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csb
08-16-2013, 05:56 PM
It would take 3 days to save up enough gold to buy my DH 5 to 6 upgrade. But if I keep getting attacked, then how am I supposed to save up the gold? Suppose I am attacked every 12 hours, and get a 12hr guardian each time. I lose 25% of my gold in each attack. Then, mathematically, I would have the following:


Day NumberCollectTotalLoseNew Total
0.00000
0.515000015000037500112500
1.015000026250065625196875
1.515000034687586719260156
2.0150000410256102539307617
2.5150000457617114404343213
3.0150000493213123303369910
...............
14.0150000599810149952449857
14.5150000599857149964449893
15.0150000599893149973449920


So, if we take this to an infinite number of days, the player trying to save gold for upgrading a DH from level 5 to 6 will never have more than 450k gold.

glengon
08-16-2013, 07:27 PM
It would take 3 days to save up enough gold to buy my DH 5 to 6 upgrade. But if I keep getting attacked, then how am I supposed to save up the gold? Suppose I am attacked every 12 hours, and get a 12hr guardian each time. I lose 25% of my gold in each attack. Then, mathematically, I would have the following:


Day NumberCollectTotalLoseNew Total
0.00000
0.515000015000037500112500
1.015000026250065625196875
1.515000034687586719260156
2.0150000410256102539307617
2.5150000457617114404343213
3.0150000493213123303369910
...............
14.0150000599810149952449857
14.5150000599857149964449893
15.0150000599893149973449920


So, if we take this to an infinite number of days, the player trying to save gold for upgrading a DH from level 5 to 6 will never have more than 450k gold.
Lol simple: do not leave tthe game when you have lots of gold. Farm all the way till you have 750k and upgrade your hall. Also, you don't have to upgrade right away. Wait till you get a lucky day, for example, if today you get 200k ffrom a random guy, it makes your life easier so try to earn the oother 550k. However if today you constantly find poor people, then its hard to earn hold today for your hall.
Btw if you have to leave, protect your gold instead of dh, so if people attack your dh you get free guardian withou losing resources. And do not rely on your mines for gold. Farm it.

csb
08-16-2013, 08:29 PM
Lol simple: do not leave the game when you have lots of gold. Farm all the way till you have 750k and upgrade your hall.
It takes 30-45 minutes to regenerate my army after PvP.

I use the following:
14 x L3 Spitter = 1680 sheep
14 x L3 Gobbler = 840 sheep
18 x L2 Crusher = 18000 sheep
14 x L1 Bomber = 28000 sheep
12 x L2 Smasher = 18000 sheep
2 x L2 Fire Storm = 36000 gold

Total = 66520 sheep, and 36000 gold

Since I have a lot of cups, I get matched with level 5,6,7 in PvP. Sometimes I need all those troops to finish the battle. I suppose if I lose all my cups, i may get easier matches so I can spend less on troops. I have not tried that yet. But, the bottom line is that I will run out of sheep before I earn 750k gold. I try not to use Fire Storm, but the maps I get in PvP are sometimes not possible without the nukes.

So, "do not leave the game when you have lots of gold"... i agree, and I do this. I would just have to buy walls to avoid having the gold stolen, since I can only hide 36k gold from attackers. So, I cannot save a lot of gold.

And, "Farm all the way till you have 750k"... is impossible, since I will run out of sheep. And, even if I had endless sheep, it would take about 20 hours straight due to the amount of time it takes to rebuild the army between battles.


Btw if you have to leave, protect your gold instead of dh, so if people attack your dh you get free guardian withou losing resources. And do not rely on your mines for gold. Farm it.

Yes, I see that high level players often have the DH exposed. Often, if I can't win, at least I take out the DH, since I have been going for cups. I suppose I am doing them a favor.

Valsacar
08-16-2013, 10:05 PM
Your army is way too expensive, try a cheaper one. I use only spitters, gobbs, and brawlers and farm just fine with that.

glengon
08-17-2013, 05:36 AM
It takes 30-45 minutes to regenerate my army after PvP.

I use the following:
14 x L3 Spitter = 1680 sheep
14 x L3 Gobbler = 840 sheep
18 x L2 Crusher = 18000 sheep
14 x L1 Bomber = 28000 sheep
12 x L2 Smasher = 18000 sheep
2 x L2 Fire Storm = 36000 gold

Total = 66520 sheep, and 36000 gold

Since I have a lot of cups, I get matched with level 5,6,7 in PvP. Sometimes I need all those troops to finish the battle. I suppose if I lose all my cups, i may get easier matches so I can spend less on troops. I have not tried that yet. But, the bottom line is that I will run out of sheep before I earn 750k gold. I try not to use Fire Storm, but the maps I get in PvP are sometimes not possible without the nukes.

So, "do not leave the game when you have lots of gold"... i agree, and I do this. I would just have to buy walls to avoid having the gold stolen, since I can only hide 36k gold from attackers. So, I cannot save a lot of gold.

And, "Farm all the way till you have 750k"... is impossible, since I will run out of sheep. And, even if I had endless sheep, it would take about 20 hours straight due to the amount of time it takes to rebuild the army between battles.



Yes, I see that high level players often have the DH exposed. Often, if I can't win, at least I take out the DH, since I have been going for cups. I suppose I am doing them a favor.

OMFG what are you doing?? 66k?? Why do you need so many crushers?? I use only 8.Why do you need so many bombers?? I use only 0 lol. Why do you need so many smashers?? I use only 6. Why do you use fire spell everytime?? I use it only for emergencies or when i get a rich target. Why do you use so little spitters?? I use 100! Yea i do. How many is your "a lot of cups" anyway? I had 2000 and was doing fine with my army. Looking at your army, its no wonder that you are not earning much. And your army takes 30-45 min to make?? I use 20brawlers, 100 spitters, 8 crushers, 6 smashers/ 20 brawlers 80 spitters, 20 gobblers, 8 crushers, 6 smashers, and they take only 10min LOL. Btw heres a neat trick. Before pvping, queue 2 crushers in each dojo. If you have 4 dojos, after every match, if youll end up with 8 more ready. This means now you just need to make the brawlers, spitters and smashers.

Also, it is possible to win without the fire spells. Use them only for emergencies. Also, always queue fire spells even when you have 2. This means that if you use one, the next one will be made immediately(assuming you have queued it for 30min and its ready), so you have 2 again. One more good tip: Use spitters to destroy defenses. Do not rely on crushers. Use them only as distraction. Then put spitters behind them and watch the dragon get owned by the spitters.

In short, make your army fast and cheap to make, queue troops before pvping, do not use bombers, use more spitters, use less crushers

Rare
08-17-2013, 06:08 AM
I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. I have been sitting on an 800k gold stash for a week now.

If I get attacked I'll lose maybe 100k with a full wipe. I can get that back in one or two battles

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Cahaun
08-18-2013, 08:51 PM
Lol simple: do not leave tthe game when you have lots of gold. Farm all the way till you have 750k and upgrade your hall.
Never ever leave until I get that 750k?

glengon
08-19-2013, 01:10 AM
Lol simple: do not leave tthe game when you have lots of gold. Farm all the way till you have 750k and upgrade your hall.
Never ever leave until I get that 750k?

Lol it doesn't take long. Though I farmed 750k pretty slowly(that was 2weeks ago?), its pretty easy to do it in less than half a day. But now I found a new trick and its possible to farm 750k in 1-2hrs now. (Luck is needed though)

Rare
08-19-2013, 09:06 AM
Definitely not impossible (and actually pretty easy)

I was raided twice in 1 day (The and Hayzz) and lost over 250k gold. About 30 minutes after my gaurdian ran out I had enough back to upgrade dragon hall.


Lol it doesn't take long. Though I farmed 750k pretty slowly(that was 2weeks ago?), its pretty easy to do it in less than half a day. But now I found a new trick and its possible to farm 750k in 1-2hrs now. (Luck is needed though)

Its not really "a trick". Its what a lot of us have been doing for a while now.

Rare
08-19-2013, 09:09 AM
Never ever leave until I get that 750k?

Not necessary if you are PVPing Abe. For example, I saw a couple bases that were worth 190k gold. Unfortunately, I had the wrong army to attack those bases as they were level 7+ DH.

But you really have to make the choice. Growth? Or Trophies?

glengon
08-19-2013, 10:31 AM
Definitely not impossible (and actually pretty easy)

I was raided twice in 1 day (The and Hayzz) and lost over 250k gold. About 30 minutes after my gaurdian ran out I had enough back to upgrade dragon hall.



Its not really "a trick". Its what a lot of us have been doing for a while now.

Lol its because youve always been at a lower trophy level. 100-500? To me who had 2000, its a new trick, and to The, who had 7000 its also new. We do NOT get this kind of farming at higher trophy levels. Farming at 2k is really hard, cause people are really poor(idk why), and effort is needed to get most bases.

In short, to us who had a good amount of trophies before, its a new "trick". Your "us" refers to your tribe?

Rare
08-19-2013, 10:36 AM
Lol its because youve always been at a lower trophy level. 100-500? To me who had 2000, its a new trick, and to The, who had 7000 its also new. We do NOT get this kind of farming at higher trophy levels. Farming at 2k is really hard, cause people are really poor(idk why), and effort is needed to get most bases.

In short, to us who had a good amount of trophies before, its a new "trick". Your "us" refers to your tribe?

No, not the tribe really. Just myself and some others I know. In fact, I don't think IU is super hardcore into PVP like SoA is. I was hoping you guys would stay up there :p I'm just kidding.

Bookmark
08-19-2013, 10:41 AM
Lol its because youve always been at a lower trophy level. 100-500? To me who had 2000, its a new trick, and to The, who had 7000 its also new. We do NOT get this kind of farming at higher trophy levels. Farming at 2k is really hard, cause people are really poor(idk why), and effort is needed to get most bases.

In short, to us who had a good amount of trophies before, its a new "trick". Your "us" refers to your tribe?

This. No one said "it" was a trick. It's a strategy.

At higher trophy count, there is significantly less resources to breakeven. I discarded the idea of "low trophy resource farming" until I found it extremely difficult to strengthen my fortress staying at top without spending considerable amount of pearls. So, I decided to sacrifice the trophies I have accumulated.

Rare
08-19-2013, 11:24 AM
This. No one said "it" was a trick. It's a strategy.

At higher trophy count, there is significantly less resources to breakeven. I discarded the idea of "low trophy resource farming" until I found it extremely difficult to strengthen my fortress staying at top without spending considerable amount of pearls. So, I decided to sacrifice the trophies I have accumulated.

A good strategy indeed. I was only kidding with Chromex BTW. Hope that wasn't misunderstood. Maybe it was to early in the morning for me to make jokes.

glengon
08-19-2013, 11:33 AM
This. No one said "it" was a trick. It's a strategy.

At higher trophy count, there is significantly less resources to breakeven. I discarded the idea of "low trophy resource farming" until I found it extremely difficult to strengthen my fortress staying at top without spending considerable amount of pearls. So, I decided to sacrifice the trophies I have accumulated.

A good strategy indeed. I was only kidding with Chromex BTW. Hope that wasn't misunderstood. Maybe it was to early in the morning for me to make jokes.
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