nerfing and nerf complaints

[miistic]

guys stop complaining about op items at certain lvls.
say you are lv15 and lv20 rhinos keep rushing you either make a rhino or
just make your own game and kick them out or just join lv10-14 games lol besides lv20 rhinos arent super op
they loose against mages fairly easy and lv20 bear can beat them too ...... just lvl your bear to lv20.....
they are many options just dont complain it ruins other ppl who spent plat or bought certain items for alot of gold and spent time on those so called op builds. some may say bears or mages are op at that lv. before plat packs rhinos sucked anyways
also on the dmg nerf with birds, birds still can be good maybe not low lvl but good at high lvl
dont complain about everything you think is op just deal with it cuz there are so many ways lol.

sorry if my grammer is bad

[Pvpandctf]

Make a rhino!

Kill em!

[miistic]

Make a rhino!

Kill em!

ikr lol

[programmed]

guys stop complaining about op items at certain lvls.
say you are lv15 and lv20 rhinos keep rushing you either make a rhino or
just make your own game and kick them out or just join lv10-14 games lol besides lv20 rhinos arent super op
they loose against mages fairly easy and lv20 bear can beat them too ...... just lvl your bear to lv20.....
they are many options just dont complain it ruins other ppl who spent plat or bought for alot of gold certain items and spent time on those so called op builds
also on the dmg nerf with birds and the forgotten bow nerf, fbow is still powerful and birds still can be good maybe not low lvl but good at high lvl
dont complain about everything you think is op just deal with it cuz there are so many ways lol.

sorry if my grammer is bad

Actually 20 rhinos are op. and what you said about fbows, they are better at low levels than the higher ones. The higher you go up in levels the less damage forg has compared to other weapons of the same level. Also it's not the fbows nerf that made bird not as good, as much as the buffs nerf


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[miistic]

some ppl love rhinos dont break the bond

[miistic]

i wasnt connecting fbow with birds sorry

[miistic]

i dont know much about the fbow nerf lol

[miistic]

Actually 20 rhinos are op. and what you said about fbows, they are better at low levels than the higher ones. The higher you go up in levels the less damage forg has compared to other weapons of the same level. Also it's not the fbows nerf that made bird not as good, as much as the buffs nerf


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so are mages at that lv and bears....... so you could say everything is op if they beat you with it..........

[dudetus]

Quadruple post!

U sir need some excercise in proper foruming.

[miistic]

Quadruple post!

U sir need some excercise in proper foruming.

i do lol but as long as ppl get the point....

[Roberto077]

What's the point in 5 classes if only 1 is used? That's why we want balance.

[miistic]

not only 1 class is used mage is used alot and can beat rhino easy
not to mention bear

[miistic]

besides before ppl used plat packs rhinos sucked

[programmed]

besides before ppl used plat packs rhinos sucked

No, before ppl used plat packs rhinos didn't exist yet


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[miistic]

i saw a lot of rhinos with fbows back then without plat packs..... i think your mistaken

[Suentous PO]

Another way to think of it;
Instead of saying complaining about the stat imbalance ruins it for people who use it, you could think that the people who used that imbalance might have ruined others experience.
I think the rhino deserves some higher stats, and imbalanced gear should be brought in line with its contemporaries.

[Heroelite]

guys stop complaining about op items at certain lvls.
say you are lv15 and lv20 rhinos keep rushing you either make a rhino or
just make your own game and kick them out or just join lv10-14 games lol besides lv20 rhinos arent super op
they loose against mages fairly easy and lv20 bear can beat them too ...... just lvl your bear to lv20.....
they are many options just dont complain it ruins other ppl who spent plat or bought certain items for alot of gold and spent time on those so called op builds. some may say bears or mages are op at that lv. before plat packs rhinos sucked anyways
also on the dmg nerf with birds, birds still can be good maybe not low lvl but good at high lvl
dont complain about everything you think is op just deal with it cuz there are so many ways lol.

sorry if my grammer is bad
My assumptions were correct. Everyone who is disagreeing in a nerf for the strength plat packs is a user themselves. They rely on the gear and realize that not much skill is necessary to beat "skilled" and experienced players. So the thought of a nerf brings them fear that they will actually have to improve their skills. If everyone uses your reasoning then the only class will be strength rhinos. And what's this about getting rushed or losing to strength plat packs? Haha no. Some of my friends and I enjoy the challenge. We don't use op gear, we stick to the classic weps. (talons, toymans, xbows, etc) Like I said since most str plat pack users rely on their gear, they are quite clueless when faced with strategy. And if I go strength I'd rather put on my old pickaxe, vyx, and ironrock then wear that over powered junk.
Please do not say that rhinos cannot compete without strength plat pack. You are just agreeing then that the gear is overpowered. I know a rhino or two who are dex/int around my level and actually took time to learn the class and uses strategy rather than being clueless and relying on gear.

[miistic]

did you read everything? didnt i say that bears and mages can kill rhinos fairly easy? if everyone uses my reasoning they wont all use rhinos........
rhino isnt super op its just they are higher lvl than you

[Heroelite]

did you read everything? didnt i say that bears and mages can kill rhinos fairly easy? if everyone uses my reasoning they wont all use rhinos........
rhino isnt super op its just they are higher lvl than you
I agree. rhino is not super op, the gear is which is why it requires a nerf.

[Caiahar]

@mistic: First of all, rhino is my fav class, but I hate how they join 15-18 games.
Second, I made a 21 rhino soon after they were release, and I used a reaper, earth/onyx/crys (cant remembet which) armor and helm, with bone shield, and it was fun, decent, but wasnt OP. Nowadays many 20 rhinos just go farm lower lvls with a cocky attitude.

[Cheenivie]

No point in booting when they can come back the next game and you lose host "powers"

[miistic]

No point in booting when they can come back the next game and you lose host "powers"

you can remake lol

oh btw im not a lv20 rhino user myself my bro is though
and yes rhino needs to have better stats but probably plat packs and such need nerfing

[Caiahar]

you can remake lol

oh btw im not a lv20 rhino user myself my bro is though
and yes rhino needs to have better stats but probably plat packs and such need nerfing

Seriously? It takes too much time for those who actually want to pvp.
Make game, type in /boot _____ (person), repeat to other higher lvls.
Game ends, you only got to fight a few times.
Now you have to remake all over again.


All for one, and one for all.

[Cheenivie]

Remake after every game and fill up the game lobby nty..

[Kixxler]

guys stop complaining about op items at certain lvls.
say you are lv15 and lv20 rhinos keep rushing you either make a rhino or
just make your own game and kick them out or just join lv10-14 games lol besides lv20 rhinos arent super op
they loose against mages fairly easy and lv20 bear can beat them too ...... just lvl your bear to lv20.....
they are many options just dont complain it ruins other ppl who spent plat or bought certain items for alot of gold and spent time on those so called op builds. some may say bears or mages are op at that lv. before plat packs rhinos sucked anyways
also on the dmg nerf with birds, birds still can be good maybe not low lvl but good at high lvl
dont complain about everything you think is op just deal with it cuz there are so many ways lol.

sorry if my grammer is bad

Not only is your grammar bad, but your reasoning is pretty crappy too.

[miistic]

Not only is your grammar bad, but your reasoning is pretty crappy too.

First of all, at the time i was very tired. Second, my reasoning is not bad... I have no idea how you think my reasoning is bad.
If you cant understand "don't complain" because there are many options for the situation, please don't post negative comments.
Granted i don't know much about the bird nerf, but i do know a whole lot on the rhino situation.

Im off this thread.

[Chopper]

I dont understand why any single build/item/shield/class etc that gives the slightest advantage in one are is always considered to be "overpowered".

As i said before, is the goal so that every single player must choose between exactly the same stock characters so that every person is identical in playing PvP? Do you really want to play a game which makes you choose to be "blue" mage versus "red" mage, clones of each other?

[Suentous PO]

I dont understand why any single build/item/shield/class etc that gives the slightest advantage in one are is always considered to be "overpowered".

I wouldn't call it a slight advantage,

The armor and damage on these sets are crazy. For example, the level twenty rhino 3 pack's war-hammer damage is: 140-175 1.3 speed. That is 5 damage higher than the level THIRTY iceberg 2h and 10 levels lower.

Seems 5 levels difference is what they've deemed a fair fight when they designed pvp.

[Heroelite]

I dont understand why any single build/item/shield/class etc that gives the slightest advantage in one are is always considered to be "overpowered".

As i said before, is the goal so that every single player must choose between exactly the same stock characters so that every person is identical in playing PvP? Do you really want to play a game which makes you choose to be "blue" mage versus "red" mage, clones of each other?
Funny you should say that because this is exactly what is happening. Plat pack bears, rhinos, foxes, and mages are running rampant in lower levels. Every game there is a good chance you will see at least 3 players wearing one of these.