What about lvl 31 mythic weapons now? [Archive]

Energizeric

09-21-2013, 12:28 AM

They were supposed to best ones in this expansion below arcanes...
They were so hard earned. .. :( .. and now struggle for new mythic weapon for this expansion. .
What now STG? .. As you had said lvl 31 mythics will be best below arcanes this expansion. .

Did you really think there wouldn't be any new mythic items this entire expansion?

I think people keep misunderstanding STS. When they were originally asked to explain the two new color rarities (mythic and arcane), they explained that mythics would be better than the best legendary items for 1 more expansion after their release, and arcane would be better than the best legendary items for 2 more expansions after their release. They never said that level 31 mythics would be better than level 36 mythics, and they never said any of them, except for the helm and armor, would be upgraded.

Xstealthxx

09-21-2013, 01:57 AM

Soooo hard time to earn those 31 mythics i agree..

xcainnblecterx

09-21-2013, 02:04 AM

Did you really think there wouldn't be any new mythic items this entire expansion?

I think people keep misunderstanding STS. When they were originally asked to explain the two new color rarities (mythic and arcane), they explained that mythics would be better than the best legendary items for 1 more expansion after their release, and arcane would be better than the best legendary items for 2 more expansions after their release. They never said that level 31 mythics would be better than level 36 mythics, and they never said any of them, except for the helm and armor, would be upgraded.

Ignorance is bliss. From what i can tell most warrios will be happy they have a mythic sword, rogues that like daggers will get mythic ones now unless they have arcane and sorcs that like staffs will be able to have a mythic one if thwy dont have arcane. Not all rogues and sorcs like long distance weapons so this equalled out those that dont. Dont really see a problem here i mean ofc a.mythic staff is going to have more dps then mythic gun but gun has more dmg, same with bow vs dagger, same with sword and shield vs sword. Pick your poison

Terracio

09-21-2013, 02:16 AM

I don't mind new mythic items, what I mind is that with the fornicated up economy this game has it seems only the upper echelon of the population will even stand a chance to enjoy the new items.

Ok so you merched, hustled and farmed your way to a new item, good job guy! Oh wait...new (overpriced) items in some weeks!

And it doesn't just affect the general population but even merchers, selling becomes a pain, sometimes to a loss to get rid of items.

j3peaz

09-21-2013, 05:05 AM

The new myrhics are only available for the weekend so not everyone is going to get one, yet. They will probably be rereleased at some point later on. I believe this is due to the posts of 'no reason to open crates'

CallMeOops

09-21-2013, 07:30 AM

Bullox

09-21-2013, 07:41 AM

The biggest Problem is......

There are so much Mythic/Arcane geared People that its pointless for Legendary equipt People try to PvP....

Chaim Nail

09-21-2013, 07:43 AM

Thanks STS for devaluing my lvl31 mythic weapon.

Big huge thanks.

I really appreciate it.

ElfDreamer

09-21-2013, 08:32 AM

.-. mythic staff have more dps and damage and mythic gun less than!!!
only one mythic gun in AL :| maybe need upgrade to lv36 :(

keikali

09-21-2013, 08:52 AM

Ignorance is bliss. From what i can tell most warrios will be happy they have a mythic sword, rogues that like daggers will get mythic ones now unless they have arcane and sorcs that like staffs will be able to have a mythic one if thwy dont have arcane. Not all rogues and sorcs like long distance weapons so this equalled out those that dont. Dont really see a problem here i mean ofc a.mythic staff is going to have more dps then mythic gun but gun has more dmg, same with bow vs dagger, same with sword and shield vs sword. Pick your poison

Just an FYI, if you have tried on the Mythic Staff compared to the Gun, the staff boosts EVERY stat. Its all GREEN from my end, not red.

And this is with full upgraded mythic on. In terms of stat boosting, it raises every single stat.

The ONLY advantage I still like about the gun is range and the proc it gives off, but other than that give me a staff please.

falmear

09-21-2013, 10:20 AM

.-. mythic staff have more dps and damage and mythic gun less than!!!
only one mythic gun in AL :| maybe need upgrade to lv36 :(

So does the rogue's mythic daggers. It has +12 damage over the mythic bow. If you like a staff I would say get the mythic staff but for me I much prefer a gun. I made this video demonstrating what is possible when using a gun:

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?112903-Solution-to-fix-the-issue-of-rogues-being-OP-in-PvE&p=1258635&viewfull=1#post1258635

I suggest someone try doing the same thing using a staff. It will be a lot harder because you have to be stationary to fire your staff. This is something I went through in season 4 when the nordr jewel was the best damage weapon before they released the mythic gun. In elites where the goal is boss fights, in my opinion its harder to fight elite bosses with a staff. Because you tend to move around a lot more and if you are stationary for too long you become a target. Having both you could switch between the staff and gun as needed. But for me if I am going to have a staff, I will save & buy the arcane staff and not waste 10m gold on something that will be not the best next season, as we have seen with the gun. People need to use some rationale judgement and if they did the prices on these items would drop considerably.

xcainnblecterx

09-21-2013, 11:25 AM

.-. mythic staff have more dps and damage and mythic gun less than!!!
only one mythic gun in AL :| maybe need upgrade to lv36 :(

Dont realise this as im mythic free but like falmear, id still prefer a gun. Either way sts never promised mythics would be best for another expansion

Zeus

09-21-2013, 11:48 AM

What is everybody complaining about? Mythic gun is still the best in its class, as is the bow, and as is the sword.

C'mon guys...

xcainnblecterx

09-21-2013, 01:03 PM

What is everybody complaining about? Mythic gun is still the best in its class, as is the bow, and as is the sword.

C'mon guys...

You should by now bro, sts cant win. When they don't do something people complain then when they do something the other half complains. Seen this.from pl to dl and now al
Off topic, i believe this can predict what next arcanes will be and im sure warrios wont be happy so prepare for that too

Energizeric

09-21-2013, 01:36 PM

Yes, the new weapons are different weapon types than the old weapons, so they were not meant to compete with them. Plus they will be super rare as they are only released for this weekend, and unlike last time they released the old mythic weapons, the drop rates are not boosted this time. So I would expect prices to stay over 10m until some future time when they are re-released.

For now I intend to keep my mythic gun. It's very hard to use a staff in PvP as you have to aim it. I do much better with my gun.

And BTW, for everyone who complains they cannot afford mythic, this will help you because no doubt price on the old mythics are falling due to the release of the new ones. So if you are a sorcerer who could not previously afford the runic gun, now may be your chance to get one in another few days.

Soundlesskill

09-21-2013, 01:45 PM

Ebezaanec

09-21-2013, 01:56 PM

Hard earned.. They're barely 2m now

That's the problem with people... they don't see mythic gear as "gear." They see gear as a stock that must be continuously worried about.

Gear is gear. Sure it was expensive when you bought it, but what was the true reason you bought yours?

The answer is gameplay improvement.

I got my mythic sword when it was still 5m, but now its is border-lining only 1m. I don't complain because during that time, I completed numerous Elite runs, increased my PVE count, and helped many members of my guild. That is how I determine if an item has value. The long-term investment I made by buying it... payed off over time.

Soundlesskill

09-21-2013, 01:58 PM

That's the problem with people... they don't see mythic gear as "gear." They see gear as a stock that must be continuously worried about.

Gear is gear. Sure it was expensive when you bought it, but what was the true reason you bought yours?

The answer is gameplay improvement.

I got my mythic sword when it was still 5m, but now its is border-lining only 1m. I don't complain because during that time, I completed numerous Elite runs, increased my PVE count, and helped many members of my guild. That is how I determine if an item has value. The long-term investment I made by buying it... payed off over time.

[QUOTE=Soundlesskill;1274019]Hard earned.. They're barely 2m NOW/QUOTE]

Please refrain from saying I have problems, or anyone else has problems.

Ebezaanec

09-21-2013, 02:03 PM

[QUOTE=Soundlesskill;1274019]Hard earned.. They're barely 2m NOW/QUOTE]

Please refrain from saying I have problems, or anyone else has problems.

I never said you have problems, or anyone has problems. I was stating that there is a problem with people who see mythics as a stock. Maybe you didn't understand my sentence syntax.

Soundlesskill

09-21-2013, 07:02 PM

"That's the problem with people"

Zeus

09-21-2013, 08:13 PM

"That's the problem with people"

The only applies to you if you look at mythics like a stock. Honestly, they were going to go down eventually! Is this really that unexpected?

moot

09-21-2013, 09:12 PM

[QUOTE=Soundlesskill;1274019]Hard earned.. They're barely 2m NOW/QUOTE]

Please refrain from saying I have problems, or anyone else has problems.

lols. I guess you're bored now.

Wutzgood

09-21-2013, 10:04 PM

So does the rogue's mythic daggers. It has +12 damage over the mythic bow. If you like a staff I would say get the mythic staff but for me I much prefer a gun. I made this video demonstrating what is possible when using a gun:

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?112903-Solution-to-fix-the-issue-of-rogues-being-OP-in-PvE&p=1258635&viewfull=1#post1258635

I suggest someone try doing the same thing using a staff. It will be a lot harder because you have to be stationary to fire your staff. This is something I went through in season 4 when the nordr jewel was the best damage weapon before they released the mythic gun. In elites where the goal is boss fights, in my opinion its harder to fight elite bosses with a staff. Because you tend to move around a lot more and if you are stationary for too long you become a target. Having both you could switch between the staff and gun as needed. But for me if I am going to have a staff, I will save & buy the arcane staff and not waste 10m gold on something that will be not the best next season, as we have seen with the gun. People need to use some rationale judgement and if they did the prices on these items would drop considerably.

You don't have to be stationary to use a staff. I run and blast mine and it hits 3 opponents instead of one. Doesnt matter if facing or behind me. Personally I prefer a staff because it drops mobs faster. And I know damage is more important (I have 4 attack skills) but the difference in how fast mobs die is noticeable between a staff and gun. To each his own though.

Frohnatur

09-21-2013, 10:33 PM

Oh i like it the way it is.
Anybody wants to sell me a mythic gun? Right now I have 1,5 mil. I'll farm some more, but if anybody is rich enough and wants to get rid of his gun... Here is your guy!

chitgoks

09-21-2013, 11:05 PM

i guess those who sold guns before this update were lucky and those who bought it got a
screwed

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chitgoks

09-21-2013, 11:06 PM

You don't have to be stationary to use a staff. I run and blast mine and it hits 3 opponents instead of one. Doesnt matter if facing or behind me. Personally I prefer a staff because it drops mobs faster. And I know damage is more important (I have 4 attack skills) but the difference in how fast mobs die is noticeable between a staff and gun. To each his own though.

i gave up on staff because it does not fire behind. i have to face them up front.
gun though... can be fired any direction and mage can circle around an enemy to get a hit

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Vjerevica

09-22-2013, 07:19 PM

The biggest Problem is......

There are so much Mythic/Arcane geared People that its pointless for Legendary equipt People try to PvP....

Straight to target.

I think this issue even deserves separate thread. I've used to be lot in PVP but it so pointless now. It's not that I care about k/d ratio at all, but it is just not fun. Really, people without myths hardly have a chance at all. I don't intend to go through "pain" of merching, saving, farming, etc. for months to buy high end gear because it really makes no sense from my perspective. I just want game to be joy, not hard working slavery . I have real life and steel some time every day for AL.

Here is my proposal. Separate PvP to Elite and Common. In Common no myth, arcane gear would be alowed. Make separate leader board for Elite. In my eyes it would please everyone. Hardcore players will have their own battlefield where they wil fight best of the best. Anyway, I don't believe they enjoy victories over underpowered oponents. They will have their separate playground free of noobs, underpowered, unexperienced, etc. Winners of this will be acknowlidged as best of the best by everyone. On the other hand, common players will have their own playgound where they can compete thus making the game interesting for them as well. Even better, elite players can check their skills in common arena allso (and prove primarly to themselves that they really are the best based on skills and not only because of gear).

Ebezaanec

09-22-2013, 07:24 PM

Here is my proposal. Separate PvP to Elite and Common. In Common no myth, arcane gear would be alowed. Make separate leader board for Elite. In my eyes it would please everyone. Hardcore players will have their own battlefield where they wil fight best of the best. Anyway, I don't believe they enjoy victories over underpowered oponents. They will have their separate playground free of noobs, underpowered, unexperienced, etc. Winners of this will be acknowlidged as best of the best by everyone. On the other hand, common players will have their own playgound where they can compete thus making the game interesting for them as well. Even better, elite players can check their skills in common arena allso (and prove primarly to themselves that they really are the best based on skills and not only because of gear).

You make it seem as if mythic players are vastly numerous. Why should players who work hard for mythic gear be "punished" by being secluded to only a limited amount of players.

Besides... What about players with only a couple of mythics? Do they have to be stuck with people with full mythics too? Even I have an Epic ring in my set.

No offense, but the idea seems very unfair imo.

Vjerevica

09-22-2013, 08:34 PM

It is just general proposal. I am aware that it should be developed further.

Why punished? Do you think that duel with equaly geard players is punishment? On the contrary, I think it is reward. They will have a chance to play on highest level without disturbance of inferior players. Look at it as AL Champins League. Those "limited amount of players" are in fact the ones they really want to duel. Is there any glory if you win the race with Ferrarri over VW Polo? Would you be appretiated as great driver?

In all competitons there are ranks; 1st legue, 2nd legue, etc.

Somehow you agree with me to a certain point since you think that people who are not full myth would be stuck with full mythics meaning that they will have a lesser chance because of gear.

This proposal should be dveloped and elaborated better. The way I see it I would always want to compete within my rank. If I am Real Madrid, surely I don't want to be champion of national village football league. I want to win Champions league.

Well, I don't expect that players will agree with me. I was just commenting post from my perspective. No harm done.

But seriously, I would really like feedback from elite players. Wouldn't they love to have their own league?

waric11

09-22-2013, 11:50 PM

im just hoping that mythic weapon and armor can be bought to store by means of platinum..and if this happen this time fir sure a lot of player will buy your platinum arcane legends

Psykopathic28

09-23-2013, 12:14 AM

Straight to target.

I think this issue even deserves separate thread. I've used to be lot in PVP but it so pointless now. It's not that I care about k/d ratio at all, but it is just not fun. Really, people without myths hardly have a chance at all. I don't intend to go through "pain" of merching, saving, farming, etc. for months to buy high end gear because it really makes no sense from my perspective. I just want game to be joy, not hard working slavery . I have real life and steel some time every day for AL.

Here is my proposal. Separate PvP to Elite and Common. In Common no myth, arcane gear would be alowed. Make separate leader board for Elite. In my eyes it would please everyone. Hardcore players will have their own battlefield where they wil fight best of the best. Anyway, I don't believe they enjoy victories over underpowered oponents. They will have their separate playground free of noobs, underpowered, unexperienced, etc. Winners of this will be acknowlidged as best of the best by everyone. On the other hand, common players will have their own playgound where they can compete thus making the game interesting for them as well. Even better, elite players can check their skills in common arena allso (and prove primarly to themselves that they really are the best based on skills and not only because of gear).

There's already a separate place for noobs to roam. It's called twinks. Go make a lvl 10 or sumtin silly and go pvp.

moogle8494

09-23-2013, 03:10 AM

KingMartin

09-23-2013, 03:21 AM

The answer is gameplay improvement.

I got my mythic sword when it was still 5m, but now its is border-lining only 1m. I don't complain because during that time, I completed numerous Elite runs, increased my PVE count, and helped many members of my guild. That is how I determine if an item has value. The long-term investment I made by buying it... payed off over time.

Amen. That is exactly the reason why I coughed out 12M for Razorbacks on Saturday and sacrificed my arcane pet dreams :)

People still think that when they buy a new car and start the engine, it will keep value no matter what happens in the market :)

Don't you buy a car even when you know that in couple of years it will be worth almost nothing? But, did not you have fun for your money in the meantime?

KingMartin

09-23-2013, 03:27 AM

There's already a separate place for noobs to roam.

So, players who have no mythics are noobs?

sheesh :stupid:

Joncheese

09-23-2013, 06:55 AM

Amen. That is exactly the reason why I coughed out 12M for Razorbacks on Saturday and sacrificed my arcane pet dreams :)

People still think that when they buy a new car and start the engine, it will keep value no matter what happens in the market :)

Don't you buy a car even when you know that in couple of years it will be worth almost nothing? But, did not you have fun for your money in the meantime?

Nail on the head Queen!

What everyone is forgetting is that without these constant updates and changes this game would be pretty boring. STS try to make the game appealing for the casual gamer and for the hard core end gamer. Without either this game would be a washout and we wouldnt be playing at all. What happened to a challenge? I welcome these mythics, and i welcome everything i have to earn in this game..... its what makes it as good as it is.

Funny thing is that what people dont realise is that if they spent less time whining and more time actually playing, they would already be on their way to getting what they want. Yesterday i FARMED 3 million worth of Gold, again FARMED. This is possible for everyone, and its all about the amount of effort you put in.

Most importantly of all though 'gear' does not depict how good a player you are. Some of the best players i know aren't full mythic, and they use standard gear. Alrisaia is an excellent example, he ran most of last season with Legendary gear and an Epic ring (i think) and was one of the best players in the game. Skill will ALWAYS conquer over gear.

Bottom line is, stop whining and embrace the change, cos it isnt going anywhere :)

Deadroth

09-23-2013, 08:00 AM

Nail on the head Queen!

What everyone is forgetting is that without these constant updates and changes this game would be pretty boring. STS try to make the game appealing for the casual gamer and for the hard core end gamer. Without either this game would be a washout and we wouldnt be playing at all. What happened to a challenge? I welcome these mythics, and i welcome everything i have to earn in this game..... its what makes it as good as it is.

Funny thing is that what people dont realise is that if they spent less time whining and more time actually playing, they would already be on their way to getting what they want. Yesterday i FARMED 3 million worth of Gold, again FARMED. This is possible for everyone, and its all about the amount of effort you put in.

Most importantly of all though 'gear' does not depict how good a player you are. Some of the best players i know aren't full mythic, and they use standard gear. Alrisaia is an excellent example, he ran most of last season with Legendary gear and an Epic ring (i think) and was one of the best players in the game. Skill will ALWAYS conquer over gear.

Bottom line is, stop whining and embrace the change, cos it isnt going anywhere :)

Ehh Buddy.. It is possible.. But You have huge advance from elixs, great gear AND experience! :) Not anyone have all in one Friend :)

But yes. Everyone can farm, if You will ask "when?", i will answer "change Your time for complains into time of farm" :)
Even 300 k a day can be 3 m in 10 days <- Here is mythic armor :) ect.

Also. Expirence can be contrweight of gear. There r UP elders and OP noobs XD But the best player is OP elder..

"Don't worry, beee happy"

PS. Also. Linkin had a bit of right in makin this thread, the 'first mythic weaps' should be slightly buffed, to be compared to 'second myth weaps'... This is Dev decision
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Emmacheese

09-23-2013, 09:10 AM

Wahhhhh I just got an iPhone 5 and now the iPhone 5c is out! Should I contact apple? .... Just sayin :watermelon:

Emmacheese

09-23-2013, 09:13 AM

:encouragement:

But yes. Everyone can farm, if You will ask "when?", i will answer "change Your time for complains into time of farm" :)
Even 300 k a day can be 3 m in 10 days <- Here is mythic
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Joncheese

09-23-2013, 09:19 AM

Ehh Buddy.. It is possible.. But You have huge advance from elixs, great gear AND experience! :) Not anyone have all in one Friend :)

But yes. Everyone can farm, if You will ask "when?", i will answer "change Your time for complains into time of farm" :)
Even 300 k a day can be 3 m in 10 days <- Here is mythic armor :) ect.

Also. Expirence can be contrweight of gear. There r UP elders and OP noobs XD But the best player is OP elder..

"Don't worry, beee happy"

PS. Also. Linkin had a bit of right in makin this thread, the 'first mythic weaps' should be slightly buffed, to be compared to 'second myth weaps'... This is Dev decision
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Mate i couldnt be happier i assure you :) was merely pointing out that the game needs to expand to keep people interested. I also realise that experience counts for alot, and i am still a complete noob lol. Just saying that people should adapt and overcome :)

Embrace the change and make yourselves better! :D

Deadroth

09-23-2013, 09:24 AM

Mate i couldnt be happier i assure you :) was merely pointing out that the game needs to expand to keep people interested. I also realise that experience counts for alot, and i am still a complete noob lol. Just saying that people should adapt and overcome :)

Embrace the change and make yourselves better! :D

Aww :) I am 'unbotic' glad cause of that, i have two awesome Friends to change mood of forumers into better :)

As You said Jon, game need to expand, add new stuff, expansion, to attract more pepole. This was, is and will be one of main targets of our Devs. But if someone need somethin which will last for super long time i suggest to buy arcane pet. It is really worthy investition.

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