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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    There's been much debate on the normal method vs this method, seems there isn't much difference between time and efficiency, and lies mostly on personal preference and group teamwork
    I think for most group a "traditional" run is faster and more effective. But rounding up is just more fun, cause it seems kinda risky to pull those five extra mobs too. And after thousands of identical runs in the few sewer dungeons that is quite motivating, at least for me.
    Fastest way I think would be to dual pull mobs, but you really need a team that knows exactly what the other one is doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by JaytB View Post
    Wish you would play a little more instead of talk though :P
    Yeah you got me there, I actually spend more chatting than playing time in game... :-/ Chatty bear...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    I also think Wallace and I can attest first-hand that dex gear just totally boosts your kills, one of the biggest reasons why I'm always dex in PvE
    Totally. Some days ago I noticed I did a whole Stronghold run in str gear rounding up - and had zero kills - that would have never appened wearing talon or bow...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wushu View Post
    Whenever I have had the chance to run with MrWallace, I become his shadow -- where he goes I go. The whole "COMBO! COMBO! COMBO! COMBO! COMBO!" is just too fun not to do. Thanks for the great runs. BTW-- I've had the pleasure of running with Ellyidol as well -- and it's a whole lot of fun too.
    Hehe you kinda freaked me out when we did the first runs together, because you always stood in the right spot for the next combo, no exception. I was like "How does he know???" lol

    Quote Originally Posted by romgar1 View Post
    I remember the first run I had with you MrWallace. I was like wow who is this guy. I thought you were toughies or ellyidols alt at first. I love playing my mage but can't wait to finish my lvl lvl bear.
    I remember, you actually messaged me "Who are you?" :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Wallace View Post
    Totally. Some days ago I noticed I did a whole Stronghold run in str gear rounding up - and had zero kills - that wouldn't have happened wearing talon or bow...
    I need your advice on that, a talon/wing setup.

    On the times I've tried using it, I always thought of it as a weaker version of a 1H Sword + Shield setup, just a bonus of small ranged attacks with the talon.

    Do the talon attacks actually do good damage? I'm sure it can't compare to a bow, since its 2H, I'm just eager to try and make a talon/wing setup, especially since how I love the range and combination of bear skills

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    I need your advice on that, a talon/wing setup.

    On the times I've tried using it, I always thought of it as a weaker version of a 1H Sword + Shield setup, just a bonus of small ranged attacks with the talon.

    Do the talon attacks actually do good damage? I'm sure it can't compare to a bow, since its 2H, I'm just eager to try and make a talon/wing setup, especially since how I love the range and combination of bear skills
    Well it is like a sword with some range, but with good gear you can do some damage. With RR talon set i got 216 dps with 144 hit and 51 crit unbuffed - that hurts a bit.
    But with Drainer set you are right, the talon is only a symbolic weapon :-)

    So imo talon makes sense with a good set, you might wanna test drive RR for that. I offer my set for tests! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Wallace View Post
    Well it is like a sword with some range, but with good gear you can do some damage. With RR talon set i got 216 dps with 144 hit and 51 crit unbuffed - that hurts a bit.
    But with Drainer set you are right, the talon is only a symbolic weapon :-)

    So imo talon makes sense with a good set, you might wanna test drive RR for that. I offer my set for tests! :-)
    I see, thanks!

    Would it be possible for you to post your stats on an RR Talon Set? Heh.

    I'm also interested in armour and regen values since that's what I would look at in PvE too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    I see, thanks!

    Would it be possible for you to post your stats on an RR Talon Set? Heh.

    I'm also interested in armour and regen values since that's what I would look at in PvE too.
    Check my first post in this thread, i edited and added talon stats... :-)
    It's the standard RR set, so not customized. I know that most ppl prefer cust, but I didn't want to lose my damage for some regen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Wallace View Post
    Check my first post in this thread, i edited and added talon stats... :-)
    It's the standard RR set, so not customized. I know that most ppl prefer cust, but I didn't want to lose my damage for some regen.
    Don't worry, I agree on normal RR over Customized. The HS would be nice, but in PvE I'd prefer the damage.

    Thanks for the picture!

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    MrWallace glad to see you continuing to post. One of the best bears I have run boards with and always glad to see you in my group. Not only a skilled bear, but a good fun player to chat with as well. Glad to see you and Elly comparing notes considering how similarly you both play. I dual speced my bear just so I could try and copy Elly and your playing styles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Wallace View Post
    Check my first post in this thread, i edited and added talon stats... :-)
    It's the standard RR set, so not customized. I know that most ppl prefer cust, but I didn't want to lose my damage for some regen.
    i really like wearing talon/shield but i get really confused between dual spec bear or dual spec bird .... Which char wearing talon/shield better ???
    Are talon/shield gud for PVP ???
    Plz help me, im newbie

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducloe View Post
    i really like wearing talon/shield but i get really confused between dual spec bear or dual spec bird .... Which char wearing talon/shield better ???
    Are talon/shield gud for PVP ???
    Plz help me, im newbie
    I'm really no expert, but I'd use Crossbow or Gun for PVP. A talon just has not much range.

    In PVE I prefer talon for those average mobs, you get some armor but still can attack someone while running to the next wall to beckon. I'm not sure if wearing talon makes much sense for a dual bird...

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