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Solid
11-09-2013, 01:49 PM
sss is just terrible...

Soundlesskill
11-09-2013, 03:19 PM
How about a suggestion for what to replace it with instead? .-.

Ravager
11-10-2013, 12:43 AM
Rally cry for rogues. Maybe its better on rogues because it sucks on warriors.

Soundlesskill
11-10-2013, 08:35 AM
Rally cry for rogues. Maybe its better on rogues because it sucks on warriors.

Yeah, but it'd be op for rouges.

Ravager
11-10-2013, 11:58 AM
I dont think so. Youd have to give up one of your 4 skills which all have a god purpose at this point.

Soundlesskill
11-10-2013, 12:45 PM
I dont think so. Youd have to give up one of your 4 skills which all have a god purpose at this point.

Not if you have 5 skills and switch.

Ravager
11-10-2013, 11:07 PM
I dont think so. Youd have to give up one of your 4 skills which all have a god purpose at this point.

Not if you have 5 skills and switch.

Yea i know but which one are you going to use as the actives? Usually all 4 of the rogue skills are useful in their own way already.

Soundlesskill
11-11-2013, 01:21 AM
Yea i know but which one are you going to use as the actives? Usually all 4 of the rogue skills are useful in their own way already.

Nox, because nox is a killer vs curse anyways. Or piercer.

Solid
11-12-2013, 12:00 PM
How about a suggestion for what to replace it with instead? .-.

If only i had some imagination.

Maybe a health boosting skill?
increase in base health not like packs.

Venom
11-12-2013, 12:08 PM
SSS is the only good AOE skill on a rogue. Just because you find it terrible doesn't mean others do too.

GoodSyntax
11-12-2013, 02:38 PM
I would change it so that it affected all enemies in a 6m radius (uncap the maximum number of affected targets) and add a Damage-Over-Time or some kind of debuff component. As it stands currently, the damage (even fully upgraded) is weak and the upgrades aren't very good and definitely not worth the skill points.

I would definitely consider dropping one of my other skills if SSS did the same damage as Nox on the 6m radius (especially if I can group up mobs on a populated map like Undim Fields or Lost Mages Mine for maximum effect), and it offered a stackable 10% armor debuff, or a -50% Hit debuff, or an enfeeble type of 0% Crit debuff for 10 seconds. To me, uncapping the number of targets and a debuff upgrade is enough to make this skill worthwhile and enough incentive to drop Pierce or Veil.

Zuzeq
11-12-2013, 02:44 PM
Increase impact damage and add DoT or Stun....done.

Ravager
11-12-2013, 04:29 PM
I would change it so that it affected all enemies in a 6m radius (uncap the maximum number of affected targets) and add a Damage-Over-Time or some kind of debuff component. As it stands currently, the damage (even fully upgraded) is weak and the upgrades aren't very good and definitely not worth the skill points.

I would definitely consider dropping one of my other skills if SSS did the same damage as Nox on the 6m radius (especially if I can group up mobs on a populated map like Undim Fields or Lost Mages Mine for maximum effect), and it offered a stackable 10% armor debuff, or a -50% Hit debuff, or an enfeeble type of 0% Crit debuff for 10 seconds. To me, uncapping the number of targets and a debuff upgrade is enough to make this skill worthwhile and enough incentive to drop Pierce or Veil.

So youre requesting DOT and making it the same damage as nox?
I think the point should be improving it so that it is good in its own way and not mimmicing another skill. Or replacing it.

GoodSyntax
11-12-2013, 04:37 PM
I would prefer the debuff(s) more than the DoT though.

Plus, an uncapped limit on affected targets would be a huge boon to the usage of the skill.

Morholt
11-12-2013, 05:21 PM
Plus, an uncapped limit on affected targets would be a huge boon to the usage of the skill.Exactly what it needs. It has a HUGE graphic and only hits two targets?! Not just that, but it also does little damage & has a [relatively] long cool down.
Let it hit as many targets as the graphic touches and it's fixed.

Solid
11-12-2013, 05:27 PM
SSS is the only good AOE skill on a rogue. Just because you find it terrible doesn't mean others do too.

Noxious is the best AoE skill,

playa rogue,

mythic dagger autos do more dmg and aoe.

2 targets isnt technically considered "AOE"

Venom
11-12-2013, 05:30 PM
Noxious is the best AoE skill,

playa rogue,

mythic dagger autos do more dmg and aoe.

2 targets isnt technically considered "AOE"

Have you ever actually used sss? Hmm, 2 targets ehh.. Look at the range it covers, try it in tomb kr hauntlet n see how many enemies it hits. Gg.

Solid
11-12-2013, 06:31 PM
yeh accidently speced, hits like a common weapom.

Venom
11-13-2013, 08:40 AM
Here, below is a screenshot of the Area of Effect. It covers more area than a charged nox. The reason why its dmg is low is, it affects all mobs in that range. So basically you're doing a lot of dmg to one enemy with aim/nox and here you're doing lower dmg but to a lot of enemies in one shot.

Aziiii
11-13-2013, 10:58 AM
sss is actualy a good skill in pve...the aoe effect is gr8,try it, it's not for pvp obs, so why change it ?????463004631646318

Aziiii
11-13-2013, 11:35 AM
besides sss cooldown is like 5s? Oo

Zuzeq
11-13-2013, 12:01 PM
sss is actualy a good skill in pve...the aoe effect is gr8,try it, it's not for pvp obs, so why change it ?????463004631646318


Aziiii, you know a heart you...but I used it almost all the way through the Kraken release way back and its just not good for current elite content. (On lvl PvE mobs)

Aziiii
11-13-2013, 12:18 PM
youre right, i mostly use it for that splash damage when i solo maps, it depends when u use it

Zuzeq
11-13-2013, 12:40 PM
Oh bet Aziiii, normal maps/low lvl leet its boss. I still wish they bump the damage to compete w/ other skills.

inkredible
11-13-2013, 01:19 PM
youre right, i mostly use it for that splash damage when i solo maps, it depends when u use it

youre cute

Soundlesskill
11-14-2013, 01:22 AM
The only thing SSS is useful for is soloing camp or wt4 or those mines. Or soloing. Then you can actually SEE dmg output