Change RIFT gear

[Rashkar]

Hey, im a serious tank bear player. currently wearing full rift. The only issue is mana regen. All other classes at endgame can continually spam skills essentially without losing any mana. Basically it makes no sense for there to even be tanks with all of the birds being able to tank like 85% as well and do about 400% the damage. Hell, even i myself am considering switchign to void + blaster in order to compete without having to spam mana pots till the cows come home.

PLEASE at least add a little bit of mana regen, you can take away anything else you like from the rift gear to compensate....

[Arterra]

got to admit regen is LOW... though a bird with meditation should handle it with only a few less pots. (soon to dual-wield, booyah!)

[CryoBlade]

I can handle the low regeneration. I get the money back from the loot :D

[smoae]

1. If you want some m/s, try replacing your shield with a thoth buckler level 45. You'll have a loss of 12 armor but if you do thoth plate it's a loss of 15 armor and if you do helmet it's a loss of 20.

2. Warriors actually due have a significant amount more of health and armor then birds. Warrior attributes increase health, and they start out with 50 more health in the first place. Their gear also has more armor than dex gear. Warrior's also have a great buff spell (iron blood) that increases armor by 50. Warriors are designed for taking damage and protecting archers and mages, who are doing the most dps and best spells in the back.

[Arterra]

1. If you want some m/s, try replacing your shield with a thoth buckler level 45. You'll have a loss of 12 armor but if you do thoth plate it's a loss of 15 armor and if you do helmet it's a loss of 20.

I was wondering what I would replace... helmet was first choice, but seemed like a lot.

[smoae]

I was wondering what I would replace... helmet was first choice, but seemed like a lot.

Yes surprisingly the level 45 thoth buckler has less of an armor sacrifice than the level 50 armor and helmet. Another option is to use Level 50 thoth plasma sword, but these are very rare and expensive, and you don't get to use the cool new ao3 weapons.

[Arterra]

Yes surprisingly the level 45 thoth buckler has less of an armor sacrifice than the level 50 armor and helmet. Another option is to use Level 50 thoth plasma sword, but these are very rare and expensive, and you don't get to use the cool new ao3 weapons.

plus the fact that they do little damage i think...

i think i might have gotten ripped off mine, if its that good... :'(

[ArrowofLegend]

I use a lot mana pot on my tank, but the junks i received from killing stuff covers most of the expense. Tank would need more armor, so replacing rife for Thoth shield might not be a wise idea. But hey, ppl choice their own play style

[Lesrider]

The problem is that the ao3 shields look a lot cooler than the ao2 shields. I don't like how either ao3 helm looks on the bear, but I really like the Thoth helm, so that's what I've stuck to.

It's pretty silly that we have to do this, though. I remember how excited I was when all my characters hit the 40s and could wear Isis/Thoth and cut down drastically on health/mana pots. And then to get to 50 and have to sacrifice stronger armor just to save on pots? It just doesn't make sense. Especially since bears have no other way than their equip to increase ms. Birds at least have meditation if they're running low on mp. So why is it that bears got the short end of the stick here and have to use ao2 items to compensate while the birds and mages can wear full ao3 and only gain from it?

[Arterra]

Yet again Dex is the stat with few to no problems. Cosmos has all the regen needed but low armor, while rift is hard as diamond but has no regen.

[Ellyidol]

Yet again Dex is the stat with few to no problems. Cosmos has all the regen needed but low armor, while rift is hard as diamond but has no regen.

Agree. Void is the best set right now, it adds survivability through dodge, damage is from dex already, and enough m/s. Cosmos would have been pretty good for mage too, except its really just an m/s armor for me, not even enough to be called armor. Catch aggro once, your as good as dead.

[Lesrider]

But alfreda (lol auto correct -- I mean Alterra!) as far as I know there's no reason for a mage to wear ao2 items Vs ao3. Am I wrong? Yes, it might be weaker than the void/rift as far as armor, but at least cosmos is better than the ao2 items. (my mage is squishy and I rary play it anymore -- so I'm by no means saying mages are in great shape right now. I just think the rift situation is absolutely ridiculous.).

[Ellyidol]

But alfreda (lol auto correct -- I mean Alterra!) as far as I know there's no reason for a mage to wear ao2 items Vs ao3. Am I wrong? Yes, it might be weaker than the void/rift as far as armor, but at least cosmos is better than the ao2 items. (my mage is squishy and I rary play it anymore -- so I'm by no means saying mages are in great shape right now. I just think the rift situation is absolutely ridiculous.).

Yeah, there shouldn't be a reason for a mage to wear Ao2 gear except for i) budget problems, and if a mage wants to stay as a pally as much as he can, so he uses thoths.

Don't get me wrong, rift is really good, pally's with rifts are good mages to have around, that is if you don't mind the constant pot chugging :P

[Conradin]

Stop complaining and a make a frigging intear

[Lesrider]

I still don't understand the benefits of an intbear...

[Conradin]

More health than a Mage, plus acts as mor eof a tank, I hqve. Lvl 47 one right now, u love it.

[Lesrider]

But bears don't need as much int as a Mage. They just need about 6 pointe of ms. Mages' magic costs a lot more mp than a bear's. I really don't understand what a bear would gain by having more int and being forced to wear a robe instead of proper armor.

[gwippy]

Don't change rift gear if any change cosmos reason for this;

Wraith Armor of the Void Req: Level 50, 158 Dex 11 Dex, 8% Dodge, 2% Crit, 1 H/s, 5 M/s, 73 Armor
11+8+2+1+5+73=100 points
Mirage Robe of the Cosmos Req: Level 50, 158 Int 11 Int, 2% Crit, 3 H/s, 8 M/s, 67 Armor
11+2+3+8+67=91 points
Power Armor of the Rift Req: Level 50, 158 Str 11 Str, 8% Crit, 2 H/s, 87 Armor
11+8+2+87=108 points

Quit complaining

[Lesrider]

Gwippy, how bout playing a lvl 50 bear first? Or any lvl 50 class? Have you even played ao3 yet? You don't think communication is needed in this game and you like commenting on things you've yet to even experience.

This is a valid complaint we have so don't shoot it down until you've actually tried it yourself.

[gwippy]

lol its as valid statement as it gets don't like don't play the game

[Raxie]

isis and thoth were just stupid when they got released...
6 m/s or 6 h/s per piece? just wear one thoth piece along with your rift gear. however, i think h/s is more important than armour.

[Rashkar]

Don't change rift gear if any change cosmos reason for this;

Wraith Armor of the Void Req: Level 50, 158 Dex 11 Dex, 8% Dodge, 2% Crit, 1 H/s, 5 M/s, 73 Armor
11+8+2+1+5+73=100 points
Mirage Robe of the Cosmos Req: Level 50, 158 Int 11 Int, 2% Crit, 3 H/s, 8 M/s, 67 Armor
11+2+3+8+67=91 points
Power Armor of the Rift Req: Level 50, 158 Str 11 Str, 8% Crit, 2 H/s, 87 Armor
11+8+2+87=108 points

Quit complaining

This doesn't even make sense... Ur comparing apples to oranges. I'd trade all the stats on rift other than the armor for some effing mp regen. Pots have become too important in this game.... Especially for a tank. They should give mages some better healing options.... Skill trees maybe? But that's a whole new can of worms

[Ellyidol]

Hey guys. I've added this suggestion thread to my new upgrading suggestion : http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?12385-Revive-Consolidated-Upgrading-Suggestion

Hopefully you guys would like the idea and support it. Thanks!

[Lesrider]

This doesn't even make sense... Ur comparing apples to oranges. I'd trade all the stats on rift other than the armor for some effing mp regen. Pots have become too important in this game.... Especially for a tank. They should give mages some better healing options.... Skill trees maybe? But that's a whole new can of worms

Yes, thank you!

[Rashkar]

Just add some effing mana regen, and the world will be right once again..... While ur at it buff up Cosmos so that mages dont die in 1 hit. This is pretty much all that is needed in order for both ursans and elves to be usefull in both the pvp/pve world. It gets even more ridiculous when you consider that in order to beat overlord (the boss who drops all the expensive gear) you NEED one of these overpowered and overgeared birds, They have far too much and the other classes have far too little.

In fact, if you compare a tank bird and a tank ursan, the differences would be that the bird has an MP regen skill while the ursan doesnt, which gives them far more capabilities when they wear the gear INTENDED for bears.... On top of this, they have the ability to tank just as well as an ursan and they are actually useful on tanking the last boss because they can remove his shield...

Something needs to be done....

[smoae]

Another thing to think about is to just use spells efficently. Non-buff spells are only really needed on bosses. Iron Blood and Evade are essential, but all the other ones are only nessessities during boss fights.

[Rashkar]

This is a stupid fix. Neither of the other classes are forced to manage their skills in order to save cash on pots. The entire reason for mana regen on gear is to prevent pot spamming, the other classes have no issues, why should bears. And it's not even bears in general it's rift gear that is the problem. I'm assuming it was overlooked or the devs didn't realize that tanks need mp regen.

The way it is rift gear is inferior to void for the sole reason for the lack of mp regen, look at all of the geared bears, nearly all wear full void in ao3 instead of rift. This indicates a problem to me, hell even half of the mages I see are wearing void as well instead of their intended set.

Rift needs more mp regen and cosmos needs to be buffed in some way as well... Either that or nerf void to be in line with the other end sets. Anyone who disagrees is probably wearing full void and wants to stay op