Your Top Three Things that Need Fixin’ in PL

[Caiahar]

@romantica: They could do that, even as my rhino is str/int still low mana regen :p
Maybe not exactly a mana shield..
A mages mana shield can be easily be worn out by a bear who gets close and uses close up attacks.
Since rhino goes close up and attacks, a bear can make the rhinos mana go down fast.

[Bous]

Only two things...
1)fix the nightmare mage hood, (the hair shows)
2) fix the 2012 rabbit ears (mages bun shows)

Before Humania update
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b490/thebous/1BDEEFB1-4DEF-4C55-8366-63D198940740-1685-000000BC4A74CF08_zpsa39a137b.jpg

After update
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b490/thebous/3E855787-E180-4D52-97AF-B80753478F58-1685-000000BC97A26C03_zps065eacbb.jpg

[Treenire]

Ty for posting screenies bous, I couldnt find mine lol =]

[killbforkilldorshiech]

1) Get rid of all forgotten bows and re-do the forgotten event (give a different vanity helm when the event is over, that way the "forgotten treasure helm" is still valuable. And when it's remade make sure to lower the stats on the forgotten weapons tremendously.
2) put the CS in more places, not everywhere, but just a few more towns (like AL but not EVERY towne)
3) there are lots of different ideas for this one so I'll just put one in: the problem is that some items are way to expensive in game so I think the rarity of some items (mostly crafting) should be lowered.

[Zapoke]

1.
Both foxes and rhinos are underpowered in comparison to birds/elves/bears. The only thing that foxes need to have adjusted is their defensive buff. Everything else seems very good.

Rhinos, however, are extremely weak for tanks. They have no real dodge buffs, low health pool, and no 12 meter range abilities.

2.
Health pools. Way to low for the damage output every class has. I mean, for goodness sake, birds can almost one hit mages with one auto attack.

3.
Armor. After Fang, armor became pointless to stack. Damage became so high that armor couldn't keep it in check.

[gniniatretne]

1. Nerf the forgs
2. Nerf the forgs
3. Nerf the forgs

P.S. Nerf Halloween stuff too

[Apasara]

ALSO, I think that Enchanted gemstone wand set deserves sparkles like every other crafted L55 set. It only has yellow sparkles. Please fix this, I also think that Sewer should have sparkles, and Frozen nightmares pink sets should get a helmet.
And, in general, I wish there were a set for every 1, 3, 5, 6, 8 and 10 levels. Eg1. 11, 13, 15, 16, 18, 20. eg2. 30, 31, 33, 35, 36, 38, 40.

[tHelonestud]

ALSO, I think that Enchanted gemstone wand set deserves sparkles like every other crafted L55 set. It only has yellow sparkles. Please fix this, I also think that Sewer should have sparkles, and Frozen nightmares pink sets should get a helmet.
And, in general, I wish there were a set for every 1, 3, 5, 6, 8 and 10 levels. Eg1. 11, 13, 15, 16, 18, 20. eg2. 30, 31, 33, 35, 36, 38, 40.

2, 4, 7, and 9 would also be pretty cool
I would buy all the level 69 sets

[KingFu]

Oh, and change the sparkles on Demonic wand to red so they match the rest of the set plox.

[Apasara]

Oh, and change the sparkles on Demonic wand to red so they match the rest of the set plox.

True, I wonder why its purple @.@

[Oneandonly]

1. Nerf the "forgotten" weapons
2. Nerf the "Halloween" items
3. Fix the PvP.. There is a bug where high levels are in low lvl games.

[tHelonestud]

Much higher than that my friend.

sorry, I didn't specify, I meant as far as crafted sets. That royal and drainer's could take a nerf as well

[fezisastud]

Justg appreciate the activity, but is anything going to be fixed or is just this to get our hopes up...

[Bous]

Justg appreciate the activity, but is anything going to be fixed or is just this to get our hopes up...

I have a feeling they're just watering down fbows. Then sell them for 500k each. Maybe take more money out of the game? Instead of nerfing them crap shooters. Only time will tell.

[Jig]

Re-design the forg bows and make them some sort of vanity that will be worth the same price, so then not as much gold is lost and what not.... EVERYONE WILL BE X10 HAPPIER!!! besides the poor D.O.G.S

Gobie and his friends won't mind because they pro with everything ;-)

[Gobiiie]

besides the poor D.O.G.S

Gobie and his friends won't mind because they pro with everything ;-)

You got that right Jigginizzyfizwiz yo

Welcome To Gobie Airlines! We Hope You Have A Great Flight!

[xSoft]

Buff the Ranger and Paladin classes.
Nerf forgotten bows
Make Player Vs. Player take skill, no dodge gg

[tarlan]

You got that right Jigginizzyfizwiz yo

Welcome To Gobie Airlines! We Hope You Have A Great Flight!

wow bes

[lakersrockftw]

Nerfing fbows would suck for me I merch them.If there is a way do something that would make them have the same value but not effect pvp that would be amazing. Level 20,30,40 fbows have a pretty big value I don't want them to lose it.

[darthdlo]

is techno still with u guys? She came on ruined the dragon vanities and made an awsome world (BSM) and havent heard anything else from her.
1. Put vanities back how they were
2. new content.... I know I know to much
I would think because its been ssssssssssssssssoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
long since BSM was released that after the AL mage content is out awhile make new here and a lot of ppl will come back. I need my third ring and because of above mentioned "fixes"
I feel no more reason to play. Alot of changes were make and no more content to justify changes.

[Caiahar]

Nerfing fbows would suck for me I merch them.If there is a way do something that would make them have the same value but not effect pvp that would be amazing. Level 20,30,40 fbows have a pretty big value I don't want them to lose it.

You should sell them now, many people are selling them because of this thread.

[Sryyoulose]

1. Guild names disappearing, darn hassle

2. L66+ pvp is just so overpowered its not even fun... And rhino and fox classes out of the picture on most lvls.

3. Anything below 50 is messed up with fbows... But the Hween stuff was a nice counter just keep up the good gear in up-coming events. Honestly, maybe some good armor instead of all this op weaponry. But good gear on holidays, Ty.

[Lovingly]

fbows kinda ruines everything

[billybob1]

fbows kinda ruines everything

not for the merchin folk

[tHelonestud]

I believe Billy needs nerfed as well

[Jig]

Earth needs to be Nerfed.

[Dummeh]

Only thing I'd like to see is the fox being able to break shields, the hypnotize pulling multiple enemies like bears, and rabid bite being able to dash at all levels. Rhinos str should be increased too, also for 76 elite weapons the stats should be lower so most skill points don't go to one attribute, trading of vanities too should be available, pets included... Thank you



P.S we should have a system where the master in guild can black list certain players from joining even if invited from recruiters, and I'd like to be able to jump straight into the guild hall sometimes instead of going through Bally 8)

[Cheenivie]

Only thing I'd like to see is the fox being able to break shields, the hypnotize pulling multiple enemies like bears, and rabid bite being able to dash at all levels. Rhinos str should be increased too, also for 76 elite weapons the stats should be lower so most skill points don't go to one attribute, trading of vanities too should be available, pets included... Thank you



P.S we should have a system where the master in guild can black list certain players from joining even if invited from recruiters, and I'd like to be able to jump straight into the guild hall sometimes instead of going through Bally 8)

So if they do that you realize there will be birds and bears that will be half str half dex with a phoenix bow...

[Chickenrunnn]

Also, enforcing ToS more strictly. There's guys running around with sold android costumes and founders accounts. If I recall, accounts like these were banned promptly, but this does not seem to be the case anymore.

Omg IKR!!

About the guy who bought droid costume.. I have a picture of him telling me "I'm [hisname], I bought it" -.-..

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Give rhino mana shield!

Omg no.. It is already unkillable Full STR it doesn't need a mana shield gowd ._... Lower his heal, give him more damage, and an additional AOE attack, and it should be decent.
Same for fox, add 1 or 2 AOE attack, increase the armor buff duration by 4-5 seconds, but don't increase damage, because end game fox can really be decent when they know how to play.

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Posted by Rushorgtfo

"lower all base damadge by 50% and increase all HP by 50% and decrease all dodge by 50% and all hit by 50 % and crit by 50%"

Ew, damage by 50%; and hp 50%? Rhino would have 1k hp and people would hit 100? with 90 hp regen, I assume rhino would have no problem to win a 5vs1.

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1. Guild names disappearing, darn hassle

2. L66+ pvp is just so overpowered its not even fun... And rhino and fox classes out of the picture on most lvls.

3. Anything below 50 is messed up with fbows... But the Hween stuff was a nice counter just keep up the good gear in up-coming events. Honestly, maybe some good armor instead of all this op weaponry. But good gear on holidays, Ty.

About the 1), they disappear when the player uses a tittle.

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fbows kinda ruines everything

About that, I thought about a way to nerf them, but not too much, to avoid the prices to die.

1) Increase the HP per level as I already spoke about in my post (Page 9, post n°166)

5 (or even 6) additional hp per lvl (makes +25 hp (+30) than lvl1 at lvl5, +50 hp (+60) than lvl1 at lvl10, [...], +5x76=380hp (+6x76= 456) than lvl1 at lvl76) That would make birds with 800 hp, mage with 700 and bear with 1100, rhino 800, and fox 800. Would avoid one shots and full dodge fights. Would rebalance all classes.
Why? because : + Gears with regen such as voodoo would be more efficient : die slower because more HP
+ More regen, which would counter forgotten bow users, who relies on fast fights and auto kills --> More hp = less fast fight = more regen needed = more balanced
2) Lower the attack speed to 1.0. It would counter the "blowing-mana-while-you-have-mana-shield" against mages when they use mana shield, and that they can't use skills anymore.

[nutthebear]

Things that need to be adjusted in this game could be the following....

1) nerf forgotten bows (they are so over powered)

2) nerf l20 rhino pack (that is also over powered)

[Blastyou]

2) nerf l20 rhino pack (that is also over powered)

Yes please.

[Spyce]

Yes please.

The hammer is OP..
I've seen some beat forg bears.

[Apasara]

Not sure if its been mentioned but the viking helmet vanity, and vyxnaar helmets made mages bald. I actually liked Vyx helms when it gave mages black hair. Please fix this.

[Lovingly]

Not sure if its been mentioned but the viking helmet vanity, and vyxnaar helmets made mages bald. I actually liked Vyx helms when it gave mages black hair. Please fix this.

you and the hair... n spakles

[vvishy]

1)Please nerf forgotten items they ruined 10-49 pvp made all the oldies quit it and now dat there are so many people dat can afford it they all use it and when they kill you they start trash talking.

2)Make all health pools higher so the fights aren't just 1-4 short fights and dat people can actually think about there skills and startegies instead of just hitting the first 2 skills on there screen.

3)Take all 9 skills down to 6-7 because 9 is just too op.

Thank you for reading dis :)

[fezisastud]

Even if nothing comes of this thread(which I think will happen) at least it is scaring some forgotten users to quit using it

[BlueSkied]

NERF THE FORGO...wait don't do that.

Make it so Gold doesn't kill me instantly if I have an elixir, please. I farm sewers a lot and this, I don't like.

[Noonan.]

My one and only: Forgotten Bows need to be nerfed in PvP levels 10-49. PvP now requires hardly any thought into builds and item combinations. It also doesn't require as much skill (if any) than before.
Thankyou :)

[Bous]

They should just make them exchangeable for a vanity or make them PvE only

[GELLIO77]

seeing as most of what i think should be done has been said, ill suggest some smaller things that annoy me.

1. make beckon healable, i mean if u heal ice u wont get hot flash combo, just like if u stomp ice u wont get hot flash either.
2. nerf damage, 1 shots are extremely annoying.
3. reduce mages skill delay.. i dont see how its fair that fire is the only insta-skill. birds can fire 2 arrows in the time drain and light takes to hit

[Chickenrunnn]

seeing as most of what i think should be done has been said, ill suggest some smaller things that annoy me.

1. make beckon healable, i mean if u heal ice u wont get hot flash combo, just like if u stomp ice u wont get hot flash either.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :/ bears r very good end game already without.. Stomping to unfreeze can require much skills.



2. nerf damage, 1 shots are extremely annoying.

That, yeah :D! Nerf damage, or increase HP (+ 6 hp per level)



3. reduce mages skill delay.. i dont see how its fair that fire is the only insta-skill. birds can fire 2 arrows in the time drain and light takes to hit

I don't truly agree with that :). Indeed, mage have got mana shields to avoid getting oneshotted/2shotted. birds need to 3 skills at least to kill (Blast, blind repulse/blast, root blind/etc..), which gives the time for mages to hit more than 2 skills. They can even hit more with late mana shield :).
And reducing the damage/increasing HP should fix that problem even easier :)

[tHelonestud]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :/ bears r very good end game already without.. Stomping to unfreeze can require much skills.
I think he meant if you heal after you have been beckoned(mage/rhino) the "smash" combo bonus damage shouldn't happen. Like if someone heals before the blast shot in cruel blast or before the fire in hotflash.

[XghostzX]

seeing as most of what i think should be done has been said, ill suggest some smaller things that annoy me.

1. make beckon healable, i mean if u heal ice u wont get hot flash combo, just like if u stomp ice u wont get hot flash either.
2. nerf damage, 1 shots are extremely annoying.
3. reduce mages skill delay.. i dont see how its fair that fire is the only insta-skill. birds can fire 2 arrows in the time drain and light takes to hit

1.) I can't say I truly agree with this. Bears need some sort of attack mechanism, and if it's healed, they have nothing to work off of.

2.) Well, of course.

3.) This is a no. A bird's role is to inflict lots of damage in a quick amount of time. The difference in a mages delay actually makes them different from a bird - it's what defines the two classes from each other. If a mage had all insta-hit skills PLUS mana shield and heal, well now, that doesn't seem quite fair for birds.

Edit: My reason for number 3 comes from the perspective of a mage :)

[Mothwing]

I'm just going to say this right now, people act as if putting on a forgotten bow automatically makes you God. C'mon guys, be serious. PvP still takes skill. I've seen many Fbow people get absolutely demolished by people with simple melodic bows. The game still takes skill, so please stop acting like Fbows have ruined everything, because I couldn't disagree more. Yes, they do give an advantage, but 3/4 of the people that complain about them use an fbow themselves.

Just please stop with all the "OMGz NERF FBOWS"

It's getting old.

[Justg]

Balance is crazy-hard, so we'll most likely turn a few knobs at a time. Nerfing weapons will be one of the first knobs we turn.

We just want to level out the playing field initially. We'll give free respecs so you guys can help us adjust things as we go.

Much appreciate ALL the feedback, more from our side soon.

- g

[Mothwing]

Balance is crazy-hard, so we'll most likely turn a few knobs at a time. Nerfing weapons will be one of the first knobs we turn.

We just want to level out the playing field initially. We'll give free respecs so you guys can help us adjust things as we go.

Much appreciate ALL the feedback, more from our side soon.

- g

Awesome stuff G, thanks.

[XghostzX]

Balance is crazy-hard, so we'll most likely turn a few knobs at a time. Nerfing weapons will be one of the first knobs we turn.

We just want to level out the playing field initially. We'll give free respecs so you guys can help us adjust things as we go.

Much appreciate ALL the feedback, more from our side soon.

- g

Thanks, G!

[fezisastud]

G i love you

[Blastyou]

3. reduce mages skill delay.. i dont see how its fair that fire is the only insta-skill. birds can fire 2 arrows in the time drain and light takes to hit

Skill delays are a necessary evil; without them mages would be very OP. Once you learn your timing they aren't so bad. I actually like the delay on Drain, it allows for interesting strategy in terms of skill order.

[Caiahar]

Thanks so much g!

[Bous]

Balance is crazy-hard, so we'll most likely turn a few knobs at a time. Nerfing weapons will be one of the first knobs we turn.

We just want to level out the playing field initially. We'll give free respecs so you guys can help us adjust things as we go.

Much appreciate ALL the feedback, more from our side soon.
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- g

There will be so much more variety in lower lvl PvP. I'm psyched! Thanks G

[FluffNStuff]

Just found this thread, and I only have one, which I made a suggestion about, and that is to provide a means complete elite vanity sets if new caps were not on the horizon (This was before the official announcement, but is even more applicable now) .

Here is the post (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?110427-Raise-Elite-Level-to-77):

10/18/12 - This is when the Rings of Valiance and the Ring of Glory came out.
11/21/12 - This is when the Dragon Vanities were turned created, and the Ring of Glory could be crafted with them.
08/07/13 - Today, FluffNStuff is posting another Fluff thread.

So we have:
293 Days: Players with One Elite Vanity that had Zero chance at a Ring.
293 Days: Players with Two Elite Vanities that had Zero Chance at the Ring of Glory.
259 Days: Players with Two Elite Vanities that had Zero Chance at Crafting the Dragon Ring.

I do understand that PL is a fully functioning game with 76 levels. I also recognize that with the number of games STG produces, resources have to be allocated based on an expected rate of return. Creating an entire new area with completely new items and balance might not be a realistic expectation at the present time, especially considering the limitations on PL. I do appreciate that resources are being put to work enhancing the levels we have with the new vanities and weapons (The fact that they are specifically based on older items tells me the game has pretty much hit its limit for new objects).
Now, a level cap raise does not just mean new items and areas, but also the chance at the new Elite Vanity. This system was put in place where (mostly plat paying) players obtained these vanities with the expectation that they would be able to complete the sets. The way the game currently is, these players are left hanging and the game is incomplete to them. I want to ensure that if the resources are not there for full expansions, then there will be some way to handle the Elite Vanity issue.
Now, perhaps raising the Elite Level cap to 77 is not the right idea. How long will that help? What about the level cap at 76? Another idea is to release an Elite Quest every so often and the reward would an Elite Vanity. This way you could change the Quest/ Vanity(Rotate between Armor/Helm) over time if you are looking for a longer term solution. As to the exact solution, well ... that I don't know, but I do know there needs to be A solution.

Anyway, my 1 Fluffy cent.

[Trenton]

Balance is crazy-hard, so we'll most likely turn a few knobs at a time. Nerfing weapons will be one of the first knobs we turn.

We just want to level out the playing field initially. We'll give free respecs so you guys can help us adjust things as we go.

Much appreciate ALL the feedback, more from our side soon.

- g Yay! Iceberg Warbird here I come! :D

[airslash]

Imma do l31 Shivering Bear :D
was fun w/ talon befoh fbow doh.
Hopefully it'll still be fun.

[DocDoBig]

Today it's time, adieu Forg Bows!


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[Justg]

*shifty eyes*

[Roberto077]

:d :d :d

[Itoopeo]

*shifty eyes*

Hmm.. when and how will you fix the fbow issue? Decrease dmg a lot? I just checked L25 fbow has still 95 dmg more than the crystalline bow.

[Justg]

As to when, we have not pushed anything out yet. We'll let ya know.

As to how...

40903

[okakabarah]

Lmao!

Thx so much again G.

[Oldcoot]

My son has one of those, fun for about 30 min now just nerve racking noise maker

[Zentry]

As to when, we have not pushed anything out yet. We'll let ya know.

As to how...

40903

Lol Nerf gun

[Extreme]

S) Forg Bow 1k

[Justg]

S) Forg Bow 1k

You may want to hold until you see what they liquidate for :)

[FluffNStuff]

you may want to hold until you see what they liquidate for :)

brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Blastyou]

You may want to hold until you see what they liquidate for :)

Now the question is how liquidation prices are calculated. This could be genius if it works out right :D

[Justg]

More stuff is coming next week, but let's continue the conversation over here: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?114961-PL-Balance-after-the-Great-Nerf-of-2013