Find the mistake :)

[Chickenrunnn]

Hey there !

Here is a (very) easy enigma :p Find out the problem xD

We firstly fix :
X=1 and by definition, X = X (Don't tell me you don't understand ._.)
<=> X² = X² (square)
<=> X² - X² = X² - X² (subtract X²)
<=> X(X - X) = (X + X)(X - X) (Factorize, Note that a²-a²=a(a-a), and that a²-b²=(a+b)(a-b))
<=> X = X + X (Simplify)
<=> X = 2 X (addition)
<=> 1 = 2 (because X = 1)

1=2 ?? OMGG .____.

If you can't find the reason why it is buggy, click on the spoiler :)



The problem comes from those 2 lines :
<=> X(X - X) = (X + X)(X - X) (Factorize)
<=> X = X + X (Simplify)

Indeed, you simplify dividing by (X-X), which is equal to zero, which is IMPOSSIBLE :D
:banana:


Hehe :p
Hope you liked x)

Cya people :)

[Schnitzel]

null
What IS ALL THAT ALIEN LANGUAGE?!?
this better not be someone's math homework...

[Suentous PO]

I think the mistake was posting this.


Hey there !

Here is a (very) easy enigma :p Find out the problem xD

We firstly fix :
X=1 and by definition, X = X (Don't tell me you don't understand ._.)
<=> X² = X² (square)
<=> X² - X² = X² - X² (subtract X²)
<=> X(X - X) = (X + X)(X - X) (Factorize, Note that a²-a²=a(a-a), and that a²-b²=(a+b)(a-b))
<=> X = X + X (Simplify)
<=> X = 2 X (addition)
<=> 1 = 2 (because X = 1)

1=2 ?? OMGG .____.

If you can't find the reason why it is buggy, click on the spoiler :)



The problem comes from those 2 lines :
<=> X(X - X) = (X + X)(X - X) (Factorize)
<=> X = X + X (Simplify)

Indeed, you simplify dividing by (X-X), which is equal to zero, which is IMPOSSIBLE :D
:banana:


Hehe :p
Hope you liked x)

Cya people :)

[Slcinuup]

If I see this right X+X doesnt simplify to X (unless X was 0)

[dudetus]

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[Noodleleg]

I don't know if X (X - X) = (X + X) (X - X) o_O?

Because one side is x2 - x 2 while the other is 2x...

[ultimaga95]

I missed the first line but i got the second line right. The only way you can get 2X I think is by doing X*X, not X+X. Right?

[DocDoBig]

Nubs, come back when you play with three-dimensional vectors and integral calculation.

^This is what Docs have OF COURSE to know .

[asimauara]

X=1 not 2 thats where the mistake is

[Delphina]

Ok I was lost after:
X=1 and by definition, X = X .......

[Revealing]

I was lost after hey I'm like wth lemme tell teacher this

[Chickenrunnn]

I think the mistake was posting this.

You got it right :)


I don't know if X (X - X) = (X + X) (X - X) o_O?

Because one side is x2 - x 2 while the other is 2x...

Why not? :O

take x=2, it makes
2(2-2) = 0
and
(2+2)(2-2) =0
so 2(2-2)=(2+2)(2-2) ._.

Do it with a and b if you prefer

a²-a²=a(a-a) (a is factorized) = (a*a)-(a*a) (developed) = a²-a² so a²-a²=a(a-a)
a²-b²=(a+b)(a-b) (that's a rules, you can develop it to be sure of it)
so you have
a(a-a) = (a+a)(a-a) so X (X - X) = (X + X) (X - X)



I missed the first line but i got the second line right.

The first line :O..

X=X.. it's as if you were saying 10000=10000 (it's an useless line:))

In addition, you just state that X=1.


The only way you can get 2X I think is by doing X*X, not X+X. Right?

Eh, X*X = X² and X+X = 2X :)
Take X=4
4*4 = 4²=16 and 4+4=8 which isn't 16 :)


Nubs, come back when you play with three-dimensional vectors and integral calculation.

^This is what Docs have OF COURSE to know .

Oh.. Integrals and three-dimensional vectors .. Old days :(.. I just didn't think anyone would understand integrals on forums lul




Ok I was lost after:
X=1 and by definition, X = X .......

oww :love_heart:
I'll give you some maths lessons if you want :love_heart: :o



X=1 not 2 thats where the mistake is

This "demonstration" shows you why dividing by 0 is impossible : it would make incoherences such as 1=2
At the end, you get X=2X, and you stated that X=1 so basically, 1=2x1=2, which is impossible :)

[Zaonabiuibil]

<=> X(X - X) = (X + X)(X - X) (Factorize, Note that a²-a²=a(a-a), and that a²-b²=(a+b)(a-b))




You could show (X+X)(X-X), which gets X^2+X^2-X^2-X^2=0

And so X(X-X)=0, which you can check by first solving in the parenthesis, X-X=0. Then X(0)=0, so 0=0 which means that the incorrect portion is the X(X-X)=(X+)(X-X) in which it just ends there, there are no 1s or 2s.


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[Chickenrunnn]

the incorrect portion is the X(X-X)=((X+)(X-X) in which it just ends there, there are no 1s or 2s.



I don't understand what you mean :O

Oh you forgot an X

X(X-X)=((X+X)(X-X)

Well, It isn't incorrect o.O

take x=2, it makes
2(2-2) = 0
and
(2+2)(2-2) =0
so 2(2-2)=(2+2)(2-2)

You can write it, even if it isn't usual.. It is true :)

10000000*0 = 3402334302994029042*0 = 0*0 = 1*0 ._.

[Zaonabiuibil]

I don't understand what you mean :O

Oh you forgot an X

X(X-X)=((X+X)(X-X)

Well, It isn't incorrect o.O

take x=2, it makes
2(2-2) = 0
and
(2+2)(2-2) =0
so 2(2-2)=(2+2)(2-2)

You can write it, even if it isn't usual.. It is true :)

10000000*0 = 3402334302994029042*0 = 0*0 = 1*0 ._.

My bad on the X, was typing quickly.

And if you can say that, X doesn't equal 2, it equals all real numbers.


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[Noodleleg]

I see what I did wrong. (x+x) (x-x) is 2x timessss 0. My brain shut down and thought there was a + in the middle of the two. (x-x) gives 0 and 2x x 0 = 0.

[Schnitzel]

I got lost after line1

[Spyce]

What kind of Math is this?!

[tarlan]

What kind of Math is this?!

ikr idiots trying to mix letter with numbers its like putting a tuna in the sahara

[Caiahar]

My braim hurts.

[Noodleleg]

You guys should try parametric equations ._.

[Chickenrunnn]

ikr idiots trying to mix letter with numbers its like putting a tuna in the sahara

Do you even know what is the point of solving an equation? Finding value of a letter in a particular situation.

Next time you call someone idiot, think about your own words :) Thanks.



My bad on the X, was typing quickly.

And if you can say that, X doesn't equal 2, it equals all real numbers.



You can state that a letter will take the value 1 if you wish.. You could do the same with X=3 but then, at the end, it would do 3=6, which would be as wrong as 1=2 :stupid:



You guys should try parametric equations ._.

Easy noodle, easy :)
Try to make some differential equations :p
And try to find the "e" value :p

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/3/8/f/38fb8017ef7ace1d7831efa4546a5791.png

Right now, I'm working on this :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/f/9/b/f9b99d69c1c403a4f25f7e04c3d949a4.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/9/a/b/9ab255ba8d0832b011c1a770e2937904.png

Sounds cool, doesn't it ? :p

[Noodleleg]

Do you even know what is the point of solving an equation? Finding value of a letter in a particular situation.

Next time you call someone idiot, think about your own words :) Thanks.




You can state that a letter will take the value 1 if you wish.. You could do the same with X=3 but then, at the end, it would do 3=6, which would be as wrong as 1=2 :stupid:




Easy noodle, easy :)
Try to make some differential equations :p
And try to find the "e" value :p

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/3/8/f/38fb8017ef7ace1d7831efa4546a5791.png

Right now, I'm working on this :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/f/9/b/f9b99d69c1c403a4f25f7e04c3d949a4.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/9/a/b/9ab255ba8d0832b011c1a770e2937904.png

Sounds cool, doesn't it ? :p

Arc Cosine? Lel, I yooz "2d" grafeeng rite nao. I've seen some of my friends on their computers graphing the stuff you're doing lol :P

[Revealing]

Noodle noodle what don't you understand chick is too smart he's smarter than my maf teacher

[Zaonabiuibil]

You can state that a letter will take the value 1 if you wish.. You could do the same with X=3 but then, at the end, it would do 3=6, which would be as wrong as 1=2 :stupid:



actually no, it'd still end up with 0=0. As you said before, if 2(2-2)=(2+2)(2-2), (2+2)(2-2)= 4(0)= 0, and 2(2-2)=2(0)=0, so 0=0 making the x be equal to any number, there is no 1=2, or any variation of the such. Just 0=0.


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[lorosandi]

Im so confuseed + im just 10 and tryed it lol

[End]

We firstly fix :
X=1 and by definition, X = X (Don't tell me you don't understand ._.)
<=> X² = X² (square)
<=> X² - X² = X² - X² (subtract X²)
<=> X(X - X) = (X + X)(X - X) (Factorize, Note that a²-a²=a(a-a), and that a²-b²=(a+b)(a-b))
<=> X = X + X (Simplify)
<=> X = 2 X (addition)
<=> 1 = 2 (because X = 1)

1=2 ??

So hard to explain >.<
Limitations stuff like dat
One of my fav tricks :)

I wont killjoy

[End]

Its very hard to explain to someone who hasnt done maths a level :)
@lorosandi

[Chickenrunnn]

actually no, it'd still end up with 0=0. As you said before, if 2(2-2)=(2+2)(2-2), (2+2)(2-2)= 4(0)= 0, and 2(2-2)=2(0)=0, so 0=0


You stated at start that X=1, and at the end, you get X=2X, if you replace X by 1, you get 1=2..


making the x be equal to any number,

About that, yeah.. that is the reason why dividing by 0 bugs it all :) it gives crazy stuff.


there is no 1=2, or any variation of the such.

You just said aboce that "x can be equal to any number", in another word, X=X could give 1=2 or 455=42422424.. x).. x would be equal to any number.. and any number would be equal to any number :stupid:

[Zaonabiuibil]

You stated at start that X=1, and at the end, you get X=2X, if you replace X by 1, you get 1=2..



About that, yeah.. that is the reason why dividing by 0 bugs it all :) it gives crazy stuff.



You just said aboce that "x can be equal to any number", in another word, X=X could give 1=2 or 455=42422424.. x).. x would be equal to any number.. and any number would be equal to any number :stupid:

X equals any number, but it has to be the same in the equation so that you get the equations to be equal, that means when you start X could equal 1, 2, -1000000 and the equation would work, you took it out of context and incorrectly used the x equals.


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[Chickenrunnn]

X equals any number, but it has to be the same in the equation so that you get the equations to be equal, that means when you start X could equal 1, 2, -1000000 and the equation would work, you took it out of context and incorrectly used the x equals.


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Out of context? :O
In another post you mean? :O

[tarlan]

Do you even know what is the point of solving an equation? Finding value of a letter in a particular situation.

Next time you call someone idiot, think about your own words :) Thanks.

If you find a letter in equation you just take it out cuz it doesnt belong, if thats the point for u, i would guess you are just a editor for math books

[Chickenrunnn]

If you find a letter in equation you just take it out cuz it doesnt belong, if thats the point for u, i would guess you are just a editor for math books

The point of an equation is (most of the time) to find an expression/a value of an unknown letter.

Example :

3x^2 - 4x +1 = 0
x1 = 1/3 x2 = 1

Here you have an example of an equation, with a letter. :)

[Revealing]

Say yolo to you chick who is not hawt

[tarlan]

The point of an equation is (most of the time) to find an expression/a value of an unknown letter.

Example :

3x^2 - 4x +1 = 0
x1 = 1/3 x2 = 1

Here you have an example of an equation, with a letter. :)

x means times so is that even math

[IronMonkey]

Your cool with math and equations, brilliant. Can you help me? I have some real-life math problems, I know that what we are currently doing is wrong and its bugging me. So here are the facts:

1. These are involved: A = Zonal values, B = Fair market values, and C = Selling price. Among the 3 choices, we need to pick the highest to determine the Z.
2. To get Z, all you have to do is multiply 6% x (the highest number among A,B and C).

Here is the real-life problem I encounter:

The above statements involves the computation of the capital gains tax (Z). To get Z, as said previously, I need to choose the highest amount among A, B, and C. and then multiply it by 6%. In capital gains tax, the seller of the property is the one liable to pay the tax since he gained profit from the sale. Now, if the buyer is stating on the document that he'll pay the tax (Z) instead of the seller, we need to add Z to the selling price. We add because, the buyer will now pay more, instead of paying only the Selling price (C), he needs to pay Z as well. So Z becomes part of the selling price.

Question: How do I determine Z?

Can you please give me the formula? Much appreciated if you can help me solve this problem.

[MightyMicah]

Edited...

I need to brush up on my algebra xD

[Chickenrunnn]

x means times so is that even math

x is a letter there. on the internet, "times" in maths is written *



Your cool with math and equations, brilliant. Can you help me? I have some real-life math problems, I know that what we are currently doing is wrong and its bugging me. So here are the facts:

1. These are involved: A = Zonal values, B = Fair market values, and C = Selling price. Among the 3 choices, we need to pick the highest to determine the Z.
2. To get Z, all you have to do is multiply 6% x (the highest number among A,B and C).

Here is the real-life problem I encounter:

The above statements involves the computation of the capital gains tax (Z). To get Z, as said previously, I need to choose the highest amount among A, B, and C. and then multiply it by 6%. In capital gains tax, the seller of the property is the one liable to pay the tax since he gained profit from the sale. Now, if the buyer is stating on the document that he'll pay the tax (Z) instead of the seller, we need to add Z to the selling price. We add because, the buyer will now pay more, instead of paying only the Selling price (C), he needs to pay Z as well. So Z becomes part of the selling price.

Question: How do I determine Z?

Can you please give me the formula? Much appreciated if you can help me solve this problem.

As for this problem, i'm not american, so I'm not 100% sure I fully understood the sentences ;) (Zonal values is the range of prices?) and Z is the tax the seller has got to pay once he sells the stuff?

However, I could do those stuff :

If the seller is clever, he will try to get profit from its sales, so that,
Z=(6%)C because he will sell at his selling price (C); which is higher than B (which is the market price which is under C if he wants to make profit)

If the buyer has got to pay the tax (Z), he will have to pay (Tax+selling price): Z+C=C+(6%)C= (106%)C (106% of the price the seller wanted to sell the stuff for), the seller will get (C-B)$, since he bought the stuff for B$ and sells C$ and the rest will go as a tax.

106%C-Z=C so the seller should get ((106%C-Z)-B)$ profit, and the buyer pays (106%C) and get the item :)

Should be this :) Nevertheless, I didn't implement A to esuations so I don't think it is ok :/.. I don't know what "zonal values" mean so..

[Extreme]

Gawd what math is this O_o..

[Trenton]

Gawd what math is this O_o.. asianology

[IronMonkey]

x is a letter there. on the internet, "times" in maths is written *




As for this problem, i'm not american, so I'm not 100% sure I fully understood the sentences ;) (Zonal values is the range of prices?) and Z is the tax the seller has got to pay once he sells the stuff?

However, I could do those stuff :

If the seller is clever, he will try to get profit from its sales, so that,
Z=(6%)C because he will sell at his selling price (C); which is higher than B (which is the market price which is under C if he wants to make profit)

If the buyer has got to pay the tax (Z), he will have to pay (Tax+selling price): Z+C=C+(6%)C= (106%)C (106% of the price the seller wanted to sell the stuff for), the seller will get (C-B)$, since he bought the stuff for B$ and sells C$ and the rest will go as a tax.

106%C-Z=C so the seller should get ((106%C-Z)-B)$ profit, and the buyer pays (106%C) and get the item :)

Should be this :) Nevertheless, I didn't implement A to esuations so I don't think it is ok :/.. I don't know what "zonal values" mean so..

I'll make it simple, supposing:

A: 1,000,000.00
B. 750,000.00
C. 950,000.00

Scenario A

If Seller pays the tax (Z), the equation is Z = 6% x A, remember we only need to get the highest amount among the A, B, and C. This is easy.

Scenario B

If Buyers pays the tax (Z), I don't know the equation, but Z needs to be added to C to get a new selling price. How do I get Z and what is the equation?

[Chickenrunnn]

I'll make it simple, supposing:

A: 1,000,000.00
B. 750,000.00
C. 950,000.00

Scenario A

If Seller pays the tax (Z), the equation is Z = 6% x A, remember we only need to get the highest amount among the A, B, and C. This is easy.


The seller pays the price he bought the stuff for (Idk if there is a letter for this) + Z (tax) = [Price he bought item first] + 6% A

The buyer pays the price the seller asked for, without any taxes. That is A? or C? You said C was the selling price in the first post



Scenario B

If Buyers pays the tax (Z), I don't know the equation, but Z needs to be added to C to get a new selling price. How do I get Z and what is the equation?

Above, you found that Z = 6%x(highest price), in your example, A is the biggest price
So normally, the buyer should pay :

C+Z, where Z = 6%*(highest price of A/B/C)
In ur example, it should be
(950,000+ (6%x100,000)), since he pays the stuff price (C), and we add the tax of the biggest value between A, B or C

As a conclusion, the buyer will have to pay
C+Z = C+ (6%(A)) if the zonal price is the highest
C+Z = C+ (6%(B)) if the fair market ptice is the highest
C+Z = C+ (6%(C)) if the selling price is the highest

The seller will earn :
(Price he bought stuff for) - C

The tax will be
Z=(6%(A)) if the zonal price is the highest
Z=(6%(B)) if the fair market ptice is the highest
Z=(6%(C)) if the selling price is the highest

Since the seller wants to make profit, C>B so the 2nd shouldn't be possible.
As for the 1st one with A, idk what is zonal price :)

[Sariita]

Omg I leave Math for school, amd my brain hurts :(

[Arlorgoddess]

dividing x and x is impossible..

[Zaonabiuibil]

dividing x and x is impossible..

False, X/X=1


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[DocDoBig]

That moment when you discuss a math problem in the offtopic section of the forums for phone games for over 5 weeks.

[Pvpandctf]

Shhhh.

[SayCreed]

ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Caiahar]

That moment when you discuss a math problem in the offtopic section of the forums for phone games for over 5 weeks.
And even when the game moderators are involved in it too xD