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    Edit: Added detailed stats comparison between uncrafted and crafted, in plain numbers (thanks to Noodleleg)

    Hi all,


    I figured it could be useful to show you what exactly you’ll gain, by going through the (expensive) process of crafting your gear. That way you can make an informed decision, before blowing all your gold on those (currently) still fairly expensive diamonds.

    I’ve been wanting to make this topic for a while now, but unfortunately real life doesn’t leave me with much free time lately. I really wanted to get this topic out as fast as possible, so I decided to start posting pictures of set-bonusses, stats and skill dmg already. If I have more time in the future, I might add real set bonuses (they can all be calculated from the screenshots in this post *hint*), and maybe do a number by number comparison as I did in the past for demonic vs glyph sets (as can be seen by clicking: here). But at least, all info is here to make your own comparisons using the screenshots


    This topic will contain most sets for all 3 classes, grouped by warrior, Mage then Archer.

    I’d like to thank following people:

    • Crimsontider: for lending me his str set, both 1handed and 2handed
    • Darkfader: for lending me his dex set (2h)
    • Badazz: for giving me a first look to his 2h dex set



    So, let’s get to it…


    1. Warrior

    1-hand set

    The 1H humanity ‘set’ doesn’t come with any set bonus, while the Humanian 1H set does have the bonus. Humanity items can be crafted while Humanian can not.

    Uncrafted Humanity (no set bonus uncrafted, craftable into 'Sand Walker' set)






    Humanian (not craftable, but gives set bonus with 1H sword)






    Crafted 1H ‘Sand Walker set’ (crafted Humanity items)






    Crafting your Humanity 1H set into a Sand walker set, gives you (If stat not mentioned, means 0 difference):

    +19 strength attribute points
    -4 critical hit
    +1 dodge
    +24 health
    +4 health regeneration
    -1 minimal damage / +4 maximum damage
    +44 damage per second
    +33 armor



    2-hand set

    Humanity items do provide a set bonus with the 2H monster scimitar (only the 2H monster scimitar will be shown here). Humanian doesn't give any bonus and isn't listed below.

    Uncrafted

    Humanity 2H set






    Crafted 'Sand Walker' 2H set






    Crafting your Humanity 2H scimitar set into a Sand walker set, gives you (If stat not mentioned, means 0 difference):

    +12 strength attribute points
    -1 critical hit
    +2 health
    +4 health regeneration
    +15 armor



    2. Mage

    1H (Wand/Cuff) sets

    Uncrafted Islander 1H set






    Crafted Islander ‘Sand Goddess’ 1H set






    Crafting your Islander 1H (Wand/Cuff) set into a Sand Goddess set, gives you (If stat not mentioned, means 0 difference):

    +16 intelligence attribute points
    -2 hit
    +8 critical hit
    +1 dodge
    +4 health
    +4 mana
    +6 minimum damage / +6 maximum damage
    +5 damage per second
    +6 armor
    +24 min/30 max skill dmg



    2H (staff) sets


    Islander doesn’t give a set bonus with the 2H staff, instead Hula gives a set bonus with Hula staff.

    Below you’ll find screenies for Islander, Hula and crafted staff ‘sets’.

    Uncrafted Islander 2H 'set' (no set bonus, craftable into 'Sun Goddess')






    Hula Dancer 2H set (set bonus, but not craftable)






    Crafted Islander ‘Sand Goddess’ 2H set






    Crafting your Islander 2H (Staff) set into a Sand Goddess set, gives you (If stat not mentioned, means 0 difference):

    +6 intelligence attribute points
    -1 hit
    +3 dodge
    +2 mana
    +4 mana regeneration
    +17 minimum damage / +17 maximum damage
    +17 damage per second
    +12 armor



    3. Archer

    Only Sun God Bow set, uncrafted and crafted, will be discussed below (‘Of Tiki’ gives a set bonus too).

    Uncrafted Sun God 2H Bow set






    Crafted ‘Sun God’ 2H Bow set






    Crafting your Sun God 2H (Bow) set into a Sand Skipper set, gives you (If stat not mentioned, means 0 difference):

    +14 dexterity attribute points
    +5 hit
    +6 critical hit
    +9 dodge
    -6 health
    +3 health regeneration
    +8 mana
    -1 minimum damage / -1 maximum damage
    -2 damage per second


    Crafted ‘Sun God’ 2H Shanks set






    I currently don't have an uncrafted shank set, I'll try and get my hands on one later



    As you can see, these are most of the craftable items and their stats.



    As always, please leave your constructive comments below
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    Great job, Jay ^_^!

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    What you get for your money/crafting:


    *All stats not mentioned means 0 difference*


    -----

    Crafting STR gives:


    Crusher and Bongo set:

    +19 strength attribute points
    -4 critical hit
    +3 dodge
    +24 health
    +4 health regeneration
    -1 minimum damage / +4 maximum damage
    +44 damage per second
    +41 armor

    Scimitar set:

    +12 strength attribute points
    -1 critical hit
    +2 health
    +4 health regeneration
    +15 armor

    -----

    Crating INT gives:


    Wand and Cuff set:

    +16 intelligence attribute points
    -2 hit
    +8 critical hit
    +1 dodge
    +4 health
    +4 mana
    +6 minimum damage / +6 maximum damage
    +5 damage per second
    +6 armor

    Staff set:

    +6 intelligence attribute points
    -1 hit
    +3 dodge
    +2 mana
    +4 mana regeneration
    +17 minimum damage / +17 maximum damage
    +17 damage per second
    +12 armor

    -----

    Crafting DEX gives:


    Bow set:

    +14 dexterity attribute points
    +5 hit
    +6 critical hit
    +9 dodge
    -6 health
    +3 health regeneration
    +8 mana
    -1 minimum damage / -1 maximum damage
    -2 damage per second

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    Now I got all these numbers! What now?!


    Analysis:

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    STR

    Crusher and bongo:
    I see one of the biggest differences in the 1h str set... Just amazing stats on that set. And even more great stats once you craft it. In my opinion, the best set to craft. The armor and damage difference in crafted is just insane. That's what you call notable difference. And based on the stats, I think we might see the comeback for pallies. The hit, crit, and mana regen can definitely support a pally. Who's ready to see some rifty pallies?

    Scimitar:
    It's a meh type... You won't see much difference with it, but there is a difference. Highly recommend try the other str set.

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    INT

    Wand and Cuff:
    Usually the set people craft... Wand and bracer (cuff) crafted sets... Perfect balance of hit, crit, health and mana regen, and amazing damage. Just love the crafted set. However, if you get the L70 set, don't be afraid to craft it. Angel sets can easily overpower L70 Islander's sets, but in PVP, I've seen crafted sets simply OWN. Amazing stuff once crafted. Number 2 on my lists of sets to craft.

    Staff:
    In staff vs staff fights, the crafted set will probably win. Good armor and damage bonus. However, wand and cuff will work much better in PVP based on what I've seen. Still should be useful vs the elite boss though.

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    DEX

    Bow
    Pretty sweet set to craft. Nice bonuses in a variety of stats. Wished it had better base damage though. Might help a bit in 1v1 situations. If you plan playing FFA or CTF, this set should do amazing. Great FFA stats.




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    for crossbone set bonus gives:
    5% hit
    6% crit
    9% dodge
    3hp/s regen

    worth it imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodleleg View Post
    Just to clear things up:


    *All stats not mentioned means 0 difference*


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    Crafting STR gives:


    Crusher and Bongo set:

    +19 strength attribute points
    -4 critical hit
    +3 dodge
    +24 health
    +4 health regeneration
    +1 minimal damage / +4 maximum damage
    +44 damage per second
    +41 armor

    Scimitar set:

    +12 strength attribute points
    -1 critical hit
    +2 health
    +4 health regeneration
    +15 armor

    -----

    Crating INT gives:


    Wand and Cuff set:

    +16 intelligence attribute points
    -2 hit
    +8 critical hit
    +1 dodge
    +4 health
    +4 mana
    +6 minimum damage / +6 maximum damage
    +5 damage per second
    +6 armor

    Staff set:





    Finishing up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaytB View Post
    Great! Mind if I edit this info in later on?
    Sure, why not ^_^!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodleleg View Post
    Sure, why not ^_^!
    Cool! I'll wait till you finished it all and make sure to give you credit for it


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    I think the best comparison for the 1H STR set would be to compare the Humanian to the Crafted, since Humanian is actually the non-crafted "set". Humanian actually seems like a bargain at current prices. You can pick up the complete 4-piece set for far less than 500k.

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    I feel like the differences between the crafted set and the "cheap" sets are not worth the huge prices. Only reason to go for that little extra "oomph" would be to PvP or if you are trying to farm the elite boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intenze View Post
    I feel like the differences between the crafted set and the "cheap" sets are not worth the huge prices. Only reason to go for that little extra "oomph" would be to PvP or if you are trying to farm the elite boss.
    Yes, that is how it always is. People pay 10m+ for a dragon set so they can have an extra 10 dmg & 5 armor. Every little bit helps.

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    Thank you so much for this! There are way too many names (some so similar o.O) for me to keep straight XD One critique is just about the image size. Try using an image resizing program like Fast Image Resizer to convert a bulk of images to a set size (the program looks old....cause it is lol, but it does a good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaytB View Post
    Cool! I'll wait till you finished it all and make sure to give you credit for it
    Many thanks !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intenze View Post
    I feel like the differences between the crafted set and the "cheap" sets are not worth the huge prices. Only reason to go for that little extra "oomph" would be to PvP or if you are trying to farm the elite boss.
    It actually makes a huge difference when it comes to PVP... 10 damage after that long fight could add up to 200 damage later. And that 200 damage kills the enemy just before you die.

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    Just an off-topic question here, but where do your 2 extra dex points come from??

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    While the cost would be through the roof because you would have to buy it piece by piece, I think the best "set" for a bear would be the crafted dex armor pieces combined with the crafted Mace / Shield. Using the crafted dex over regular dex will save you some of the Dodge you would lose and the serious uptick in hit points / crit / damage I feel would make up for the lack of "their bonus". And it is not just the difference in listed hit points, since you are also getting 66 Dex with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffNStuff View Post
    While the cost would be through the roof because you would have to buy it piece by piece, I think the best "set" for a bear would be the crafted dex armor pieces combined with the crafted Mace / Shield. Using the crafted dex over regular dex will save you some of the Dodge you would lose and the serious uptick in hit points / crit / damage I feel would make up for the lack of "their bonus". And it is not just the difference in listed hit points, since you are also getting 66 Dex with it.
    I'll have to try this out. I have the crafted mace/bongo set, and working on crafting the dex shanks set, so maybe I'll try the mix & match and see how it works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    I'll have to try this out. I have the crafted mace/bongo set, and working on crafting the dex shanks set, so maybe I'll try the mix & match and see how it works out.
    Give it a try and let me know what you think. I was using full strength Angel gear on my 66 bear but switched to mixed dex angel gear (same items) and found that my survival rate went way up. Even though my defensive stats went down a little, I was landing a lot more stuns which was keeping me alive.

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    Before you mentioned it, I was actually considering just the opposite: Using the STR Armor & Helm with the Shanks. For anyone who has a bear and has not tried the shanks, I urge you to try it. They are SOOO MUCH FUN!!!

    Yes, it will be a problem in Humania as your defense is low and you will die. But when farming any of the lower levels, you can clear mobs the way birds and mages do. The shanks are so quick and they hit so hard you kill everything on the first hit. I also found it fun to solo the Bandit King and Queen, which I can now do with the shanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    Yes, that is how it always is. People pay 10m+ for a dragon set so they can have an extra 10 dmg & 5 armor. Every little bit helps.
    I did it because the 2h sword is FRICKIN' AWESOME!!
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