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Linkincena
07-01-2013, 01:09 AM
Below you will find some of my analysis for my sorcerer buddies for choosing their pet according to the game strategy they wanna adopt during play...
Significant Parameters considered for decision making are:
1.Final Damage = [Base Damage + % extra damage from pet * Base damage]
2.Arcane Shield Protection = [((2*STR)+INT)*3.5] .... (Fully charged shield)
3.Stuns
Whole analysis is done by taking changes on my base stats, will work the same for you also in a similar way...
Only those pets have been chosen which make significant changes and effects to player and enemies ... (Some are dropped like Granite, McCraw etc. .. these pets are not important for sorcerers)
Have not given much importance to critical cos unlike rogues we mages get very small chances to hit high critical damages .. for those who like critical.. I have added a separate column for that...
So go on .. Make a choice for which pet u wanna play with :)

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Linkincena
07-01-2013, 01:33 AM
Pl give your feedback for improvement and increasing understanding....

saroeun
07-01-2013, 01:52 AM
I don't understand this Grab

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Cero
07-01-2013, 01:58 AM
1. final dmg,
-is it from the skills or pet dmg?
- who did you hit to get those final dmg number?
2. arcane shield prot points,
-how did you come up with the numbers? would like to know so i can do some math.

ty

Linkincena
07-01-2013, 02:27 AM
1. final dmg,
-is it from the skills or pet dmg?
- who did you hit to get those final dmg number?
2. arcane shield prot points,
-how did you come up with the numbers? would like to know so i can do some math.

ty

Everything is from Pets with their effect on your INT,STR,Damage, Final Damage,etc...
Have mentioned Base stats on TOP...
For Final damage = Base Damage + (%extra dmg from pet * Base Damage)
Arcane Shield= ((2*STR)+INT)*3.5

Wowsome
07-01-2013, 03:20 AM
good work, man. additional points to be considered about the pet arcane ability are -
1) cooldown time
2) active duration
3) physical range

Valsacar
07-01-2013, 04:48 AM
I ran your slag and colton damage numbers with max gear (all mythic) and the difference is a little bigger.

397.04 with slag
397.65 with colton

So Colton gives even more, due to the way bonus damage works.

You left out how they affect HP, for example I have 2542 with colton and 2672 with slag. I think that's a fair trade for 0.6 damage.

Wowsome
07-01-2013, 04:53 AM
Ok wowsom.. Will do..
3rd point i.e. range.. is hard to see in numbers i think... will try for it..

yes, range is important, but its difficult to quantify ..


I ran your slag and colton damage numbers with max gear (all mythic) and the difference is a little bigger.

397.04 with slag
397.65 with colton

So Colton gives even more, due to the way bonus damage works.

You left out how they affect HP, for example I have 2542 with colton and 2672 with slag. I think that's a fair trade for 0.6 damage.

good point .. another example is Orion .. it adds 160 health via happiness bonus but that doesn't get reflected in STR ..

Wowsome
07-01-2013, 05:51 AM
i understand this post is meant for endgame .. but just a small note that some buffs which are not so attractive at endgame shine out at lower levels, like the +80 armor from Koko ;)

Wowsome
07-01-2013, 05:58 AM
Aaaah.. I hate twinks lol

lol, isn't it difficult to hate them all? :P jk man. no further derailing :).

Otawaazavie
07-01-2013, 06:16 PM
There is an error in dmg reduction column. Malison doesn't apply dmg reduction debuff but hit reduction.

Valsacar
07-01-2013, 06:56 PM
Colton gives 10% extra dmg bonus and slag gives 12% dmg bonus... so slag would overpower colton in future. ..colton's 30 intelligence is significant currently .. in coming 6 months this 30 intell won't be much significant compared to the damage bonus of 12% by slag... u got my point?

That's what I thought, and should have seen when I did the numbers (because I have more +dmg than you), it it's not. Bonus damage will continue to make the spread grow farther apart. With Slag I have a bonus damage of 288%, with Colton it is 295%. Unless there is a cap on bonus damage (soft or hard), Colton will always have that additional 7%.

iacito
07-01-2013, 07:49 PM
There is an error in dmg reduction column. Malison doesn't apply dmg reduction debuff but hit reduction.
Malison is not supposed to apply dmg reduction, he is supposed to apply hit and armor reduction debuff.

Imjebus
07-01-2013, 09:44 PM
Aaaah.. I hate twinks lol
Hater ;( lol xD

Linkincena
07-01-2013, 11:09 PM
Malison is not supposed to apply dmg reduction, he is supposed to apply hit and armor reduction debuff.
Done correction... ty )

Linkincena
07-02-2013, 01:40 AM
That's what I thought, and should have seen when I did the numbers (because I have more +dmg than you), it it's not. Bonus damage will continue to make the spread grow farther apart. With Slag I have a bonus damage of 288%, with Colton it is 295%. Unless there is a cap on bonus damage (soft or hard), Colton will always have that additional 7%.

Infact.. 2 other pets to look out for future are Flapjack and Loki .. 15% damage bonus..

vholt
07-02-2013, 01:50 AM
Pretty nifty. Appreciate the effort Cena!

Chauakai
07-16-2013, 07:38 PM
Hey Link! I noticed you have Talon listed twice with 2 different stat results. He is listed 8th from the top and also last on the list. I am currently running Slag, Malison, Kettle, Orion, and Ribbit all have reached pet lvl 30 on my mage. Had a great 2x weekend!

Looking at either Colton or Clyde but may wait to see what new pets come out. I also using Aspen as a temp pet till I find something better to lvl up. Loki probably will be added shortly to replace Aspen. Prefer legendary pets over epic due to dmg and crit factors they have.

Linkincena
07-16-2013, 10:28 PM
Talon is listed twice... on top its without talon's buff. And below is with its buff...

jazaajaba
07-18-2013, 08:29 AM
Can you list arcane pets in that list

Chauakai
07-18-2013, 03:09 PM
Talon is listed twice... on top its without talon's buff. And below is with its buff...

OK! Thanks buddy! Forgot about his buff!

Linkincena
07-21-2013, 11:52 PM
Can you list arcane pets in that list
Dont' have arcane pets yet ... so cannot give any accurate values...
But expect them to be at Top 3:
Samael - Rank 1 arcane pet for sorcerer
Hammerjaw - Rank 2 arcane pet
Glacian - Rank 3

Caronos
08-23-2013, 11:39 AM
Hi, nice work. Have a 31 rogue and warrior and have now started with a mage. The table helped me a lot for choosing pets. You have listed that u get from Flab Jack more strength. But the pet gives 15% Damage as u wrote and 8 Health and Mana Regen. With my rogue i dont get more strength from the pet.

Otawaazavie
08-23-2013, 12:55 PM
Link you should add Abbadon and Misty in your calculations. Ty for this useful thread

Linkincena
08-23-2013, 11:56 PM
Misty is already there...

Correcting Flapjack and adding abbadon soon...

Linkincena
08-24-2013, 02:58 AM
Added Abbadon and corrected Flapjack stats...

Deadroth
08-24-2013, 06:06 AM
LOL You should ask Mod to move it into player guides. Who cares it is mainly for smurfs. Noble GM of <Elite Runners> post Her awesome guidies for rogues there too.

NOTE TO MODEATOR: Please move it into player guides XD

Azemeazed
08-24-2013, 11:04 AM
i like this post, specially couse it took so much effort.
but you should add 12% speed to abaddon and 10% speed to slag, couse those 2 bonuses are very good in pvp and pve and thats why i like those two guys the most...

Linkincena
09-02-2013, 05:27 AM
i like this post, specially couse it took so much effort.
but you should add 12% speed to abaddon and 10% speed to slag, couse those 2 bonuses are very good in pvp and pve and thats why i like those two guys the most...

Yes speed boost is good i agree.. however its failing in kiting in pvp a lot of times due to high range of warriors and rogues (pulled n stunned u r dead)..
so have not taken it on priority list.. though good sometimes if u are out of range...

Instanthumor
12-17-2013, 12:10 AM
Should update! Arcanes can pass, but I don't see some pets like Clyde, Crawly, etc. :D

Linkincena
12-20-2013, 02:19 AM
Should update! Arcanes can pass, but I don't see some pets like Clyde, Crawly, etc. :D

Clyde is there...
Crawly to be added soon...

hellblazer85
12-28-2013, 07:52 PM
Please add ethyl into the list..

Gesaffelstein
12-29-2013, 06:05 PM
As mythic sorcerers now got 400+ dmg, slag will give more damage than colton now :p

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