncheese; 11-04-2013 at 05:36 AM.
Ign: Ice / Scar ~ Guild <Karma>
well you can still enjoy the game with our letting people borrow your items or gold.
no one can blame you if you don't let them borrow anything your just being careful and its normal because you dont know them personally.
Just learn how to say " NO " emma.
i know its hard but if they are your real friends they will understand why you say no.
I know about 20-30 yes in real life and the rest are friends of friends who they also know in real life.
Example 1 office A is my old classmate playing with me and officer B is his cousin or neighbor that he can guarantee that person wont run with the gold.
It's about friendships being ruined over this ..... Sigh I don't understand why you aren't getting this. A lot of people just play for the social aspect of the game. And this AP is in place and of course you want to help your friends....
And I'm sorry daddyblu but weren't you the one also sticking up for a well known scammer/harasser a few days ago on the forums :/ I'm pretty sure you know what I mean ...
Last edited by Emmacheese; 11-04-2013 at 09:18 AM.
Well then you are just lucky. Many people aren't fortunate to have that in-game, and consider there in-game friends true and real friends. I know I do with a couple of people .....
Can we please get back to talking about banning this AP kthx
Last edited by Emmacheese; 11-04-2013 at 09:18 AM.
yup lucky indeed sorry for your friends lost.
Yeah.. Don't talk to anyone.. He may scam You... *sarcasm*
The meritoric level of this meaningful disputation, about scamming starts to be paranoid...
The M M O R P G Is created for purpose of co-operation between players..
So... It is impossible to do not trust to anyone, since You don't know him in real life.. (or, sorry, it is impossible to me)
Being a reculse, who bites, when You will ask "woah, nice vanity", isn't good idea.. for example ofc..
If You play this game... later, or earlier you will trust someone... and You will earn trust from others too.
Sorry Spart.. Maybe not everyone is sooooooo smaaart as You are..
That may sounds selfish.. But i need to admit, this game doesn't have point of existence without friendship of virtual players,
who unite in guilds, to achieve their own purposes ect.
If You tell us, to do not trust anyone, except Your well-known real life friends, You start to close Yourself in the 'bubble',
in which You won't have place to anyone except You.
I have many friends... I have.. 3 Bestfriends. And i trust them all, i don't care, They live on second part of world.. And play, when i have sweet dreams. We earned our trust, cause of the time, we have spent together, and i bet, scammer WOULD NOT be my friend in this game(I would kick him, report, and killed his reputation if so, ikik i am bastard.) That is the point, You need to belive in Your friends, and vice versa. The friendship - bond, which takes much time to grow, needs to be nurtured every day.
The friends are Your true treasure... Not gold..
None dares to scam You from friends, You can't put them in trade.. or in gift window..
They can help You, when You had bad time,
And they won't abandon You, even if You will have big troubles.
I am talking, about my friends, and about bond, which we together made, in months, of time we spent together.
This is what i wanted to mention about paranoid of 'anti-friendship' here..
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Now time for app..
As my Bestfriend said in first post, it should be deleted.
Why?
I will allow myself to affirm the tragic situation here.
This ap works like wrong circle..
Pepole want to get it -> They gain money -> (There are scammers also so) They scam money -> They are getting ap -> They showing it -> Pepole want to get them too (here circle closes)
But the main, and worst point is, without the achievments, Pepole haven't been scammed for such big amounts of gold. So, My calculation shows, the community will suffer more. The scams will double, triple, and it will be 'everyday' someday..
To avoid such scams, such wasted amounts of hard-earned gold,
Devs, Mods, please, hear my desire, of saving pepole, who can be scammed by awful creatures, in purpose of getting this app..
Pepole, even if They wanted to use 'heads' to avoid scams, there will still be big ones.
Scammers were, are and will be here..
Better be prepared for that, when we will gain money for that ap, (hopefully not) we may get scammed.
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Deadroth
Last edited by Deadroth; 11-04-2013 at 05:58 AM.
Hi Death,
You can still make friends with out letting them borrow your items / gold.
I think they can understand that.
Also true that its hard to avoid this things specially he or she is already with you for 5-6 months.
We as a human create this attach feelings to our online friends who we encounter in a few months, we cant avoid it.
I do have a lot of online friends and guild members who borrow gold.
But the time when they borrow gold it depends on the amount and how long they stayed in my guild.
True its very hard to judge where he or she will not scammed you.
also this is a way of testing your friendship.
I know one guy we are not close and by accident my girl gift the Mythic 36 weapon to him :P.
his name was Beelzebob, he can always say sorry its your mistake i cant give it back to you.
But when i pm him he return it with no hassle .
his not even my friend - i just know him like 2-3 weeks ago.
In online we cant truly tell who is fake or real.
Im glad i meet a few people online who is very friendly and can be trusted.
Ok so daddyblu ...... Would you give 100m for the AP to a fellow officer and a friend online you have known since season 1 and also loaned other things too and got back in the past?
The whole trust deal also counts on a scammer being impatient and greedy....yes all scammers are greedy but as we've seen as of late, they're far from stupid and impatient. For this ap it doesn't take 15 minutes or even 2 months (usually) to gain the kind of trust required to give out that kind of gold. Itd be like meeting someone and handing them a couple thousand dollars because they say. "You can trust me, you've known me for 15 minutes now," no, these people are nurturing relationships and friendships for the long road. They know peoples emotions and how to play them, and they utilize it 5 - 6 months down the road to take you for all youre worth. Its not something you can say "Don't trust people who aren't your best friends," because in 5 - 6 months they can make you believe they are your best friend in game and could never do something so low...wrong. just get rid of the ap.
Out of thanks ... This is exactly what is happening!
And from my past experiences with MMO's this is the only game I have played that don't do anything to punish these players and have a very fair support system ..... With all the irl money I spend on this game I expect more :/
Yes Emma,
As i said i let a few people who i did not know for the 100m AP.
they are friends of friends.
Im just lucky no one run away with my gold LOL.
True, I mean they should have a recall system and conversation log.
If its proven they should return the item / gold.
Well I'm glad you agree because ..... This was the case with one of my friends on Saturday and now he has quit because he feels so betrayed, he lost 100m but he is more disappointed with his friend that scammed him and the fact support don't do ANYTHING and he is also a big plat spender so also pays to play! ...... Again there is only one word to describe this and that is GREED
And to STS pull your finger out for god sake and do something about this, you need to look after the players (customers) in this game.
Last edited by Emmacheese; 11-04-2013 at 08:10 AM.
What I can say more than Emma / Job already said? Nothing! BUT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THEM AND THE MAJORITY HERE!
STS, in the benefit of AL game ban the 50 mil and 100 mil APS.
It's not helping anyone!
BAN BAN BAN!
Let's do a revolution!
I requested EOS via EOS thread to support this thread and share their opinion here :
http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...=1#post1323460
Hope you guys do the same in your guilds. Let's give to scammers less temptations to SCAM
100M is a lot of gold wish STS can do anything to get it back.
Did he print screen the whole conversation or agreement sort of thing that you can send to STS.
Maybe that will help i know STS can block a device and can trace the owner of the device.
If that guy is a plat user it is easy for STS to get hold of his true identity, for every plat purchase you used your credit card but also they wont share it.
what they can do is they can banned the device this guy is using by tracing up his Apple Id / User.
And hope they can do a recall system to replace your gold.
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