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Venom
08-11-2013, 11:27 AM
First of all, stop making posts saying 'Luck amulet broken' or 'Reroll doesnt work' or 'Crates give bad drops' and 'No mythics after 100+ crates'. It all depends on luck. STS or devs don't force you to open crates, they are an optional part of the game. You spend on them and open them coz you like it and you choose to. So enough venting out the same feeling on here over n over, its not STS or devs' fault that you don't get mythics. Its designed to be that way!!!

I got tired of reading all those threads on 'Reroll not working' and 'Crates give crap' so decided to make a thread explaining how it works. Here I have used the simplest form, a Pie Chart! Now, Look at it as a Wheel of Luck, which will rotate every time a 'Loot Drop' event occurs. This wheel will decide what you get!

Disclaimer: The percentage or values/proportions of loot drops shown in the diagrams or used in the topic may or may not be accurate. Its just an example of how things work. Instead of wheel, devs may be using a randomizer, or anything! This is the simplest way to explain.

Now, What is a reroll?? A reroll simply means, you get better loot instead of what you were going to get. Say a mob was gonna drop you a 'common' rarity item. If you successfully reroll, you may get 'rare' rarity item. If you were gonna get an 'epic' rarity item, you may reroll for a 'legendary' item. Get the point? It might even give you a better item according to the system from the same class. You might reroll for another epic or legendary too, just a better one according to the system.

Scenario 1: Running on Elixir/Amulet/Stacked

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This wheel rotates whenever you are running on a 25% luck elixir and a loot drop event occurs. Where the arrow ends, decides whether you get a reroll or not. Now when you combine it with Leprechaun Pendant, your chances of rerolling are increased to 40% and when you stack with combo, they increase even more. If you are running on just a Leprechaun Pendant, its just a 15% chance, so it may or may not work very often. Has worked for me fine during bosses as well as mobs, so its definitely not broken.

Scenario 2: When the reroll happens!!

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Now, you have gotten lucky and rerolled for better loot! What now? What you gonna get? This wheel decides what you get. For example you have rerolled for a legendary item, you may get a piece of equipment, an egg or a locked crate.

Scenario 3: When you crack open those chests n crates!!

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Here I have added the 'common' category for the common gold drops from crates. Elite or normal chests don't drop common items.
This is the wheel that decides what you drop from crates/chests. For example, every time you open a locked crate or a chest, this wheel rotates thrice, deciding your 3 loot drops.

So, to score a Glacian's Egg from a locked crate, it has to go this way: One of the 3 rotations of the wheel has to be on 'Arcane' rarity. Then its sub-wheel which consists of arcane rarity items list will rotate, that has to end on 'Glacian's Egg'.

Note: Using a luck elixir or amulet while opening a crate/chest DOES NOT change what you get. Luck elixir has nothing to do with what you get from chests or crates. You won't see a message saying 'your elixir let you reroll for better loot' when you open these chests n crates.

So basically, it all comes down to luck! People have scored Mauls from Elite Golden Warchests! Now that's really lucky.

Okay, I am done now. Hope this helps you understand how luck works on AL.

Note to Devs: If any Dev would like to shed some more light on this, would be appreciated :)

utpal
08-11-2013, 11:41 AM
wow.
so like this luck works.
btw wat is locked crates and lepre amulet or wat it called .

Spyce
08-11-2013, 12:15 PM
Very productive guide.

DocDoBig
08-11-2013, 12:20 PM
I was always a fan of charts! ;)

Great job Def!

Meljann
08-11-2013, 12:22 PM
Ty for creating this I was also getting tired of reading other complaing threads

Xbuddyjosh
08-11-2013, 01:17 PM
Awesome!

Wowsome
08-11-2013, 01:31 PM
Now, What is a reroll?? A reroll simply means, you get higher loot instead of what you were going to get. Say a mob was gonna drop you a 'common' rarity item. If you successfully reroll, you get 'rare' rarity item. If you were gonna get an 'epic' rarity item, you reroll for a 'legendary' item. Get the point?


actually... here is a dev post indicating that it is possible to re-roll from one "common" to another "common".


"My impression of the luck elixir that if you were to get an item, say a purple (epic) item, it would have a chance to re-roll and bump your item to the next level of rarity, (legendary in this case)."

You are re-rolling from one loot table to another loot table. Loot tables can contain from 1 to however many items the designer assigns to it. So, for example, if you are in the lowest loot table (with its list of items) and get a re-roll on a common, it's entirely possible that the next higher loot table (with its own list of items) also contains some commons that you have a chance at rolling to, as I understand it. Mostly, you'll get a better item but sometimes not.

Hope this helps.

Y O L O
08-11-2013, 01:32 PM
Btw bro how do you do charts n graphs on forums?

Venom
08-11-2013, 01:35 PM
You know me.. I Hax ;)

DocDoBig
08-11-2013, 01:37 PM
Btw bro how do you do charts n graphs on forums?

Excel and paint for the arrow! ;)

Ebezaanec
08-11-2013, 01:38 PM
Loot re-rolls don't always give you loot that is one class up. It re-rolls you into another loot table that could have loot that is one class up. The system consist of many loot tables that the Devs do not disclose.

For example: If you were to loot a Legendary item from an elite boss and Loot Re-roll was activated. What would happen? Would you loot a mythic?

Since this cannot happen, the game would re-roll you into another Legendary item and the system would have to randomly choose which of the two items would be your received loot. If that would be the case, then it would be safe to assume that this scenario could apply to other classes of items (common, green, epic)

Now I could be wrong, but this is just a theory.

Venom
08-11-2013, 01:51 PM
actually... here is a dev post indicating that it is possible to re-roll from one "common" to another "common".

Thanks, will add it to the topic.


Excel and paint for the arrow! ;)

Just Powerpoint and then screenshot.


Loot re-rolls don't always give you loot that is one class up. It re-rolls you into another loot table that could have loot that is one class up. The system consist of many loot tables that the Devs do not disclose.

For example: If you were to loot a Legendary item from an elite boss and Loot Re-roll was activated. What would happen? Would you loot a mythic?

Since this cannot happen, the game would re-roll you into another Legendary item and the system would have to randomly choose which of the two items would be your received loot. If that would be the case, then it would be safe to assume that this scenario could apply to other classes of items (common, green, epic)

Now I could be wrong, but this is just a theory.

Anything is possible, I don't claim what I posted is entirely accurate, its just a general explanation for players to understand it better.

Energizeric
08-11-2013, 02:17 PM
BTW, I believe eggs/crates are in the same loot table as chests and they are simply the "legendary" rarity items from that loot table:

White/Common = Copper Chest
Green/Rare = Silver Chest
Purple/Epic = Gold Chest
Pink/Legendary = Locked Grand Crate of the Watch/Egg

So there are occasions when a luck elixir may actually bump you from an Elite Golden Chest to a Locked Grand Crate of the Watch, which if course most would consider a downgrade. But it can happen.

savie
08-11-2013, 02:21 PM
Overall an awesome guide to people wondering how such things work. *thumbs up*

Puntus
08-11-2013, 02:40 PM
nice post!
In your thread we can prove drope arcane or mythic items re very rare and u need have very lucky like when u goes to casino and play black jack ( if udont know how count cards obviously ) and u get black jack

MasterGT
08-11-2013, 02:42 PM
Wow this is awesome!

Venom
08-11-2013, 03:33 PM
BTW, I believe eggs/crates are in the same loot table as chests and they are simply the "legendary" rarity items from that loot table:

White/Common = Copper Chest
Green/Rare = Silver Chest
Purple/Epic = Gold Chest
Pink/Legendary = Locked Grand Crate of the Watch/Egg

So there are occasions when a luck elixir may actually bump you from an Elite Golden Chest to a Locked Grand Crate of the Watch, which if course most would consider a downgrade. But it can happen.

Totally Possible :) We know Elite chests worth more than crates but system would consider Legendary Crate to be of a higher value.

Insomniack
08-11-2013, 03:45 PM
Great guide, and finally an answer to all those similar threads out there. Majority of this is well known to me, but 2 things I must ask, that are still not clear to me:

1- Do chests/crates fall under the same table with eggs? As I have read somewhere a while ago, if you would get a chests with an original drop, after a successful reroll you have a chance at crate/egg drop? True or not?

2- This question is more important to me, might consider it top priority to know at this moment: luck/combo/lepre amu DO NOT effect what you will get from chests and more important crates? True or not true? Cuz to my current knowledge, opening crates with luck/combo/lepre amu give you better chance at mythic/arcane loot. That's what I was told, not that I had much luck with few of my attempts, but again, would be nice knowing if this doesn't affect hits from crates/chests at all.. Have devs ever confirmed that?

Thanks in advance for answering, whoever find time to answer :)

Once again, nice guide. Respect.

Alfai
08-11-2013, 04:16 PM
Defamed and kalizzaa's research on the technical aspect of AL is very impressive.kudos for this as not all understands the maths and calvulations behind this.up till now i hv no idea how to use the calculator stats. Thank you for sharing this very useful.

Alrissia to for pve guide.

Kudos peeps.

Venom
08-11-2013, 04:55 PM
Great guide, and finally an answer to all those similar threads out there. Majority of this is well known to me, but 2 things I must ask, that are still not clear to me:

1- Do chests/crates fall under the same table with eggs? As I have read somewhere a while ago, if you would get a chests with an original drop, after a successful reroll you have a chance at crate/egg drop? True or not?

2- This question is more important to me, might consider it top priority to know at this moment: luck/combo/lepre amu DO NOT effect what you will get from chests and more important crates? True or not true? Cuz to my current knowledge, opening crates with luck/combo/lepre amu give you better chance at mythic/arcane loot. That's what I was told, not that I had much luck with few of my attempts, but again, would be nice knowing if this doesn't affect hits from crates/chests at all.. Have devs ever confirmed that?

Thanks in advance for answering, whoever find time to answer :)

Once again, nice guide. Respect.

1) Don't think so. Top Elite Chests are epic, Crates and Eggs are Legendary. So Crates and Eggs should fall under same category.

2) As i have said in my post, luck elixir/amulet does not affect what you get from chest/crate. I think it was H2N who commented this in chat window on forum once. Also, if they did affect, it would give a notification right? *your elixir let you reroll for better loot*

Insomniack
08-11-2013, 05:12 PM
2) As i have said in my post, luck elixir/amulet does not affect what you get from chest/crate. I think it was H2N who commented this in chat window on forum once. Also, if they did affect, it would give a notification right? *your elixir let you reroll for better loot*

Thanks alot for answering me. That's all I needed to know. Plus coming with a confirmation from developer, will save me 40 plats for combo/luck when opening crates. :) Thanks one more time.

Gesaffelstein
08-11-2013, 05:17 PM
Guide section? haha
Nice guide mate :) very clear

xoxo

Energizeric
08-11-2013, 05:46 PM
Great guide, and finally an answer to all those similar threads out there. Majority of this is well known to me, but 2 things I must ask, that are still not clear to me:

1- Do chests/crates fall under the same table with eggs? As I have read somewhere a while ago, if you would get a chests with an original drop, after a successful reroll you have a chance at crate/egg drop? True or not?

2- This question is more important to me, might consider it top priority to know at this moment: luck/combo/lepre amu DO NOT effect what you will get from chests and more important crates? True or not true? Cuz to my current knowledge, opening crates with luck/combo/lepre amu give you better chance at mythic/arcane loot. That's what I was told, not that I had much luck with few of my attempts, but again, would be nice knowing if this doesn't affect hits from crates/chests at all.. Have devs ever confirmed that?

Thanks in advance for answering, whoever find time to answer :)

Once again, nice guide. Respect.

Just look at where they go in your inventory. I think it's quite obvious they are in the same drop table. If they weren't then I think gold chests would be pink, not purple.

Venom
08-11-2013, 06:17 PM
Just look at where they go in your inventory. I think it's quite obvious they are in the same drop table. If they weren't then I think gold chests would be pink, not purple.

That's the 'Type' you are talking about.. Rarity is 'Quality' of the loot. When they say same table, they mean quality of the loot. Chests fall under epic, crates/eggs under legendary.

If you're dropping an epic weapon, without a reroll, it has to be like Wheelspin->Epic->Weapon->Sacred shield of will.

Now, that could even be categorized like Epic->Weapon->Warrior->Sacred shield of will. Quite a lot of possibilities, its just faster when the computer does it :/ All the devs do is make a list and categorize the items and program the randomizer/shuffler which decides what you get as loot drop.

Insomniack
08-11-2013, 07:02 PM
So reroll on original copper chest would be lets say silver, on silver would be gold .. Reroll on golden chest would be crate? My question was based on probability of getting eggs, or to put it that way, reroll on which original drop would result in me getting an egg?

Alhuntrazeck
08-11-2013, 08:08 PM
Nice guide!
So, basically, each boss has a selected amount of loot and each time u reroll u get a higher item?

drgrimmy
08-11-2013, 08:35 PM
actually... here is a dev post indicating that it is possible to re-roll from one "common" to another "common".


Loot re-rolls don't always give you loot that is one class up. It re-rolls you into another loot table that could have loot that is one class up. The system consist of many loot tables that the Devs do not disclose.

For example: If you were to loot a Legendary item from an elite boss and Loot Re-roll was activated. What would happen? Would you loot a mythic?

Since this cannot happen, the game would re-roll you into another Legendary item and the system would have to randomly choose which of the two items would be your received loot. If that would be the case, then it would be safe to assume that this scenario could apply to other classes of items (common, green, epic)

Now I could be wrong, but this is just a theory.

Yep, here is a link to that developer's post. I am not quite to sure why they can't give us a straight answer on this, among many other things (eg armor, damage vs bonus damage, etc). Anyways, may not be as straight forward as rerolling to the next higher rarity of an item (eg from purple to pink). Alas, the mystery still continues...

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?97775-Rerolling-to-get-a-green-item-from-a-boss-(shouldn-t-happen)!&highlight=drgrimmy+luck



"My impression of the luck elixir that if you were to get an item, say a purple (epic) item, it would have a chance to re-roll and bump your item to the next level of rarity, (legendary in this case)."

You are re-rolling from one loot table to another loot table. Loot tables can contain from 1 to however many items the designer assigns to it. So, for example, if you are in the lowest loot table (with its list of items) and get a re-roll on a common, it's entirely possible that the next higher loot table (with its own list of items) also contains some commons that you have a chance at rolling to, as I understand it. Mostly, you'll get a better item but sometimes not.

Hope this helps.

Lol, my favorite part: "mostly you'll get a better item but sometimes not." LMAO

klayble
08-11-2013, 08:39 PM
WoWp!!!

Linkincena
08-11-2013, 09:29 PM
Never got a common item when rerolls.

IronMonkey
08-11-2013, 10:39 PM
Pardon my ignorance Defamed, but how did you determine the distribution of the pie in charts 2 and 3?

Venom
08-12-2013, 01:26 AM
So reroll on original copper chest would be lets say silver, on silver would be gold .. Reroll on golden chest would be crate? My question was based on probability of getting eggs, or to put it that way, reroll on which original drop would result in me getting an egg?

Reroll on copper = reroll on a 'common' rarity item.. You may get any rare item as its considered as 'higher' valued loot by the system. If you talk about eggs they fall under 'Legendary' category, your original drop most probably has to be an 'epic' item.


Nice guide!
So, basically, each boss has a selected amount of loot and each time u reroll u get a higher item?

That is actually kind of correct, as you see ALL bosses are able to drop Chests, Crates. When it comes to gear or eggs, only selected bosses drop those specific eggs or gear pieces. For example, you don't see Bloodhammer dropping a malison egg XD. Firesquid is dropped only by the boss at Elite Palm Rock Island.

So what I believe is, All bosses have access to drop chests and crates (even here, they have Elite vs Normal chests depending on the boss type and location since there are Banded, Warchests, etc) but specific gear is accessible only to a specific boss. It gets interesting, I have farmed Elite Bael II many times, he either drops Elite Golden Warchest or a Legendary gear. That shows he doesn't have access to crates (Didn't drop a crate when i farmed him 30-40 times when he was just released, i was on reroll). Gotta love STS devs XD


Pardon my ignorance Defamed, but how did you determine the distribution of the pie in charts 2 and 3?

It's just an example, read my Disclaimer in the original post. Those values may be close to real or way off, its just to give players an idea.

jabu69
08-12-2013, 05:27 AM
knew all of this except the fact that you can reroll and get a downgrade or something of the same rarity.

really well played

Destroyerfour
08-12-2013, 05:49 AM
Nice

Insomniack
08-12-2013, 10:18 AM
Ahhh get it now. Tnx alot for taking your time to answer all of my annoying questions. :)

baddiva
08-12-2013, 01:35 PM
another question sir. I know that chests has its own item lvl for each type... (except for elite chests)... but for crates, do the lvl of the character affects the lvl of the items that it gets? I mean, can a lvl 1 character to get lv 31 legendary items when opening crates? or the item lvl will maxxed to the lvl of the character who opened the crates...

sorry for my noobiness, I'm just thinking to get the first extra 50% plats :)

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Venom
08-12-2013, 03:01 PM
another question sir. I know that chests has its own item lvl for each type... (except for elite chests)... but for crates, do the lvl of the character affects the lvl of the items that it gets? I mean, can a lvl 1 character to get lv 31 legendary items when opening crates? or the item lvl will maxxed to the lvl of the character who opened the crates...

sorry for my noobiness, I'm just thinking to get the first extra 50% plats :)

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If you are a lvl 5 and open crates, the Legendary gear that you get will be your level that is lvl 5. If you score a mythic helm, it will be lvl 26. Mythic armors lvl 31.

jabu69
08-13-2013, 12:17 AM
If you are a lvl 5 and open crates, the Legendary gear that you get will be your level that is lvl 5. If you score a mythic helm, it will be lvl 26. Mythic armors lvl 31.
and what about arcane? is that possible as lvl 5?

Venom
08-13-2013, 01:43 AM
and what about arcane? is that possible as lvl 5?

Yes, totally possible to score arcane weapons or eggs at low level too.

IronMonkey
08-13-2013, 02:59 AM
You might also add that no matter what level you are when you open crates you'll get the same chance as everyone else. The level of the player does not matter. Before, I thought that lower levels have a greater chance because the number of items/gears FOR lower levels are few as compared to higher leveled player. Guess I was wrong.

Drearivev
08-17-2013, 11:00 AM
Thank you very much for this!
I'm pretty sure you got most percentages pretty bang on.

Taejo
08-17-2013, 02:16 PM
You might also add that no matter what level you are when you open crates you'll get the same chance as everyone else. The level of the player does not matter. Before, I thought that lower levels have a greater chance because the number of items/gears FOR lower levels are few as compared to higher leveled player. Guess I was wrong.

This seems circumstantial (by how a crate event is coded) and a bit uncertain. We remember the last mythic weapons weekend where they had to hotfix crates because lower level players were getting more legendary items than normal. But yes, in general the level does not matter.

Venom
10-26-2013, 12:04 AM
Hello everyone!

Eski
10-27-2013, 12:29 PM
Nice thread but,can you explaine why some people(dont want to tell names)have enourmus luck?,i mean if there is a new awsome item they are the first who get them,and this again and again
In my eyes that has nothing to do with luck

Venom
10-27-2013, 12:59 PM
Nice thread but,can you explaine why some people(dont want to tell names)have enourmus luck?,i mean if there is a new awsome item they are the first who get them,and this again and again
In my eyes that has nothing to do with luck

Those people (no names) have the money to buy the items from the looters. So whoever loots a new item, shouts in town or lists in auction, it gets bought.

conradev
10-27-2013, 03:19 PM
Aside from the initial reroll % this is not how it works IMO.

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Venom
10-27-2013, 03:30 PM
Aside from the initial reroll % this is not how it works IMO.

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Feel free to share your thoughts :)

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Yobotak
11-03-2013, 05:11 AM
Tested And proven with 8000 plats spent.at least 60% used on maxing out reroll Max % 30+25+15=combo elixir plus 25%and lepre`s 15%....it says chance to reroll ur loots.but never did it ever mention for better or worst!u could had looted 300plat and instead reroll to 2k gold.just sharin My 2cents worth of true exp with 8 plat left but never a pet,mystic nor arcane items once from locked


yobotak

Sky_is_epicgearz
11-12-2013, 05:05 PM
Nice guild don't want to put you down or anything but, and this is a big but "." I don't believe it is a wheel system for locked crates.... Have you notice when u looted your first mythic or arcane from a locked crate that the achievement red letter day/orange with envy showed up as the first item was shown? When I looted arcane it showed that I had gotten the achievement in the background before I saw that I had looted hj..... So that got me thinking.... I believe it's a system sts has... I'll try to explain as best as I can now I think this works

Ok here goes :0

The system is set out like this:

Locked crate loot:
5. 2000 gold, 2000 gold, 2000 gold
4. Devour bow of potency, 2000 gold, 2000 gold
3. 5000 gold, 5 platinum, hammerjaws egg
2. 100 platinum, 2000 gold, 2000 gold
1. 2000 gold, 2000 gold, 2000 gold

Ok so lets say that someone opens a crate.... They will receive what's at the number 1 position on the system. That means that what is at the number 1 position is now eliminated.... Do u see where I'm going with this?
Lets say another person opens a crate they will receive 100 platinum, 2000 gold, 2000 gold
Then another lucky person opens a crate they will be the one that loot the arcane pet :)

Obviously sts has a much larger system than this for the loot given from different chests.... Mine was just for demonstrating ;)

I hope I explained clearly how I think this works :) correct me if in wrong lol I hope I'm not.... It's just what I observed and I'm forming a judgement from that on how the system works..

P.s. devs if u are reading this I am not spy 0.0 please don't ban me eikkk

Venom
11-16-2013, 04:26 PM
Nice guild don't want to put you down or anything but, and this is a big but "." I don't believe it is a wheel system for locked crates.... Have you notice when u looted your first mythic or arcane from a locked crate that the achievement red letter day/orange with envy showed up as the first item was shown? When I looted arcane it showed that I had gotten the achievement in the background before I saw that I had looted hj..... So that got me thinking.... I believe it's a system sts has... I'll try to explain as best as I can now I think this works

Ok here goes :0

The system is set out like this:

Locked crate loot:
5. 2000 gold, 2000 gold, 2000 gold
4. Devour bow of potency, 2000 gold, 2000 gold
3. 5000 gold, 5 platinum, hammerjaws egg
2. 100 platinum, 2000 gold, 2000 gold
1. 2000 gold, 2000 gold, 2000 gold

Ok so lets say that someone opens a crate.... They will receive what's at the number 1 position on the system. That means that what is at the number 1 position is now eliminated.... Do u see where I'm going with this?
Lets say another person opens a crate they will receive 100 platinum, 2000 gold, 2000 gold
Then another lucky person opens a crate they will be the one that loot the arcane pet :)

Obviously sts has a much larger system than this for the loot given from different chests.... Mine was just for demonstrating ;)

I hope I explained clearly how I think this works :) correct me if in wrong lol I hope I'm not.... It's just what I observed and I'm forming a judgement from that on how the system works..

P.s. devs if u are reading this I am not spy 0.0 please don't ban me eikkk

Interesting. So you you mean there's one long list of items in the 'system' and whenever someone opens a crate, top 3 items get deducted from that list. Who maintains that list anyway? The item generation, how many Arcane items to put or how many ceommon/rare items to put on the list, how is that managed?

Sky_is_epicgearz
11-16-2013, 07:10 PM
Interesting. So you you mean there's one long list of items in the 'system' and whenever someone opens a crate, top 3 items get deducted from that list. Who maintains that list anyway? The item generation, how many Arcane items to put or how many ceommon/rare items to put on the list, how is that managed?

Well I certainly can't tell you who does the maintenance or who decides how many arcane items will be be added to the system every hour.. And it's not the top 3 items on the list that gets picked..
Put it this way... You have one peas pod (lol) and inside the peas pod there are 3 peas ;) lets say that a pea is one item you get (eg hammerjaw or 2k gold) and a peas pod consists of 3 peas.
When you open a crate you don't get 3 peas but 1 peas pod... Try not to think that when you open a crate you are getting 3 items separately. What you are getting is a group of items. If you think about it there is a difference


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Worship
11-16-2013, 07:21 PM
That 3rd wheel doesn't change with luck elixirs/ammys right?
If so.. then I have been lied to my whole life..

Milan Lame Man
11-16-2013, 09:19 PM
Well I think it couldn't be a coincidence that Squash dropped like crazy during the first few hours then it cooled down. The loot *might* adjust according to number of items in the system.
No hard numbers though... just a feeling.

Venom
11-17-2013, 02:59 AM
That 3rd wheel doesn't change with luck elixirs/ammys right?
If so.. then I have been lied to my whole life..

Luck elixir/amu has nothing to do with what you get from crates/chests. Luck amulet/elixir only affects the loot drops from Bosses/mobs.

Sky_is_epicgearz
11-17-2013, 03:41 AM
That 3rd wheel doesn't change with luck elixirs/ammys right?
If so.. then I have been lied to my whole life..

If it makes you feel any better ;P I always wear my Leprechaun when opening crates.... It makes me feel lucky lol then I do I quick prayer then I open 'em.....sounds silly right?


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Alfai
11-17-2013, 11:25 AM
Lep amu has nothing to do with opening crates.do u expect to reroll by wearing it in town?

Abaskiiaf
11-25-2013, 09:47 PM
Nice idea venom I also have thought it this. Not that far tho but with the mythic weapons and how they only let a set amount of people get them. I.e 20 mythic daggers only.

thememeguy
11-28-2013, 01:48 AM
Is it true that a certain skills can make you reroll more? My friends keep on telling me that if I kill a boss with 'Lightning' it should reroll more often.

Venom
11-28-2013, 01:57 AM
Is it true that a certain skills can make you reroll more? My friends keep on telling me that if I kill a boss with 'Lightning' it should reroll more often.

This happens in the games where rewards are calculated by MVP system. The one who deals most dmg gets the best stuff. We tried testing that in AL back during the Mines of Nordia days. It doesn't matter, drops are random. Even rerolls, if you deal most dmg it doesn't guarantee you a reroll, its still the % chance of reroll.

Sky_is_epicgearz
11-28-2013, 06:40 AM
ill would like to try this on bael ii where i dont need to reroll ;)

Doomreaper
11-28-2013, 10:44 PM
thanks a lot. Now I know how hard it is to get an arcane pet.

Jaqualina
11-29-2013, 12:51 AM
Great post Venom, maybe the complaints will cease now! ;)

Dill1sHere
11-29-2013, 06:16 PM
wow.
so like this luck works.
btw wat is locked crates and lepre amulet or wat it called .
Wat it called is wat you sayd

Approximation
02-20-2014, 12:37 AM
Nice

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intruders
01-10-2015, 04:58 AM
From my own experience of farming/opening crates loot distribution in loot tables is not the same all the time. Once I had been farming locked crates for 1 hour with luck elixir + lepre (i.e. 40% of loot re-roll chance) and didn't get even a single crate. But sometimes crates drops very often. The same with opening chests/crates.

So, as for me it looks that loot share in loot table (sectors on diagrams in the first posts) is being changed over the time - sometimes it is bigger and you get more better loot than usual and vice versa :)

jioleca
03-04-2015, 09:20 AM
Nice guide

Wolfie
03-06-2015, 01:27 AM
very helpful

wade001
03-07-2015, 08:14 AM
thanks