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Nutslammer
07-07-2013, 12:29 AM
I was asked by crazy amounts of people if I could teach them how I play. A lot of people don't like it when they play against me like this but the truth is I believe this is the way you should fight. The way other people want to fight is just run straight at each other and use your skills at the exact same time and whoever crits the most or dodges the most wins. Well if everyone is using the same equipment what's the point? We might as well have a coin flipping challenge where you choose heads or tails instead because it uses the same principles of luck. In this guide I will show you how I think the game should be played so I hope you guys enjoy.

Section 1- Equipment
Section 2- Basics and Skills
Section 3- Movement
Section 4- Advantage and putting it all together


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Equipment -

Okay lets get started with equipment. First of all the basic equipment you need as a low level dex bear ranging from level 10-15 is going to be "Level 10 Archer 4-Pack" found in the platinum store for 35 platinum. It gives stats and almost every decent dex bear you run across will be using at least the helmet of this platinum pack. If you see a level 10-13 using a talon, then they are using the talon found in this platinum pack. If you really are into low level pvp, you can try and get a full sniper's set which gives 1% more hit than jewels thief's. This is not required but can be the determining factor in a fight against other twinks. Moving on, if you are level 10-13 I would highly recommend you use expert rather than artisan or plat pack armor. Expert has a very high chance of critical hit and this is KEY to winning a fight. One more thing you need is a "Fine ring". This gives a great bonus and is great for a low level dex bear. Personally I use Fine platinum Band of Bravery which gives 9 Dmg and 1% Crit. For the shield it can go 2 ways, you can go the classic old school pvper way of using sniper's avian wing which is found in the Level 10 Archer 4-Pack as well or with Gruesome Evidence Bracer level 10 Pink. Although I'm not particularly happy about it giving 2% extra dodge it is very helpful in modern day pvping. You are also going to want a new face as faces give just a little bit of an extra bonus. I personally like the mecha face for the looks but 2% extra hit is very helpful as well. Last but not least is your stylish vanities. The helm is very good because it can give you 1 armor, the rest is usually for style. Here is a list of what you should have equipped.

Helmet - Sniper's Archery Cap or Jewel Thief's Archery Cap (Level 10) Pink
Weapon - Sniper's Avian Talon or Jewel Thief's Avian Talon (Level 10) Pink
Armor - Expert Reinforced Leather (Level 5) Pink
Shield - Gruesome Evidence Bracer (Level 10) Pink
Ring - Fine Platinum Band of Bravery (Level 10)

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Basics and Skills -

Let's now move on to skills. My current build is 6 Rage, 3 Stomp, 1 Super Mega Slash, and 1 Vengeful Slash. This can vary depending on how you fight but as of right now I will show my exact way of playing Timetells. Lets get the distance down

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This is the exact distance of 3 Stomp (which is 8m). Make sure you drill this image into your head as this probably the number one way of defeating your teammate. When you start a battle, you both say go (don't be one of those kids that say go 2ft away from someone and beat the crap out of them). First thing to be sure of is that when you are in Auto attack distance, make sure you have it on. During the fight be sure to constantly glance at your Auto attack to be sure it's on and attacking your opponent because you never want your enemy to have an advantage over you. When in range of your opponent be sure to use your skills in the following order Stomp -> Super Mega Slash. DO NOT USE YOUR OTHER SLASH AFTER YOUR FIRST ONE. A lot of people make this mistake and when they run over to the enemy, the enemy uses their slashes and can possibly win the fight. Depending on if you have an advantage over your enemy or not will determine if you chase them. If you do then be sure to use your skills in the following order if you get to your opponent quickly Vengeful Slash -> Super Mega Slash -> Stomp. If you both go flying back, then be sure to use Stomp -> Super Mega Slash again. These are the very Basic things you need to know about pvp with talon at low level.

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Movement -

The next section I will explain will be movement. This is a great skill to have when you pvp as it causes panic and confusion to the enemy. First I will show you the range you SHOULD NOT be at when confronting an enemy for using your movement.

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This is the CORRECT range you should be at to be able to cause confusion to your enemy and you are able to use your movement skills.

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You should be able to run around that map freely without constantly looking at your opponent. The reason you do this is because you need to be able to know your distance AS WELL as the lag in the game. No matter how low your ping is, there will be a slight lag that will screw up your distances that you know when you and your enemy is standing still. This is why people complain about stomping ranges being wrong when it actually is not. This next picture is showing the slight lag of 2 different character screens.

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These 2 images were taken at the exact same time using dual monitors. The first part of the image is showing my screen of Timetells and how he sees the enemy Dtony. The second image is showing Dtony's view on the map. If you look at the map you can see a line dividing the map. Use that as a reference and you will see that Dtony is slightly ahead of what the position Timetells sees him at and is closer to Timetells as well. Although this position seems very small, it actually affects the appeared range of people's stomp A LOT. Be aware of this when in a fight against an enemy. This leads into anticipation. Anticipation is 100% key to increasing your win percentage. What you need to do is anticipate when your enemy is going to get close to you to use his stomp. What you need to do is move in the opposite direction of where your opponent is for about half a second and then go towards your opponent. It will give off the appearance of you avoiding your opponents stomp while being in their range (make sure you anticipate correctly or it will be the same as you both stomping at the same time or your enemy stomping earlier than you). Then you simply use your combo Stomp -> Super mega slash and so forth (Explained in the Basics section). Please do not call this kiting as it is not. Kiting was a term made mainly for mages or other toons using crossbows. Kiting is just attacking from a distance while your enemy cannot attack and if they can attack then they shouldn't be able to use their skills if you are kiting.

Note : Be sure for 100% that you know your distances with lag before attempting this, otherwise you will be put at a huge disadvantage if you mess up.

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Advantage and putting it all together -

This section is going to be very simple and short. While fighting your opponent using your new skills of movement, you want to fight for advantage. Advantage makes it so that you are almost completely in control of the fight, unless they just have a critical spasm attack and KO you in just 3-4 hits. When you avoid your opponents stomp, you are at the advantage if your stomp and super mega slash connect. The thing you need to be sure about is how much damage you did to your opponent. If you did anywhere above 300-350+ damage on your first stomp -> sms combo. Then more than likely you are going to want to keep the pressure on your opponent by running over to them and using your second slash and your first slash (While auto attacking as much as possible of course). If you have the advantage and don't think you did enough damage, then be sure to keep your distance and wait for your stomp to come back and repeat the process of avoiding the enemy's stomp. In the end you can have your own type of movement varying from twitching your character or to using your emotes before trying to gain advantage. It's completely up to you, in the end all that matters is that you get the kill and win the fight :)

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Hope you guys enjoyed and I wish you the best of luck in low level pvp. Feel free to contact me in game anytime ign - Timetells

Last note : Please stop saying gf after every fight. If someone lost a fight, it wasn't a good fight for them :disturbed:

Entertaining
07-07-2013, 01:17 AM
I don't care how good your distance is. If i auto you 3 times with forg bow gf.

Nutslammer
07-07-2013, 02:50 AM
I don't care how good your distance is. If i auto you 3 times with forg bow gf.

Talon more accurate and higher crit% ill gladly 1v1 a level 12 with fbow. They miss too much and tend to rely o the fbows power to do all the work for them.

Caiahar
07-07-2013, 08:43 AM
^True, lotsa just hope fb wins and usually spam skills.

Trenton
07-07-2013, 08:43 AM
Talon more accurate and higher crit% ill gladly 1v1 a level 12 with fbow. They miss too much and tend to rely o the fbows power to do all the work for them. I'm pretty sure Entertaining isn't one of those bears.

Anyways, nice guide, I like it :P

TheBeastXD
07-07-2013, 11:21 AM
So getting sniper is all % from archer lvl 10 pack?

Kixxler
07-07-2013, 01:58 PM
So getting sniper is all % from archer lvl 10 pack?

All Sniper gear = 1 more hit % than jewel thief gear.

Autq
07-07-2013, 04:02 PM
Blch u barreled me :(

Spyce
07-07-2013, 05:58 PM
Meh.
You're to popular at the 10-17 community to quit.

Autq
07-07-2013, 06:16 PM
Meh.
You're to popular at the 10-17 community to quit. if u don't know timetells ur beginner of pvp

Reunegade
07-07-2013, 08:30 PM
I'm beginner of pvp

Trenton
07-07-2013, 08:49 PM
if u don't know timetells ur beginner of pvp He... JUST said that he's popular... Meaning that.. He probably knows him...

Trenton
07-07-2013, 08:50 PM
Blch u barreled me :( If you're cussing all over the forums, ur beginner of forums. Good luck with the infraction.

Reunegade
07-07-2013, 08:56 PM
Yeah, instead if you want to rage on the forums you should use stars. See? ****

Spyce
07-07-2013, 09:48 PM
He... JUST said that he's popular... Meaning that.. He probably knows him...

He taught me the ways of 12.
Everyone knows him.

Entertaining
07-07-2013, 10:36 PM
"the ways of 12," lmao, as if there is much to learn XD

Autq
07-07-2013, 10:55 PM
If you're cussing all over the forums, ur beginner of forums. Good luck with the infraction. who said BLCH is a cussing ?? Mm can't find it on dictionary

Nutslammer
07-07-2013, 11:09 PM
He taught me the ways of 12.
Everyone knows him.

Not just for 12, but for low level pvp in general with bears. And guys I think he was jk when he said blch

Autq
07-07-2013, 11:14 PM
Not just for 12, but for low level pvp in general with bears. And guys I think he was jk when he said blch people can't take a joke, and plus how does he know I'm cussing all around the forum, I'm getting creeped

Reunegade
07-08-2013, 07:23 AM
people can't take a joke, and plus how does he know I'm cussing all around the forum, I'm getting creeped
Yeah, well you can't purposely use any misspellings instead of the actual word either, so...

Autq
07-08-2013, 09:00 AM
Yeah, well you can't purposely use any misspellings instead of the actual word either, so... sorry my bad my actual word was "beach"

Reunegade
07-08-2013, 11:11 AM
You could've just said beach then.

Spyce
07-08-2013, 11:30 AM
You could've just said beach then.

Somtimes I like to say "Bleach"

Sryyoulose
07-08-2013, 03:26 PM
Or batch, like YOU BATCH OF CUPCAKES

Anyways back on track great guide and for those of you who dont believe there's a lot to know in low level it's because you were pre forg and pre base skill points.

Nutslammer
07-08-2013, 03:45 PM
Or batch, like YOU BATCH OF CUPCAKES

Anyways back on track great guide and for those of you who dont believe there's a lot to know in low level it's because you were pre forg and pre base skill points.

Thanks for the comment about the actual topic :)

TheBeastXD
07-08-2013, 04:05 PM
All Sniper gear = 1 more hit % than jewel thief gear.
I mean I bought archer 4 pack a while ago and only "sniper" item I got is the armor is there a percentage to get sniper items

Nutslammer
07-08-2013, 05:19 PM
I mean I bought archer 4 pack a while ago and only "sniper" item I got is the armor is there a percentage to get sniper items

You have a 50% chance to get every Sniper's helm Sniper's Armor Sniper's Wing and Sniper's Talon. It's rare to get all of them in 1 package. You might have to keep buying until you get them separately

Entertaining
07-08-2013, 09:56 PM
Or batch, like YOU BATCH OF CUPCAKES

Anyways back on track great guide and for those of you who dont believe there's a lot to know in low level it's because you were pre forg and pre base skill points.
I assume you're talking about me, and I've been pvping low level for AWHILE so i know what I am talking about when i say there isn't much to learn.

EDIT: The hard part is taking the small amount that you learned and perfecting it ;)

Nutslammer
07-10-2013, 12:14 AM
This guide makes it look like a lot, but the real thing you need to know is just basics and timing. I try to explain other things that may affect your battles as best I can but in the end it's down to you :)

floats
07-11-2013, 10:36 AM
Yeah, he even uses pics and all sorts of stuff for better understanding. Nice guide!

Autq
07-11-2013, 08:32 PM
I love you

TheBeastXD
07-14-2013, 01:23 AM
is there a build for 15 bears? >.>

Blastyou
07-14-2013, 08:52 AM
is there a build for 15 bears? >.>

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?78297-Level-15-Bear-Guide&highlight=bear+guide

Entertains
01-16-2015, 06:15 PM
i recommend art since there are too many 15s in my opinion

AppleNoob
01-17-2015, 01:16 AM
i recommend art since there are too many 15s in my opinion

Necro.

HeyitsTubs
01-17-2015, 08:33 PM
lol, ur the first guy to say necro lol. always.

Vvriter
01-20-2015, 10:02 PM
Good guide, Timetells.

Etarbitrev
01-21-2015, 05:40 PM
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